Hi meekerdb 

Although a brilliant logician, Russell was far left (no doubt a
communist and so anti-christian).  His diatribe against Christianity
is a prime example. It's totally misinformed and mistaken.

Ethics is, at bottom, loving your neighbor as your self.

[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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From: meekerdb 
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Time: 2013-01-02, 18:21:27
Subject: Re: The evolution of good and evil

On 1/2/2013 2:24 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
That really has nothing to do with Evil though, except in sloppy reasoning. 
True Evil is about intentionally initiating social harm. Getting smallpox is 
not evil, it is just unfortunate. Giving someone blankets known to be infected 
with smallp

On the contrary it is sloppy ethics to confine 'evil' to intentional social 
harm.  First, it implies that socially bad is bad simpliciter, but values are 
ultimately personal values.  Second, it implies that as soon as we find a 
physical cause (he was drunk, he had YY chromosmes, his father beat him) for a 
behavior it's not longer evil.  But all behavior has a physical cause.  So I'm 
ok with just dropping the term 'evil' and just referring to good/bad for 
individuals and good/bad for society as derivative.  But I think it's a 
hangover from theodicy to refer to human actions as evil but not natural events 
- it's part of the idea that humans are apart from nature.

Ethics is, at bottom, the art of recommending to others the
self-sacrifice necessary to cooperate with ourselves.
      --- Bertrand Russell

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