On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  Hi meekerdb
>
> Although a brilliant logician, Russell was far left (no doubt a
> communist and so anti-christian).  His diatribe against Christianity
> is a prime example. It's totally misinformed and mistaken.
>
> Ethics is, at bottom, loving your neighbor as your self.
>

Well that's easy. I don't love or even particularly like myself.


>
>
> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] <rclo...@verizon.net]>
> 1/3/2013
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen
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> *Subject:* Re: The evolution of good and evil
>
>  On 1/2/2013 2:24 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> That really has nothing to do with Evil though, except in sloppy
> reasoning. True Evil is about intentionally initiating social harm. Getting
> smallpox is not evil, it is just unfortunate. Giving someone blankets known
> to be infected with smallp
>
>
> On the contrary it is sloppy ethics to confine 'evil' to intentional
> social harm.  First, it implies that socially bad is bad simpliciter, but
> values are ultimately personal values.  Second, it implies that as soon as
> we find a physical cause (he was drunk, he had YY chromosmes, his father
> beat him) for a behavior it's not longer evil.  But all behavior has a
> physical cause.  So I'm ok with just dropping the term 'evil' and just
> referring to good/bad for individuals and good/bad for society as
> derivative.  But I think it's a hangover from theodicy to refer to human
> actions as evil but not natural events - it's part of the idea that humans
> are apart from nature.
>
> Brent
> Ethics is, at bottom, the art of recommending to others the
> self-sacrifice necessary to cooperate with ourselves.
>       --- Bertrand Russell
>
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