2013/2/6 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>

>  On 2/6/2013 1:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>  On 06 Feb 2013, at 04:00, meekerdb wrote:
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>  On 2/5/2013 11:02 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:14:07 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013  PM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>  > Unpopular religions are denounced as cults.
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>> A religion is just a cult with good PR.
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> It's interesting. I would be curious to know whether every established
> religion intentionally sought legitimacy at some point,
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>
> What would that mean? Legal? Where there is official government
> recognition of religion (and probably tax breaks) the answer would be that
> they sought the recognition.  And all that you can consider 'established'
> have sought adherents.  But "legitimacy"??  I'm not sure how that world can
> be attached to "religion".
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>  In my country, that is the case. Religions have to be recognized by the
> government. If not they are classified as sect, and are forbidden (like
> scientology). It is awkward and arbitrary, but that's simply the case.
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> I'm curious.  How do they get recognized?  Do they  have to apply,
>

They have to apply. But contrary to what Bruno claims, sect are not
illegal, some sects can and have been declared illegal (as any group can
be). But for example, scientology is not illegal in Belgium (for now) but
they are often brought to justice by ex-member (for good reason I think).

Quentin


> or does the government have some standard (numbers?) by which they
> automatically get recognized?  Do they have to file some statement of
> doctrine/theology/dogma with the government so that it can be determined
> whether a group is a splinter sect or a different religion?  Is Mormonism
> recognized?
>
> Brent
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>  The result is that sect become secret societies, so it is even harder to
> get rid of them, or for adherent to ever been able to get out of the
> influence. It is a real social dramatic problem. Then corruption makes also
> some sect still developing, like notably scientology.
>
>  Bruno
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