On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 2:04:46 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 Telmo Menezes <[email protected] > <javascript:>>wrote: > > > I also believe that some isolated tribes assume everything is conscious. >> > > If they're right then that certainly solves the consciousness problem and > we can move on to solving the REALLY hard problem, figuring out why some > things behave intelligently. >
I don't know about the why, but this seems pretty promising for the how: http://www.insidescience.org/content/physicist-proposes-new-way-think-about-intelligence/987 "Wissner-Gross calls the concept at the center of the research "causal entropic forces." These forces are the motivation for intelligent behavior. They encourage a system to preserve as many future histories as possible. " No qualia required, just thermodynamic modeling. Craig > >> Any logical system must start with unproven axioms and the fewer and >> the simpler the better, and I can't think of a better axiom to start with >> than that one. >> >> > Why? All of current science works fine without it. Its only function is >> religious. >> > > But as I said before, I personally would not work fine if I thought I was > the only conscious being in the universe and I very much doubt that you > would either; unless of course you are not conscious now and never have > been. > > >> Do you know for sure that I am conscious? >>> >> >> > > No. >> > >> > >> For that matter all you know about me is the ASCII sequences I have >>> produced, so do you even know for sure that I'm not a computer? >>> >> >> > > No. >> > > EXCELLENT! Congratulations your views are consistent, and thus your doubts > about the consciousness of a intelligent computer must not be any greater > than your doubts about the consciousness of a intelligent human being. > > John K Clark > > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
