On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > You confuse the 3-view on the 1-views, >
For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of the earth who is confused by the difference between the first person and the third person. > Then you know in Helsinki that you will survive and feel to be in only > one city with probability one > That depends, Is "You" the Helsinki Man or the Moscow Man or the Washington Man or John K Clark? > (that will be felt as true for both copies' 1-views), > Then what are we arguing about? > and this introduces the 1-indeterminacy, > Did you really have to go through all this metaphysical gobbledegook to figure out that you never know for sure what you're going to see next and even if you did you can't know what you're going to say next until you say it? > as there will be two exclusive outcomes that you cannot live > simultaneously in the 1p-view. You are using the fact that they can live > them simultaneously in the 3p view, but the question concerns the 1p view. > See the confusion? > Let me ask you something, approximately how many "1p-views" do you think exist on planet Earth right now? I would estimate about 7 billion. > you make a systematic confusion between 1-views and 3-views For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of the earth who is confused by the difference between the first person and the third person. > > As Jason and Liz just showed yesterday, you keep oscillating between > "too much easy, Og already knows" and "wrong" > That's because your statements keep oscillating between trivial (but made to sound complicated) and wrong. > you make a systematic confusion between 1-views and 3-views > For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of the earth who is confused by the difference between the first person and the third person. > > Does adding a delay of reconstitution in Moscow change the possible > quantitative indeterminacy calculus? > The delay adds nothing to the thought experiment, just more pointless wheels within wheels. > you come up with a confusion between 1p and 3p view, > For several years now Bruno Marchal has accused John Clark of that, but John Clark would maintain that there is not a single person on the face of the earth who is confused by the difference between the first person and the third person. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
