On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:49 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 17 January 2014 13:43, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 6:42 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17 January 2014 13:34, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant that if the physics of the brain is computable it follows as a
>>>> straighforward deduction that it would *at least* be possible to make
>>>> a philosophical zombie. It is then a further argument to show that it
>>>> would not be a zombie but a conscious being.
>>>>
>>>> I don't see this. Why would it at least be possible to make a p-zombie?
>>> (And if you can show by a further argument that it's a conscious being,
>>> then clearly it *wasn't *a zombie...)
>>>
>>
>> I think he means that strong AI would be possible, and then strong AI +
>> comp -> conscious programs.
>>
>
> I think I see. Strong AI implies intelligent programmes, but not
> necessarily conscious ones. However I'm still not sure about philosophical
> zombies, which I believe mimic human beings completely without being
> conscious.
>
>
>
Right, so if you think there can be intelligent programs and you believe
zombies are impossible, then it implies computationalism.

Jason

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