On 1/17/2014 5:40 PM, LizR wrote:

    But apparently the brain has a lot to do with those computations in 
Platonia, c.f.
    anesthetic.  Notice that I'm not a disciple of Platonia.

Me neither, I am agnostic - but within comp it is assumed, so while discussing comp we have to assume it (unless we're rejecting comp on that basis). But I can see that Platonia makes sense in that 17 does seem to be prime idependently of you and me and everyone else, which is (I'm told) enough for the whole shebang to come into some sort of existence.

I don't think you have to buy the equivalence between (17 is prime) is true and (17 is prime) exists. In fact Bruno always says you only have to believe the first for his argument to succeed. But then he slips in the UD and it seems that every truth of arithmetic implies and existence. I think this is the same problem as step 8. If everything has to be simulated, then there's no difference between simulated and real. If I'm "really" existing in an infinity of world/simulations that are *just like this one up to now* - then they ARE this one (c.f. Leibniz).


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