Dear Russel,

  Can we detect self-modeling in our brains now? I have been doing some
research into Secure computation, trust me, my team is pretty sure that we
can make computations look like noise on the network.


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 02:48:53PM -0500, Stephen Paul King wrote:
> > Dare Jason,
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > So why can't zombies have intentions? Remember the only thing zombies
> > > supposedly lack is qualia. If a zombie is hungry and goes out to buy a
> > > burger, I would say it had an intention to fill its stomach.
> > >
> >
> > Intentions require self-models. Zombies by definition cannot have
> > self-models otherwise they would have first person experience. My point
> is
> > that I am claiming that self-models are, content-wise, the same as first
> > person experience. 1-p is, after all what we are considering that a
> zombie
> > does not have, so how can it have intentionality? It has no object to
> whom
> > the intention obtains, thus no intentionality.
>
> I don't see the obviousness in "Zombies by definition cannot have
> self-models otherwise they would have first person experience". The
> presence of a self model is something that is objectively verifiable,
> by albeit rather intrusive neurophysiological means. Your statement
> would entail a physical difference between a zombie and a non-zombie,
> whereas, conventionally a p-zombie is physically indistinguishable
> from the conscious person.
>
>
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