On 21 January 2014 17:51, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear LizR,
>
>   Did the notion of an Eigenform, as defined, make sense to you?
>
> Heinz performs the magic trick of convincing us that the familiar objects
> of our
> existence can be seen to be nothing more than tokens for the behaviors of
> the organism
> that apparently create stable forms. These stabilities persist, for that
> organism, as an
> observing system. This is not to deny an underlying reality that is the
> source of
> objects, but rather to emphasize the role of process, and the role of the
> organism in the
> production of a living map, a map that is so sensitive that map and
> territory are
> conjoined. Von Foerster’s (1981a-d) book and papers were instrumental in
> pioneering
> the field of second-order cybernetics.
> The notion of an eigenform is inextricably linked with second-order
> cybernetics.
> One starts on the road to such a concept as soon as one begins to consider
> a pattern of
> patterns, the form of form or the cybernetics of cybernetics. Such
> concepts appear to
> close around upon themselves, and at the same time they lead outward. They
> suggest
> the possibility of transcending the boundaries of a system from a locus
> that might have
> been within the system until the circular concept is called into being.
> But then the
> boundaries have turned inside out, and the inside is the outside.
> Forms are created from the concatenation of operations upon themselves and
> objects
> are not objects at all, but rather indications of processes. Upon
> encountering an object as
> such a form of creation, you are compelled to ask: How is that object
> created? How is it
> designed? What do I do to produce it? What is the network of productions?
> Where is the
> home of that object? In what context does it exist? How am I involved in
> its creation?
>
>
The above hints at some sort of sense - it isn't something I could (quite)
dismiss as postmodern nonsense, for example - but I think I can safely
answer your question - "no, please resubmit in plain English!"

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