> On 26 Jun 2014, at 8:07 am, David Nyman <da...@davidnyman.com> wrote: > > The principal assumption then is that all phenomena whatsoever can be reduced > without loss to some "primitive" (i.e. assumptively irreducible) basis, in > which process the higher levels are effectively eliminated. Equivalently, one > might say it's bottom-up all the way down. As an analogy, in the human > sphere, this would be the contention that all political or sociological > phenomena whatsoever can be reduced without loss to the behaviour and > relations of individual human beings (i.e. what Margaret Thatcher presumably > intended by "there's no such thing as society"). > > David
All political and sociological phenomena whatsoever CAN be reduced without loss to the behaviour and relations of individual human beings. In addition, when was Margaret Thatcher ever wrong about something? ;-) So you lose a few 'isms' in this view...sounds like a good idea to me. If Bruno is right the only thing that is real are persons who are essentially minds or computational relations anyway. Bruno is not saying there is no sunstrate or 'hypothese'. He's dropping continual heavy hints as to what it is. But, we just can't really describe that with a mind. The hammer cannot hit itself. Blame Gödel or someone... Kim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.