What is your definition of factual accuracy? Kindly explain with some examples. 

Samiya 

> On 01-Jul-2014, at 5:46 pm, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> I respect a possible god's creation more than thinking it somebody's job 
>>>>> to convert people. This makes god's magnificence, as you call it, very 
>>>>> small. I still have no idea of whether you see the blaspheme problem here 
>>>>> or not. PGC
>>>> 
>>>> We agree that it is blasphemy to attribute to God or make statements on 
>>>> God's behalf what God hasn't stated. However, we also consider it 
>>>> blasphemy to deny God or God's communication, pretending that God hasn't 
>>>> sent any message, when God has indeed provided guidance for humans.
>>> 
>>> I don't know this and I challenge you, the Quran, indeed anybody, to 
>>> provide convincing evidence.
>> 
>> Okay, challenge the Quran... read it and see if it answers you with 
>> convincing evidence.
>  
> But you have provided us with insights and the pleasure of some translations, 
> so I have been reading it, in an informal sense.
> 
> You made the claim about factual accuracy of Quran, therefore burden of proof 
> lies with you. I don't know how factually accurate the Quran is, nor do I 
> understand your particular interpretation of this.
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>>> Your claim in this regard, could be the very blasphemy you speak of.
>>>  
>>>> You seem to think that the Message is for a particular culture, I tell you 
>>>> its for all humanity from the Lord of the Worlds.
>>> 
>>> Cultures compete. War is our collective history.
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>> That's besides the point.  
> 
> Not if you care about factual accuracy of history: You are saying our 
> cultural differences have no influence on religion/holy books/their 
> interpretation?
> 
> If you consider this a fact... then why do people with cultural roots from 
> Western Europe tend to be Christian? Same question for other religions and 
> their regions.
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>>> If I grow up in Jewish or Christian background, this preselects me to be 
>>> more accessible to Jewish or Christian theology/books/interpretations than 
>>> to Quran. 
>>> 
>>> Ok, the Quran is for all culture; but then the Bible says the same. You 
>>> still avoid the question of "why the Quran above all other sacred books".
>> 
>> Because it is the last in the series of revelations: the final revelation, 
>> and because it has been protected from changes. We Muslims are required to 
>> believe in all revelations, not just the Quran. Its an article of faith. And 
>> also because the prior scriptures foretell the coming of Prophet Muhammad. 
> 
> Those are not factual or rational reasons to answer the question: Why this 
> book, and not others?
> 
> The book asserts a primary status. So why not ask this question?
> 
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>>> If this were a matter of personal religion, that would be private. But 
>>> since you want factual accuracy, and to tie scientific/rational approach to 
>>> Quran, the question is valid. Science, ability to doubt, question, and 
>>> strive for accuracy in facts and descriptions belongs to all of us, no 
>>> matter the religion.
>> 
>> Agree
> 
> That's refreshing to see. That you can intuit a place, where we can 
> talk/reason beyond religion and about it. PGC
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