Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for explaining! So, in principle, you are against any claims of factual accuracy from any person or religion, and therefore prejudiced against all scriptures? Given that I am convinced about the Quran being the truth from God, and you convinced that nobody can have anything from God, I don't see if there is a point in continuing this debate. Thanks for indulging me and letting me express my point of view. I pray that God blesses all those who earnestly seek with assured faith. Amen. Samiya
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> What is your definition of factual accuracy? Kindly explain with some >> examples. >> > > You posted on this list bringing up "factual accuracy" regarding the > Quran, if I remember correctly. This is why I posed the question in a > variety of ways. > > But if I were to answer this in a strong technical sense of some domain, I > might be making the same mistake, blasphemy or "crookedness" that I sense > in the quoted/translated passages we discuss. > > Perhaps it is part of things that we cannot prove to each other and > perhaps this means that faith in this point, requires that we wrestle with, > question, doubt this kind of phenomenon or problem, of which there seem to > be many, and never, in our present kind of form at least, become > comfortable with it. > > Following this kind of line, perhaps nobody can answer this for anybody > else, or not even for ourselves. Some people say "we are the answer"; but > this is a bit too easy for me, although I can relate to the thought. > > Sometimes this gives me vertigo or makes me feel empty, and at other times > I feel like the emptiness is just more space to fill with joy, fascination, > wonder, and negation of pain, that we can share; if we stay polite, honest, > maintain peace, stay alert, learn to reason with more distance, and > appropriacy, tame our bestiality to minimize harming creation, and lust for > control etc. > > This means distancing ourselves enough from our own strict theology and > learning from our inner self and creation more directly, which is > difficult, but the only way I can parse, that would stop us from calling > ourselves names, fighting, waging war to hide our insecurity. Our personal > theology gives us security but takes away what little control we may have. > Our insecurity and our fears however, is something we share across all > religions. Maybe we should question them more directly, rather than > reciting our "best verses", every time we can't find a good answer. > > You'll find many answers in many texts and some contributions on this > list. Whether they satisfy/convince you, or whether they can do so in > principle or not, is a different question. > > It is in any case a good constant question to wrestle with, learn from, > and read about for the theological search beyond and underneath the > strong/loud interpretation of strict confessional religion, cultural > programs, and authoritative misuse of science, religion, and history. It > points also to the question of the relation between theology/science, and > the question of possible abuse (e.g. prohibition). > > So you see, I can't really answer your question, but you said you could... > ;-) PGC > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
