On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
wrote:

> What is your definition of factual accuracy? Kindly explain with some
> examples.
>

You posted on this list bringing up "factual accuracy" regarding the Quran,
if I remember correctly. This is why I posed the question in a variety of
ways.

But if I were to answer this in a strong technical sense of some domain, I
might be making the same mistake, blasphemy or "crookedness" that I sense
in the quoted/translated passages we discuss.

Perhaps it is part of things that we cannot prove to each other and perhaps
this means that faith in this point, requires that we wrestle with,
question, doubt this kind of phenomenon or problem, of which there seem to
be many, and never, in our present kind of form at least, become
comfortable with it.

Following this kind of line, perhaps nobody can answer this for anybody
else, or not even for ourselves. Some people say "we are the answer"; but
this is a bit too easy for me, although I can relate to the thought.

Sometimes this gives me vertigo or makes me feel empty, and at other times
I feel like the emptiness is just more space to fill with joy, fascination,
wonder, and negation of pain, that we can share; if we stay polite, honest,
maintain peace, stay alert, learn to reason with more distance, and
appropriacy, tame our bestiality to minimize harming creation, and lust for
control etc.

This means distancing ourselves enough from our own strict theology and
learning from our inner self and creation more directly, which is
difficult, but the only way I can parse, that would stop us from calling
ourselves names, fighting, waging war to hide our insecurity. Our personal
theology gives us security but takes away what little control we may have.
Our insecurity and our fears however, is something we share across all
religions. Maybe we should question them more directly, rather than
reciting our "best verses", every time we can't find a good answer.

You'll find many answers in many texts and some contributions on this list.
Whether they satisfy/convince you, or whether they can do so in principle
or not, is a different question.

It is in any case a good constant question to wrestle with, learn from, and
read about for the theological search beyond and underneath the strong/loud
interpretation of strict confessional religion, cultural programs, and
authoritative misuse of science, religion, and history. It points also to
the question of the relation between theology/science, and the question of
possible abuse (e.g. prohibition).

So you see, I can't really answer your question, but you said you could...
;-) PGC

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