On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I respect a possible god's creation more than thinking it somebody's >>>> job to convert people. This makes god's magnificence, as you call it, very >>>> small. I still have no idea of whether you see the blaspheme problem here >>>> or not. PGC >>>> >>> >>> We agree that it is blasphemy to attribute to God or make statements on >>> God's behalf what God hasn't stated. However, we also consider it blasphemy >>> to deny God or God's communication, pretending that God hasn't sent any >>> message, when God has indeed provided guidance for humans. >>> >> >> I don't know this and I challenge you, the Quran, indeed anybody, to >> provide convincing evidence. >> > > Okay, challenge the Quran... read it and see if it answers you with > convincing evidence. > But you have provided us with insights and the pleasure of some translations, so I have been reading it, in an informal sense. You made the claim about factual accuracy of Quran, therefore burden of proof lies with you. I don't know how factually accurate the Quran is, nor do I understand your particular interpretation of this. > > >> Your claim in this regard, could be the very blasphemy you speak of. >> >> >>> You seem to think that the Message is for a particular culture, I tell >>> you its for all humanity from the Lord of the Worlds. >>> >> >> Cultures compete. War is our collective history. >> > > That's besides the point. > Not if you care about factual accuracy of history: You are saying our cultural differences have no influence on religion/holy books/their interpretation? If you consider this a fact... then why do people with cultural roots from Western Europe tend to be Christian? Same question for other religions and their regions. > >> If I grow up in Jewish or Christian background, this preselects me to be >> more accessible to Jewish or Christian theology/books/interpretations than >> to Quran. >> >> Ok, the Quran is for all culture; but then the Bible says the same. You >> still avoid the question of "why the Quran above all other sacred books". >> > > Because it is the last in the series of revelations: the final revelation, > and because it has been protected from changes. We Muslims are required to > believe in all revelations, not just the Quran. Its an article of faith. > And also because the prior scriptures foretell the coming of Prophet > Muhammad. > Those are not factual or rational reasons to answer the question: Why this book, and not others? The book asserts a primary status. So why not ask this question? > >> If this were a matter of personal religion, that would be private. But >> since you want factual accuracy, and to tie scientific/rational approach to >> Quran, the question is valid. Science, ability to doubt, question, and >> strive for accuracy in facts and descriptions belongs to all of us, no >> matter the religion. >> > > Agree > That's refreshing to see. That you can intuit a place, where we can talk/reason beyond religion and about it. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
