On 27 Feb 2015, at 12:56, Samiya Illias wrote:
Why don't you just call it One with a capital O
Because I use "One" for Plotinus first Hypostase. I use God, for the
general notion, used by most philosophers and comparative theologians.
Bruno
Samiya
On 27-Feb-2015, at 4:23 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
On 26 Feb 2015, at 21:52, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/26/2015 3:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Fro the greek, the existence of God is a quasi-triviality,
because God, by definition, is the reality that we search. Then
the real question is what is the nature of God? A person? A
physical thing? A mathematical thing? A first principle, etc.
The Greeks had many concepts of the basis of reality which were
not assumed to be gods, i.e. persons. Anaximander called it
"aperion". From Wikipedia:
"Greek philosophy entered a high level of abstraction, adopting
apeiron as the origin of all things, because it is completely
indefinite. This is a further transition from the previous
existing mythical way of thought to the new rational way of
thought which is the main characteristic of the archaic period
(8th-6th century BC)."
So I reiterate my objection that using "God" is not only
obfuscating your avowed meaning it is also wrong to say it's what
the Greeks meant by the basis of reality.
Yes, it is a key moment in the greek theology, where at the
beginning, God was considered as finite, and the infinite was
confused with the indefinite, and almost an insult. Later they make
the infinite (apeiron) into a possible attribute of the ONE, and
reserve the indefinite ofr the notion of bad, or matter.
If you don't like the term "God" I will use "Allah". The main point
about God is that it has no name, so *any* name is wrong. I did not
use God, except in a reply which has lead us to that infinite
useless vocabulary discussion. God is just the most common quasi-
name (pointer).
I made clear what I meant, and the important point is the coming
back to the scientific attitude in theology, which is typically
concerned with soul, afterlife, (re)incarnation, origin of
universe, transcendence, truth, non-nameable, etc. It is the ONE of
Parmenides and Plotinus, and it is not distinguishable from
arithmetical truth, in case we are machine.
BTW, sometimes ago, you suggested here to promote my work to
Templeton. How is that going?
Bruno
Brent
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