> On 28-Feb-2015, at 11:00 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> On 27 Feb 2015, at 12:56, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> Why don't you just call it One with a capital O > > > Because I use "One" for Plotinus first Hypostase. I use God, for the general > notion, used by most philosophers and comparative theologians.
God / Allah (The Deity) are terms used for a being worthy of worship (loving obedience). Does the One/God of Comp mean as such? From what I've gathered from your explanations, it simply points to an origin, not the Creator of the origin(s). Is that correct? Samiya > > Bruno > > > >> >> Samiya >> >>> On 27-Feb-2015, at 4:23 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 26 Feb 2015, at 21:52, meekerdb wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2/26/2015 3:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>>> Fro the greek, the existence of God is a quasi-triviality, because God, >>>>> by definition, is the reality that we search. Then the real question is >>>>> what is the nature of God? A person? A physical thing? A mathematical >>>>> thing? A first principle, etc. >>>> >>>> The Greeks had many concepts of the basis of reality which were not >>>> assumed to be gods, i.e. persons. Anaximander called it "aperion". From >>>> Wikipedia: >>>> >>>> "Greek philosophy entered a high level of abstraction, adopting apeiron as >>>> the origin of all things, because it is completely indefinite. This is a >>>> further transition from the previous existing mythical way of thought to >>>> the new rational way of thought which is the main characteristic of the >>>> archaic period (8th-6th century BC)." >>>> >>>> So I reiterate my objection that using "God" is not only obfuscating your >>>> avowed meaning it is also wrong to say it's what the Greeks meant by the >>>> basis of reality. >>> >>> >>> Yes, it is a key moment in the greek theology, where at the beginning, God >>> was considered as finite, and the infinite was confused with the >>> indefinite, and almost an insult. Later they make the infinite (apeiron) >>> into a possible attribute of the ONE, and reserve the indefinite ofr the >>> notion of bad, or matter. >>> >>> If you don't like the term "God" I will use "Allah". The main point about >>> God is that it has no name, so *any* name is wrong. I did not use God, >>> except in a reply which has lead us to that infinite useless vocabulary >>> discussion. God is just the most common quasi-name (pointer). >>> >>> I made clear what I meant, and the important point is the coming back to >>> the scientific attitude in theology, which is typically concerned with >>> soul, afterlife, (re)incarnation, origin of universe, transcendence, truth, >>> non-nameable, etc. It is the ONE of Parmenides and Plotinus, and it is not >>> distinguishable from arithmetical truth, in case we are machine. >>> >>> BTW, sometimes ago, you suggested here to promote my work to Templeton. How >>> is that going? >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
