On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > > there will be only one 1-view from any of the two 3-1 p view > Oh no, now we have the two 3-1 p view ! > 3-JC is refers to the bodies which in this case are in the two cities. > OK, or in non-peepee notation the objective actions of John Clark's body or bodies. > > > 3-1 refers to the subjecyive experience > In non-peepee notation the subjective experience. > > > of frst person view > That is redundant because the first person is the only type of subjective experience there is. > > > ascribed to both bodies, which is different from the 1p view lived by the > person attached to such bodies. > I have no idea what that means and think your peepee notation really sucks.. Ascribed by who? If it's the by a third person then the 3-1 view is just the 3 view, and if it's the first person then the 3-1 view is just the 1 view. > > > 1p are always single solitary > Are? I t should be "1p is always solitary" but I think the idea and not just the grammar is wrong. I can't prove it but I have a hunch that solipsism is untrue, so right now I think there are about 7.1 billion 1ps on planet earth and maybe more if animals are conscious and many probably are. > > > In the math translation, eventually, we get a meta-definition of the > 1p-you, more precise than "the one who remember . > Regardless of how advanced the mathematics precision is not achieved if the symbols used (like *the* 3-1you) don't mean anything. > > > if you agree it bifurcates > Of course I agree that the subjective experience bifurcates when looking along the timeline in one direction, and it unites when looking along the opposite direction. And that is why personal identity can only be defined by looking toward the past and not the future. > > a simple reasoning (that we have done many times) shows that you are > unable to predict the 1p outcomes of that bifurcation. > Not true the outcome is perfectly predictable. The guy who intercepts a photon from Moscow will turn into the guy who experiences Moscow and the guy who intercepts a photon from Washington will turn into the guy who experiences Washington. I honestly don't know what more needs to be predicted. >> >> I though you were the guy who kept saying that Everett's MWI was >> deterministic. > > > > > > In the 3p view, but for the 1p (and here 1p-plural) > > we have > [...] > > I REALLY don't understand your homemade peepee notation! You just said " 1p are always single solitary ". > > > What your computational theory of mind fails to predict is the outcome of > the result of pushing on the button from the first person perspective > That is gibberish. In looking toward the future in a world with person duplicating machines there is no such thing as *THE* the first person perspective; such a term is only meaningful in looking toward the past because things bifurcate going in one direction and converges going in the opposite direction. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
