I think you have conflated Bruno's post and mine.

On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 at 6:41 am, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ​> ​
>> The rat thinks, "I will get a reward if I go through this door". The
>> copies of the rat think, "great, I got the reward", or "no reward, I'm
>> disappointed,
>>
>
> ​
> Yes, the 2 copies saw different things when they opened their duplicating
> chamber doors  and so formed different memories and so will no longer be
> identical copies
> and so had different conscious experiences, assuming rats have conscious
> experiences .  In other words different things will have different
> conscious experiences. But where is the great mystery in that? Where is the
> indeterminacy?
>
>
> ​> ​
>> Yes. Only the actual private consciousness decides, the first person,
>>
>
> ​Which "*THE* ​
> first person
> ​"​
> ​ decides what the Helsinki man should have been told yesterday about what
> he was going to see today, the one in Washington ​or the one in Moscow?
>
> ​Let me ask a very important question that may clear this up. Are the
> following 2 questions equivalent?​
>
>
> 1) ​What will I see tomorrow?
> 2) Tomorrow what will the person who remembers being me right now see? ​
>
> If you think they are equivalent and if tomorrow 2 people remember being
> you today then it would be ridiculous to expect only one answer is correct
> just as it would be silly to expect that the equation X^2 =4 only has one
> solution.
>
> If you think they are not equivalent then please explain what the word "I"
> in the question means extrapolated into the future.
>
> ​> ​
>> The guy opens the door, and sees that he is in Washington (resp. Moscow).
>> He expected to be in a city asking that very question ..., and now, thanks
>> to the miraculous mechanist resurrection, he feels it
>>
>
> ​So what he ​expected to happen did happen. So where is the indeterminacy?
>
>
>> ​>​
>>  "Why am I the one in Washington (resp. Moscow)?".
>>
>
> ​I don't understand the question. The one and only thing that can turn the
> Helsinki man into the Washington man is the sight of Washington. Nothing
> else will do. And the pronoun "I" in the above refers to the Washington
> man. So why was it
> that the Washington man was the one who saw Washington? Because that's
> what "the Washington man" means. Becoming the Washington man didn't cause
> you to see Washington, seeing Washington caused you to become the
> Washington man.
> ​
> Until somebody saw Washington there was no Washington man.
> I don't know what else you want me to say.
>
> ​I don't know what you want me to predict that I haven't already predicted.
> ​
>
> ​> ​
>> We can prove: IF digital mechanism THEN there is that unpredictability
>>
>
> ​Nobody can predict it because knows what it is they're being asked to
> predict. Nobody knows what "it" is.
>
> John K Clark
>
>
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