On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 11/5/2018 8:54 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 6:56:42 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:40 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I agree with those scientists who that say something isn't truly >>> intelligent unless it is also conscious. >>> >> >> Then you have no way of knowing if any of your fellow human beings are >> "truly intelligent" because you have no way of knowing if they are >> conscious or not. And if you were outsmarted by something that was *NOT* >> "truly intelligent" should you feel better or worse that if you were >> outsmarted by something that was *WAS* "truly intelligent"? >> >> *> For something to be fully conscious, or self aware, it would want to >>> "live". It would not want to be "shut down". When Watson starts screaming, >>> "Don't turn me off!", then it might be conscious.* >>> >> >> Unlike winning at Jeopardy that would be trivially easy to program. >> >> John K Clark >> > > > > > I think I would feel better being outsmarted by an unconscious robot than > a conscious robot. > > > Because you know the conscious robot would have an internal model of the > world in which it knew it had outsmarted you and from which it would learn > and plan future actions...like selling you a time share. Which I think > gives some insight into what constitutes consciousness and why it is > inherent in high-level intelligence. > > Brent >
Actually I was thinking the conscious robot would *experience* a satisfaction that the sans-consciousness robot could not. (Think of how another conscious robot would feel.) - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
