On 11/5/2018 12:40 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:

On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:49:12 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:

    On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:22 PM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com
    <javascript:>> wrote:

        /> By "experience", philosophers (like Galen Strawson, Philip
        Goff) mean that which you have within yourself right now: the
        awareness that/[...]

    Awareness? But awareness is just another word for consciousness,
    so when you say "/It's that experience (not just information) that
    needs processing to produc/*/e consciousness/"*you're saying that
    to produce consciousness you must process consciousness. I don't
    find that very helpful.

        > I assume I can be outsmarted by Watson on Jeopardy!

    Then Watson't intelligence isn't very pseudo.

    John K Clark

I agree with those scientists who that say something isn't truly intelligent unless it is also conscious.

For something to be fully conscious, or self aware, it would want to "live". It would not want to be "shut down". When Watson starts screaming, "Don't turn me off!", then it might be conscious.

Why would being conscious entail not wanting to be turned off? Don't you go to sleep at night?

Out fundamental drives have been shaped by evolution, not by technology.  When Watson says, "I want a woman." that will be the time to worry.


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