> On 4 Nov 2018, at 23:18, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 9:45 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > It's that experience (not just information) that needs processing to > > produce consciousness. > > A experience is a memory and memory is information so experience processing > is information processing.
That is again the usual confusion first person 1p and third person 3p, or []p and []p & p. Only god (G*) knows that they are equivalent. The machine cannot know or believe that, except in the relative way, by betting on mechanism. Bruno > > > But I say there can be unconscious (pseudo-)intelligent robots made. > > Do you have any way of knowing if your fellow human beings are intelligent > or (pseudo-)intelligent? I don't even know what the term means, pseudo or > not something can either outsmart you or it can't. > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

