Re: *That “I” is indeed not Turing computable, but it is still explainable entirely in term of Turing machine. A lot of things about Turing machine is not computable, so that is not so astonishing.* I'm not sure I follow that (with respect to Ton-Turing computing), but here is where I think there could be progress: The late Turing scholar S. Barry Cooper: *The intuition is that computational unconventionality certainly entails higher-type computation, with a correspondingly enhanced respect for embodied information. There is some understanding of the algorithmic content of descriptions. But so far we have merely scratched the surface.** Here I would add *modal *to *higher-type*, and assert that *experience processing* is non-Turing (unconventional) computing [ and maybe develop this into a conference paper ]. * *What Makes a Computation Unconventional? or, there is no such thing as Non Turing Computation* S. Barry Cooper - https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/8c56/91dbcfd9751d4ef87135baf89ad5e64d83c2.pdf cf. *Incomputability In Nature* S. Barry Cooper - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2829873_Incomputability_In_Nature *To what extent is incomputability relevant to the material Universe? We look at ways in which this question might be answered, and the extent to which the theory of computability, which grew out of the work of Godel, Church, Kleene and Turing, can contribute to a clear resolution of the current confusion. It is hoped that the presentation will be accessible to the non-specialist reader.* - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.