On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
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> Le lun. 20 janv. 2020 à 22:56, Alan Grayson <[email protected] 
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>> On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:
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>>> On 1/20/2020 5:10 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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>>> I explained it several times. There's a singularity implied if it had a 
>>> start AND was infinite. If it's infinite, it never had a beginning or 
>>> start. AG 
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>>> Why isn't a singularity implied if it had a start and was *finite*?  
>>> That was exactly the standard argument for a supernatural 
>>> beginning...something (finite) from nothing was a violation of nature and 
>>> reason.  You seem to be stuck in Aristotelian philosophy. 
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>> It's not something from nothing. Nothing to do with Aristotle. It's 
>> something from the Multiverse!
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> What multiverse ?
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> If time starts at the big bang what does it means it's from the 
> multiverse... Is the multiverse a singularity ? Why not ?
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The Multiverse is the substratum from which it emerged. I'm probably 
applying the theory of eternal inflation here. We don't have any 
information about this entity. It might not even have space and time as one 
of its defining properties, or it might be infinite in space and time. But 
it is distinct from OUR universe, which emerged from it. AG

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> No singularity if finite in spatial extent because an infinity not implied 
>> by an eruption of something small from something arbitrarily large. Of 
>> course, I have no idea why the eruption occurs. AG 
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>> Physicist tend to use mathematics to cover a domain up to the point it 
>>> produces an infinity or infinitesimal and then just look at that as the end 
>>> of applicability...not a point to start drawing inferences from what 
>>> "infinity" implies.
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>> Maybe they need to go to China and study at a "re-education" camp? AG 
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>>> Brent
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