Le lun. 20 janv. 2020 à 23:14, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-7, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> >> Le lun. 20 janv. 2020 à 22:56, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 2:00:36 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/20/2020 5:10 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>> >>>> I explained it several times. There's a singularity implied if it had a >>>> start AND was infinite. If it's infinite, it never had a beginning or >>>> start. AG >>>> >>>> >>>> Why isn't a singularity implied if it had a start and was *finite*? >>>> That was exactly the standard argument for a supernatural >>>> beginning...something (finite) from nothing was a violation of nature and >>>> reason. You seem to be stuck in Aristotelian philosophy. >>>> >>> >>> >>> It's not something from nothing. Nothing to do with Aristotle. It's >>> something from the Multiverse! >>> >> >> >> What multiverse ? >> >> If time starts at the big bang what does it means it's from the >> multiverse... Is the multiverse a singularity ? Why not ? >> > > The Multiverse is the substratum from which it emerged. I'm probably > applying the theory of eternal inflation here. We don't have any > information about this entity. It might not even have space and time as one > of its defining properties, or it might be infinite in space and time. But > it is distinct from OUR universe, which emerged from it. AG > And why must it be a finite part of this supposed substratum and not an infinite partition of it who is the starting point of OUR universe ? What is the substratum of the multiverse ? And what is the substratum of that substratum ? And what.... ? > >> No singularity if finite in spatial extent because an infinity not >>> implied by an eruption of something small from something arbitrarily large. >>> Of course, I have no idea why the eruption occurs. AG >>> >>> Physicist tend to use mathematics to cover a domain up to the point it >>>> produces an infinity or infinitesimal and then just look at that as the end >>>> of applicability...not a point to start drawing inferences from what >>>> "infinity" implies. >>>> >>> >>> Maybe they need to go to China and study at a "re-education" camp? AG >>> >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/468aba84-4115-4af7-967b-289569d088f3%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/468aba84-4115-4af7-967b-289569d088f3%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ff776341-4a86-4a50-85ba-d8f12b39b5da%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ff776341-4a86-4a50-85ba-d8f12b39b5da%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kApNNmjYJV3GJDhAaUcBdFxw%2BepjCQL-P_iDi4rT-doLoA%40mail.gmail.com.
