--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > > <richardhughes103@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > > > > > > So, it is possible, and I find I often know what someone else > > is > > > > > thinking. But there are literally millions of TMers. You > > can't > > > > > have done enough of a study to determine what percentage of > > them > > > > > are getting it. a > > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, I don't think many are left, at least compared to > the > > > > numbers that started. > > > > > > > > It's pretty easy to spot some of the more prevalent > > meditational > > > > issues (like falling asleep), esp. if you're a domer. It's only > > > more > > > > recently we've actually had number of TM-sidhi people being > > > > investigated by experienced yogins for meditational disorders > > and > > > > damage. The reports I've heard are that it's a prevalent > problem > > > in > > > > long-term TM-sidhi people, as it tends to cause imbalanced > > > awakenings > > > > and a host of issues. How prevalent? It's hard to say. > > > > > > > > > > Vaj, can you enlarge on this a bit. Who is this "we" doing the > > > investigating? > > > > > > I ask because I'm really not sure if the TMSP is doing me any > good > > > anymore, I don't like doing long progs either, I used to but now > > it > > > makes me feel shite, really thick-headed, tired and angry, > nothing > > > easy or relaxing about it. > > > > > > It's easy to just go along with the TMO claims about unstressing > > but > > > I've been losing confidence in the whole TM charade for a while > > now, > > > maybe that's the cause of it, if you don't believe in the > > supporting > > > philosophy perhaps you lose the ability (or will) to transcend. > > > > > Speaking from personal experience, what TM and especially the more > > powerful TMSP does, is continue to set up the bodymind or nervous > > system (choose your term...) to experience enlightenment. After > > awhile, the bodymind becomes so attuned to experiencing this that > it > > is almost ready to sustain it. But, the false identity and the > > couldas, wouldas, and shouldas keep wanting to intrude and get into > > strong conflict with this natural state. > > > > So if you want to give yourself a break and perhaps integrate into > > activity a little more, lay off the siddhis altogether, and just do > > TM 2x a day-- maybe some regular exercise too, just to keep the > > runaway intellect from trying to always intercede and control > > things. It will balance you out and perhaps give you a little bit > > more insight into where your attention needs to be for your > personal > > issues to be resolved. > > > > Thanks for the advice Jim I know what your saying, but I'm not sure > my intellect is trying to control anyhting when I meditate. It feels > like the state of consciousness I get into is putting to much strain > on me, it's not that "I" strain it's just like my mind doesn't want > to be there at all! It's mentally and physically unpleasant. You are > right though I shall give the sids a miss for a bit, I'd pretty much > done that anyway.
Sounds like it could just be too much meditation at this point and not enough integration-- My experience was as I progressed, TM and TMSP became incredibly efficient and powerful. Like you are doing anyway, just lay off the TMSP for awhile, or permanently if you want to. *Get into your body more*. > > I wonder how many stop TM because of things like this. I think Vaj is > right in that this awakening can go wrong and there is no expertise > in the TMO to help you cope with it, not that I've ever heard of > anyway, it's just "do more asanas" usually. > Where there is a will, there is a way.
