--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis wrote: > > You gotta love it! > > > The proof that you were never on the program lies in the > fact that you thought you were on a program. There's no > such thing as TM, Curtis - that's just a silly acronym, > made up to communicate between dilettantes. > > In reality, there is no path, no gate to go through, and > no meditation technique at all. Everyone meditates because > the meditation simply means to "think things over",
You must be aware that you are using what MMY refers to as contemplation in place of his understanding of meditation? and > hardly a person could be found that doesn't think and > pause once or twice a day to take stock of their own > mental contents. > > And we are all transcending, even without a technique. > So why do I need a spiritual master? > What gets me is that people get so dissociated into a > state in which some part of a person's life becomes > separated from the rest of their personality making it > seem to function independently. They even begin to think > that they are "teachers of TM". I was a teacher of TM. I taught people how to do TM. My action was not my identity, but it was part of my reality. > > Then they often think that they've stopped meditating, > ergo, stopped thinking. Obviously you haven't done that. > But, how could you tell the truth all that time when you > were a teacher of TM, when you were brainwashed from > birth? It's just impossible. Well I agree that we accumulate a lot of beliefs unconsciously by growing up in a culture, teaching TM does involve a bit of conscious choice to make the practice seem more scientific than it actually is. It is a traditional practice marketed as a scientific one which involves a bit of misdirection. > > I'm taking control. Are you? Sure to the degree that I can become conscious of unconscious processes and beliefs. > > "A very concise introduction to the BITE model as it > applies to newsgroups with a view to developing a > preliminary model for a twelve-step recovery plan." > I am not seeking recovery from anything. Unlike some who left TM I didn't feel as though it damaged me. I felt like it made me function in a way that I no longer value. But I will check out the link. OK, Steve Hassan's work, I am familiar with it, read his book and talked with him on the phone. His book was the first step for me to recognize that there were other ways to explain what I was experiencing in TM then the traditional model. It rocked my world. When I first left TM I used to assist in exit counseling cases for people who had lost their ability to understand that their involvement in a group was interfering with their ability to support themselves in society. Steve and Pat Ryan were pioneers in helping create ways to help restore choice for people whose lives have become unmanageable. Although it is a work in progress, they have taken Lifton and Singer's insights and made them useful in the context of exit counseling. I spent a fair amount of time with Pat Ryan and consider him to be brilliant and sincere in his desire to help people whose lives are not working and whose families are in much pain. > Read more: > > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental > From: Willytex > Date: Sun, Apr 22 2001 10:34 pm > Subject: Reality BITE > http://tinyurl.com/3c2fne >
