--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curtis wrote: > > When I stopped meditating about 19 years ago it felt > > a little weird for a few days and I sometimes had to > > take an afternoon nap since I was used to resting then. > > But in less than a week I felt great and have never > > desired the state again. I found that dissociation > > caused me to be a little detached from my feelings in > > a way that muffled them a bit. I enjoy the clarity non > > meditation has brought. > > > You stopped TM when you lost your innocence and began > the practice of Guru Yoga, as pointed out by Mr. McGurk. > This probably happened about the time that you decided > to become a teacher of TM. In reality, you have never > stopped meditation, for the simple fact that you never > began meditation.
No Richard I was a good little innocent meditator till the end. Sorry to disappoint you. Becoming a teacher gives you a lot more understanding of the practice as well as a lot more experience in it. The "Guru Yoga" concept it a fabrication that is outside MMY's teaching. I had all the predictable experiences that MMY's discusses when I was involved. Your attempt to appear as if you could know such a thing about me without the use of your senses is not your strongest cognitive move. > > In fact, you were born into a state of meditation, but > as you grew older you became dissassoiated with your > real state - your mind became slowly identified with the > material world of name and form, until it became totally > overshadowed by your material nature. I read those books too. > > When you started TM you probably transcended for a few > moments - this would be called a flashback to your > previous state of divine innocence - but then you stopped > transcending and somehow became involved in Guru Yoga, > following the Marshy. Your spiritual life would have > probably evolved over time if you had remained in that > innocent state. Instead you must have developed a hankering > for intellectual knowledge which then began to overshadow > your enlightened state. Yeah, "hankering for intellectual knowledge" is the enemy of innocence. It fills your mind with all that "stuff". Ignorance it bliss huh? > > With time you became more and more enmeshed in the > material world, thus losing your contact with the > transcendent. Now you only see through a glass darkly; > your previous clear state has now become almost lost > due to your being caught up in the material world. You've > lost the abilty and the opportunity to burn up your karmic > accumulations. Your only hope now is to find a true > spiritual teacher. > Like you have, no doubt? If I was more like you and saw things your way I would be better in every way! "Caught up in the material world", I guess you mean living life. Yeah, that is a problem for me. News flash: I don't have original sin and I don't have karmic debt. These concepts were made up by ancient people and they are optional. You may have a use for joining them in these beliefs. I don't. I am fine just the way I am and am not off anyone else's path. I am enjoying my own. You enjoy yours and I'll enjoy mine, and no throwing sand in the sandbox. OK?