--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Supplying some mental floss for this exchange and just in case Judy's
> > > > use of quotation marks is obfuscating, I'm sure it's not me she is
> > > > quoting as I did not write those words. Or even think them. Maybe
> > > > herself? Or someone from another decade?Â
> > > >
> > > > PSÂ I'd rather be a supposed "pompous, reality-avoiding dormouse" than
> > > > a rageful, reality-obfuscating dirty fighter. BTW, The previous
> > > > sentence shows the clean fighting way of using quotation marks as the
> > > > words enclosed therein were actually written by a FFL poster. Â Â
> > >
> > > You've got a pretty strong charge going on there, Share. Maybe it's
> > > something to reflect upon. It's quite clear to me Judy wasn't quoting
> > > anything you actually said. Her alternate approach to supplying subtext,
> > > that I've seen her use with Barry, might have been: Says Share,
> > > especially disliking the negativity of having her mistakes and falsehoods
> > > called to her attention. She really hates that.
> >
> > What I normally do is put "Translation:" before the
> > proposed subtext. In this case I was *adding* something to
> > what Share had said ("Especially when...") rather than
> > supplying subtext for what she had said, so "Translation:"
> > didn't apply. But I knew nobody would think it was
> > something she herself had said, so I just left it in
> > quotes.
> >
> > I should have known she'd try to obfuscate it.
> >
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> I'd forgotten the form "Translation:" for subtext: amplifying
> unspoken words, turning up the volume to clarify the message.
Right. It *is* somebody else's idea of the subtext, of
course; there's no guarantee it's really what the first
person has in mind (unless they cop to it).
In this case, though, the notion of taking things private
"for the sake of sparing the forum negativity" strikes me
as a particularly transparent excuse. If she'd said, for
example, "because I just don't want to talk about it in
public any more," that would at least have been honest,
and I wouldn't have spoken up. Instead she tried to make
it sound as though she were doing everybody else a favor
out of consideration for *their* feelings. Ick.
> IMO Share disliked the content of the "quote" quote. Rather
> than confront the issue, she called attention to the quotation
> marks, which is a safe bet for not owning up to anything
> you've called her on.
Right, that's what I think too. Same as when she got all
outraged over my "butting in," suggesting that it was
the fact that I had done so at all that she thought was
so reprehensible.
But Curtis had also butted in, and she seems to have
retained her high opinion of him. Thing is, he'd butted
in on *her* side, against Robin, and I'd butted in on
*Robin's* side. So clearly it was what I had said to her
that got her so angry, not the fact that I had butted in.
> Except that doesn't work out too well on a forum that
> provides little in the way of an escape hatch from yourself.
> The only way out is having enough courage and integrity to
> face the little gremlins in your psyche working real hard
> to keep you from knowing yourself...self and Self. FFLife
> is the perfect place to banish your gremlins and own your
> strengths and weaknesses. Where else can you get this much
> therapy for free? Over the years, we've come to know each
> other so well that the mirrors we hold up to each other,
> whether true or distorted are a unique blessing when used
> for self-reflection, a blessing some of us more or less
> embrace.
Beautifully said.
> > > Seems to me fighting fairly means keeping the discussion out in the open.
> > > Private emails, or even the gist of them that leak into the public
> > > discussion, Sal's for example, is more likely to engender
> > > reality-obfuscating as well as mistrust and room to stretch or avoid the
> > > truth.
> > >
> > > "I don't see how anybody can ever hope to get anywhere near the larger
> > > Truth if they have no concern for the smaller truths of everyday life,
> > > including on this forum. If we can't be honest with each other, how can
> > > we ever be honest with ourselves?" ~J. Stein
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: authfriend <authfriend@>
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 7:10 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re:to Judy & everyone -- writing for the
> > > > Church of $cientology
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My apologies to everyone including Judy for my part in
> > > > > this disagreement. If anyone has questions or concerns
> > > > > about my part in it or in the one with Robin, again my
> > > > > request is that you email me directly for sake of
> > > > > sparing the forum any further negativity.
> > > >
> > > > "Especially the negativity of having my mistakes and
> > > > falsehoods called to my attention. I really hate that."
> > > >
> > >
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