--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > When effort is transcended, then the [meditation] process is what it > is. It just is. Someone said it would not be "meditation" if the > mantra does not appear, if some subtle effort is not made to go to the > mantra. Experience disagrees, at least when effort has been > transcended. Eyes close, vastness is. One can transcend on > "nothingness". Which is a process that I beleive Vaj is refering to: > objectless meditation. Though it is "paradoxical" -- in THAT process, > what is transcending what? >
Wll, if there's no mantra, and yet awareness that there is no mantra, there's the requirement to "come back to" the mantra. But, what the hell IS the mantra? If there's doubt whether its there, you go with the flow. If there's no doubt, you go with the flow. If there IS no mantra, you go back to it... Or maybe not... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
