--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <groups@> wrote: > > > > on 9/20/06 10:18 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote: > > > > > Quoting an earlier post from Vaj: > > > > > > "At Estes Park Maharishi pointed out that there really > > > was some effort in TM. He quoted the Vedas as saying, > > > 'Be easy to us with gentle effort.'" > > > > > > Obviously we'd need a great deal more context to > > > know whether Maharishi was using this quote to > > > describe TM as involving some effort. Who is being > > > addressed in the quote? It appears to be a request > > > of some kind, but who is making the request, and > > > of whom? And how would one entity making a request > > > of another entity to "be easy to us" relate to TM? > > > > > It related to TM. I was there. I had a feeling that Maharishi was > > experimenting a bit by bringing up the quote. He only mentioned it > in one > > lecture. > > > > > On my TTC at the end when we learned the last part of the teaching, > we met with MMY and he asked us if we had any concerns before we > went into that final phase. A fellow from France stood up and said > that he had a problem with his own meditation: that every time he > thought the mantra that he wanted to shout it out. > > After talking with him for a few minutes and sort of diagnosing what > the situation was, Maharishi said to him: okay, look at my arm. I > want you to think the mantra every time I move my arm up. And then > he started to, very slowly at first, move his arm up and down. Then > he started doing it faster and then really fast. And then he > started to giggle. > > I forget what the outcome of all this was and whether the French guy > was satisfied but what struck me was that in order to do what MMY > said to do -- think the mantra every time he saw MMY's arm go up -- > that effort was involved. Now, I know that this whole episode was a > sort of "clinic" and all and it was all in context of this > particular person's unusual meditation experience, but that's what > struck me at the time: that MMY gave an instruction that necessarily > required effort. >
I think MMY's point was that the guy wasn't shouting while MMY moved his arm... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
