How about the people that would not buy a straightforward, no nonsense chess program because they already have one, but would immediately buy a chess program that sports such features as giving sarcastic responses to your mistakes and showing battles between the chessmen when there is a capture? It's chess with different twists, sort of.

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Hi Jeremy,

Well, what you say makes sense. However, there is another angle I
think we, as accessible game developers, often overlook.

For instance, you are saying you pass over an idea because it has
already done before, or too similar to a game in existance. That's
true if we are looking at the wider community, but there is still
nitch markets for those games. I myself am using Linux and there
currently is nothing like Troopenum, Hunter, Judgment Day, etc
available. So I'd probably buy it if there was a version built for
Linux. It is the same case for Mac OS users who have left Windows for
Mac, and now are trying to find games for Mac that are accessible. No
its not financially as big a gold mine as Windows, I'm certainly not
saying that, but my point is just because a similar game has been
created before doesn't mean it isn't of value to someone. It just
means we as developers have to look at the big picture and see where
potential customers are.

For instance, over the past month I've put a lot of work into
upgrading my game engine so it runs on Windows and Linux, and I'm
pretty sure if I compiled a version for Mac it should run on Mac OS as
well. So if I chose to use my engine to create another Troopenum type
game I doubt I'd get many Windows sales, because its like something
they already have, but for Mac and Linux markets I'm sure I could make
a couple thousand or so in sales from those nitch markets alone. Its
simply the old case of supply and demand at work here again.

Cheers!




On 5/18/11, Jeremy Kaldobsky <jer...@kaldobsky.com> wrote:
First off, this is the second time I've written this post so it will
probably be of lower quality this time around. My browser decided to glitch and I lost a very lost post, that was probably a full page if not a page and
a half.

As one of the new guys in the community, relatively speaking, I debated even
commenting on this topic.  I wasn't around for the "golden era" so my
perspective is extremely limited compared to those who have been around long
enough to see the bigger picture.

That being said, I don't doubt things have slowed down with audio game
development to some degree, I believe that is normal.  I do, also, agree
with Dark that a well made game can still use old ideas.

Recently I assembled a list of the audio games and tools I have released. I was honestly shocked by how short that list was! I kept thinking I had left
things out, and it took me a while to accept that the list was accurate.
The reason I felt like I had done more is because for every game/tool I've
released, I have 2 that were only partially finished.  While developing a
new game, if I discover existing games that use the same general idea, I
will get discouraged.  The same is true when I read that someone else is
currently developing a game with a similar style.  In those cases, I will
just push my project aside and start work on another.  Part of the way
through that design, there's always a chance the same thing will happen
again.

Even if only half of the other developers are like me, that is a lot of
developers holding off on projects because they are searching for a unique idea. Sure, if we stuck with it our games would be different in some ways,
but they are still similar to something already out there.  I always ask
myself the question, "Why waste time when I could be making something
totally unique?"

Over the years, many audio games have been created, and they represent many
different game styles.  For anyone trying not to repeat an existing game,
this means our options are getting smaller and smaller all the time.  New
ideas are tricky, and they take longer to develop than the games based on
old ideas. It is only natural for things to slow down because of this. I believe that this would still be true even if the old classic game companies
were still around.  They probably rode out the market until the trends
started to change. It was a smart move on their part, if that is what they
did.

New ideas also run the risk of being rejected.  I released Daytona to be
unique, and many people played it, but also many more didn't even care to
try it. That's not meant to put anyone down, but it is just a reality. The
more new and unique you make a game, the more likely it is that you've
narrowed down on your potential player base. For this very reason I set my combat game aside because I didn't have faith that my player base would be large enough to help me support the ongoing server costs. I'm also fairly
certain my next Daytona game will be completely passed over by a sizable
portion of the community simply because it requires the mouse to play.  I
built Lunimals to be as close to "standard" as I could, and I'm sure its
recent popularity speaks loudly in support of my theory.


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