First, to address Dark: I do take your point about Street Fighter, Tekken, and Mortal Combat, but I take that point only to a point. I understand the different game mechanics, the different button presses and how they affect the fighters movements differently in each game, but I'm not talking about microcosmic views on the games. What I mean is that you, the player, press specific, predetermined sequences of controls, in realtime, which trigger calculations based on the position of your character and his opponent or opponents, possibly throw in some random chance, and result in a punch to the face. the specifics are different, but even these rise and fall throughout different games in the serieses. Sometimes, these specific control schemes even differ in the same game. Tekken 6, for example, has a 3d arena that's playyed in like a 2d, movement largely forward and back, with jumps and such, but it has stages played in true 3d style, with commands to switch to a 2d interface if that's what you need to have to fight.
It's more about that we can have games with similar control schemes yet that are very, very different based on content. For example, if you just picked up your controller, judged timing, threw a little guesswork in there for luck, and won, it'd be less satisfying if you didn't care anything about the fighter you're playing. You do, though, because of character history, cut scenes, commentary, even little snippets, brief voiced parts that give you some small idea of the character in question. In this way, our games lack, because we get really worried about size versus playability. It's frankly unfair to us, because mainstream titles nowadays are on dvd media, which has gigabytes of room: rom for code, sounds, voice clips, fully orchestrated music, and what have you. We start worrying if our games get bigger than, say, 50 megabytes. I understand the concern, I get the reasons behind it, but it still results in games with less to compel you, the player, to give a hoot, as my wife might say, about the character at all. Fortunately, Perilous Hearts, among other titles, seems to be taking this problem firmly in hand, and that's already given me a great deal of confidence that I'd enjoy the game, even if the gameplay was horrible, the systems were flawed, and the price outrageous, which won't be the case. I'm going to say it just once more, because I've lost count of how many times I've said it, and it provides the amusement of being embarrassed for me to do it once more. Content makes a game nowadays. Story makes a product. That's the difference between the dungeon crawlers of the eighties and the Elder Scrolls or Fable or any of the other RPG titles of today. Content, story, that's what creates success. That's not to do with interface or how we use information. I've known many people that will read a terribly written book if the plot is great. I'm one of those people myself. I know it sounds like I'm unsatisfied with our games right now, what we have going on. Truthfully, I'm not. I play as many games as I can, enjoying all of the ones i have on my computer. It's just that the games in future can be even greater. And I have to appologize for the harshness of how this is going to come across. People say that they can't find voice talent, or that they can't find talent with similar recording conditions. Frankly, at this point, that's just a little lazy. There are literally thousands of aspiring voice actors out there who'd literally leap at the chance to do just about anything for a game, just for kudos and credits, something they can show people. Surely, in all of those thousands, there are some who would meet the developer's idea of good casting and good recording, or maybe the devs could say "I can't handle all of this work. If you do the casting, do the sounds, or what have you, I'll pay you. How about a free copy of the game." Frankly, if I was approached with something like that I'd jump on it, and it'd free the dev up to do developing work, for which I'm utterly useless. Just keep all of this in mind, awesome developers, as you keep up the good work, and try not to be too mad at me if I've crossed a line or stood on a toe. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 11/17/11, Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good stuff to chew on here. I do think that Jeremy's style actually lends > itself to getting around the development lag time issues though, as he > creates continual excitement about his games by frequent updates, which > aren't always huge in and of themselves, but taken cumulatively change the > games quite a bit through their development cycle. My long post earlier was > simply to encourage him (or others for that matter) to take that idea and > run with it in a larger field. Yes, it still might take three years to come > up with the fully finished game, but we'd be playing something within a > month, and then something a bit more complex in another month. Along the > way, we'd have direct and demonstrably effective input on things that work > well and that don't. > > It's not possibly a viable method for a commercial game, since it relies on > mass penetration before a commercial product is ready, but I could envision > a kick-starter campaign or something like it to maintain interest and bring > in some fundage for continued development, purchase of new hardware or > software. I would certainly contribute to Jeremy's server fund as and when > he outgrows his current configuration. > > There's a new model of development in this market here, and I'd like to see > others take it and run with it, as well as encouraging Jeremy in his > continued efforts. > > And dude, low-cost braille!? If he can make that work, he'll get some fine > Scotch whiskey from me at a bare minimum. > > Chris Bartlett > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://email@example.com. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://firstname.lastname@example.org. 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