I think you are looking at support the wrong way.  Google/Greg can correct
me if I'm wrong... but The $500 a month is to get support for GAE "ISSUES"
not "Development Issues".


What I mean by that.   The GAE team has helped me out when I needed an
understanding of how something works behind scenes to predict scalablility.
These were Non-Emergency services that were provided via the forum.  They
have also provided best practices support and other "Dev support".

Premier support I believe is supposed to be for some of the things that I
really wished could have gone faster... But I wasn't willing to pay for.
Hey I just blew up my billing and my client is on national TV in 3 hours can
I move the slider so that I don't hit a quota limit in 4 hours.  Or, Hey my
index seems stuck can you Vacuum it for me. Or Hey Apps For domains is
sending all of my traffic to an app other than the one I deployed even
though it worked two days ago and they claim it's your problem not theirs.

If you don't have an app then you don't really have "Support" issues. You
have "Dev issues".   I don't think even with Nick and Greg and Ikai being
great guys that they are going to write your code for you.

Not being in the $500 a month program I don't know if you can call them up
and say "Hey guys explain to me the risk reward of moving to Web App2 if I'm
currently on WebApp 1 and don't need the "Extras" should I move because I
might want them someday, or should I stay because WebApp is so well tested
and App2 is kind of new and I don't trust you.    But I'm very sure you
can't call them up and say "I have this query it takes 55 seconds to execute
and costs me $3 every time I do so can you re-write it for me so that it
doesn't cost so much"

That isn't to say that $500 is not an amazing deal to be able to call
somebody... Just realize that the support number I have for just about
everywhere really does the same thing that the email support does, but I get
to look my client in the eye and say. I was on the phone with Tier 2 support
they say things will suck less in 6 hours.  Had I waited patiently via email
I would also have them suck less in 6 hours.   Where you will make up the
$500 is for things like that "my client is going on national TV" so that you
know that if you need resources or changes there is someone to make sure
they are available and go smoothly.


Brandon Wirtz 
BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of philburk
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:12 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Who wants to be in a group (organization) to
open a GAE Premier account?

Hello Greg,

Thanks for the explanation. I understand that users who do not pay should
not expect support. That's fair.

But I am in a kind of gray area between freeloaders and premier customers. I
am building a large app and expect to pay big bucks in the future.
Unfortunately I'm still in development mode and haven't gone over my quota
so I am technically a freeloader. But I need some support before I launch my
business app.  I think the reason for the free quota was to encourage folks
to build apps that eventually pay.
But it is hard to ramp up to that level without support.

On Nov 23, 4:26 pm, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We also created premier accounts for developers who need to get 
> answers and are willing to pay what it would cost us to have people 
> ready, willing, and able to answer their questions quickly.

Maybe you could have a *middle tier* of support. I'm not yet ready to spend
$500/month for premier service. I don't need emergency response by phone.
But I would happily spend $100/month to be on a forum that gets a response
within a day. For example, I am currently unable to create new apps because
of what I think is a corrupted GAE account.
The documented techniques for creating apps work for others but not for me.
So I can't migrate to HDR. I'm stuck and my only option is to pay
$500/month. Ouch.

Having a support option somewhere between "all" or "nothing" would be great.

BTW, I love GAE and GWT. They rock!

Thanks,
Phil Burk

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