constitution is not divinely unfolding to maintain the 'normality' of the society. constitution has its own apparatus to carry out its power. this power is not free from racial prejudices. it forecasts the muslim terrorist groups behind any explosions going to happen anywhere in the world. we've so many incidents that innocent muslims torutured for anticipated 'terrorist' activities.
nobody asked for accountability from sanghparviar for gujarat massacre. nor do anybody ask accountability from 'terrorist' for rajastan explosions. insisting transparency in state actions is nothing but of a minimum democratic spirit. On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 8:31 PM, C.K. Vishwanath < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > many studies point out that the new civil society > politics represents the aspirations of the middle > class and sidelining the life aspirations of the > subaltern section of the society.the resident welfare > associations are particularly dominating in urban > areas which are an outright anti-subltern minset.it > can be seen in urban areas very clearly(civil society > based politics vs the subltern politics) > --- Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > but, somebody imagines the 'absolute' justice > > derived from the > > constitution and advocates for the flawless police/ > > military actions > > to maintain the law and order rejecting all civil > > society initiatives to > > observe the accountability of the state, has clear > > dominant class-race > > politics. > > > > Where is it implied that there is no space for civil > > society initiatives? > > The discussion was about a particular suggestion, > > which is redundant and > > even dangerous, considering the politics behind it. > > > > At any rate, why is it assumed that 'civil society > > initiatives' are immune > > to corrupting influences, compared to constitutional > > institutions? Democracy > > to a large extend depends on the unelected (but > > certainly not unaccountable) > > too: > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2734392.cms > > > > * The fundamental mark of a democracy is not > > elections but an institutional > > framework that lays down the rights of the people > > and rules of political > > engagement, and cannot be trampled on by the ruling > > government. The > > framework is typically a Constitution. In many > > countries, Constitutions are > > mere pieces of paper, ignored by rulers. In a true > > democracy like India, the > > Constitution is actually enforced.* > > It is in the enforcement part of it that civil > > society initiatives become > > important. Constitutional law however, is > > non-negotiable. > > > > Best regards, > > Murali > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM, salimtk > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 'decent', 'peaceful' and slow moving life is > > always a desire of no rigid > > > class-caste references. it sure is a harmless > > desire also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell > > people what they don't > > want to hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
