we've seen recently some civil society initiatives in solidarity with Chengara struggle. branding them of middle class aspirations seems to me not fair.
On 5/17/08, C.K. Vishwanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many studies point out that the new civil society > politics represents the aspirations of the middle > class and sidelining the life aspirations of the > subaltern section of the society.the resident welfare > associations are particularly dominating in urban > areas which are an outright anti-subltern minset.it > can be seen in urban areas very clearly(civil society > based politics vs the subltern politics) > --- Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > but, somebody imagines the 'absolute' justice > > derived from the > > constitution and advocates for the flawless police/ > > military actions > > to maintain the law and order rejecting all civil > > society initiatives to > > observe the accountability of the state, has clear > > dominant class-race > > politics. > > > > Where is it implied that there is no space for civil > > society initiatives? > > The discussion was about a particular suggestion, > > which is redundant and > > even dangerous, considering the politics behind it. > > > > At any rate, why is it assumed that 'civil society > > initiatives' are immune > > to corrupting influences, compared to constitutional > > institutions? Democracy > > to a large extend depends on the unelected (but > > certainly not unaccountable) > > too: > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2734392.cms > > > > * The fundamental mark of a democracy is not > > elections but an institutional > > framework that lays down the rights of the people > > and rules of political > > engagement, and cannot be trampled on by the ruling > > government. The > > framework is typically a Constitution. In many > > countries, Constitutions are > > mere pieces of paper, ignored by rulers. In a true > > democracy like India, the > > Constitution is actually enforced.* > > It is in the enforcement part of it that civil > > society initiatives become > > important. Constitutional law however, is > > non-negotiable. > > > > Best regards, > > Murali > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:55 PM, salimtk > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 'decent', 'peaceful' and slow moving life is > > always a desire of no rigid > > > class-caste references. it sure is a harmless > > desire also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell > > people what they don't > > want to hear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
