I don't think we explicitly age out these things, but we may have a limit on the number of entries on a user's automatic whitelist that's discards based on age.
Also, as the automatic whitelist is generated from user content/interactions but isn't visible, it likely needs to be tied to the content that generated it, so if the user deletes that content, it will go away as well. I'm not sure that's true for that specific piece of data or not (IANAL or privacy expert) Also, surprising no one, spammers have found ways to exploit our various previous interaction whitelists, so now they're not actually whitelists but merely whitelisting signals. Brandon On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 6:37 PM Ángel via mailop <[email protected]> wrote: > Count me too as someone with a tiny server that Gmail automatically > files in spam with apparently no reason. > There are so few mails sent there (at most, 7 mails *per month*, often > none at all) and seeming so futile, I didn't even dedicate time to that. > It's slightly annoying, though. > > There is people that download the mails and never even see what went > into the spam folder. > I have also warned people that they might receive my emails into gmail > spam folder, that they didn't think would happen. Receiving time after > that a late reply excusing himself noting that it went indeed straight > into spam. > > It doesn't seem to be in a particularly bad neighborhood, either. The > most relevant event there was a bad apple almost two years ago that > resulted in a shortly-lived /24 spamhaus listing. > Maybe some system is remembering such old event (from *another* IP > address) and considering that enough to consider as spam. Or it could be > using fairy dust. > > It is perhaps too easy to moan on how *Google* should be doing things, > and I'm probably not qualified to voice an opinion on their default > approach for cold-mails received from sources with no reputation. > However, the part that I find odd is that, after an account actively > engages with a recipient, it would 'forget' it and still go to spam, as > reported by Jaroslaw. > I would expect that after Alice sends (or replies to) an email to Bob, > absent a newer user signal (such as later marking it as spam), mail from > Bob would _not_ go into Alice spam folder. Especially if it is a reply > to a message from Alice. There are clearly indexes in place for sender > and message-ids in gmail, so checking those, and that overriding the > vague reputation that seems would be in play here, would appear to be > the proper way to go.* > > > Maybe I should perform some tests to see how things seem to work now. > > > Best regards > > > * I am a bit conflicted on the proper behavior if it detected clearly > malicious content, though. The user may be clearly expecting news from > that 'overseas banker', but if it was actually a fraud... > > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > [email protected] > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop >
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