Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no barrier to love nor lust. ;)
Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, though! No soft spot at all for us romantics? On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. Two would be lethal.// I > wasn't sure this thought would get through but I would like to read > along in this group. I am a grandmother so somewhat protected from > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I lust after William > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.// > > On May 4, 10:35�am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> Ah, the voice of the jaded. >> >> Welcome, Rigsy. Care to tell us a story? >> >> >> >> [ Attached Message ]From:rigsy03 <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" >> <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 06:16:08 -0700 >> (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:16�amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the >> nature of Love? >> >> Love is a myth and marketing tool. >> >> On May 4, 8:10 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Not always, but definitely at least sometimes. There is much healing in a >> > loving touch. >> >> > [ Attached Message ]From:Rosey <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" >> > <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 05:53:04 -0700 >> > (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:53 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the >> > nature of Love? >> >> > Is affection healing? Can a person kiss and hug the pain away? I >> > believe this tactic works. But for some it does not. >> >> > On May 4, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > I think I understand and I do appreciate your words here Vam. We all, >> > > each of us, deserve to be surrounded by those that love us >> > > unconditionally, and allow us to be who we are as we evolve and >> > > awaken. The key for me has been to provide this to those around me. I >> > > have found that in doing so, I am surrounded by folks who can love in >> > > the same way. This does not mean that I allow myself to be exploited >> > > or abused, because I think that a part of unconditional love is >> > > bringing such behavior by the other to light, and then moving away >> > > from it, allowing the other to learn or not. There are times when >> > > compassion is enough and the relationship becoming peripheral is in >> > > perfect order. Your unconditional love then includes honesty, >> > > appreciation and psychological safety for all. These can be provided >> > > through deep intimacy or great distance. There is a grace that leads >> > > the way. >> >> > > On May 4, 12:49 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > " Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and important part >> > > > of the relationship to me ... " >> >> > > > And Grace, both while giving to and receiving from ... But, valuable >> > > > and important as they are, these are still the atmospherics. The >> > > > crucial part is the quality of ' being ' individuals sense within >> > > > themselves, and the opportunity they have to ' be ' themselves, to >> > > > grow and evolve and continue to transform the ' I - Space ' within to >> > > > greater sense of strength, happiness, freedom and self - discovery. >> >> > > > We are all striving for that rich and pregnant ground of ' I - space ' >> > > > in which our finitude dissolves. The others are important to us, in >> > > > this context, for the atmospherics they cause or contribute to. It can >> > > > aid or mar the ' awakening.' >> >> > > > We each love the other, for the love of our Self ! >> >> > > > ( I waited long before punching the ' Send ' button, wondering if what >> > > > I'm posting makes any sense. Even, if it is appropriate ? ) >> >> > > > On May 4, 7:57 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > I think (a very necessary disclaimer in topics such as these) that >> > > > > the secret may be to only require commitment from your partner, to >> > > > > continue to freely be who you are, and expect the same from them, >> > > > > and to strive for the happy balance of compromise and acceptance in >> > > > > the places where friction inevitably occurs. Sometimes we align >> > > > > ourselves with partners who have drastically different life goals, >> > > > > and that's simply not possible. Other times our partners, or we >> > > > > ourselves, are in a self destructive place which is simply not >> > > > > conducive to a healthy relationship. If, however, we are both >> > > > > aligned similarly, and both committed to that goal, then a zen state >> > > > > of love, where it is not questioned, but simply is, seems to me to >> > > > > be the path to a long term bliss. >> >> > > > > If everyday, despite the day I've had, I make the effort to express >> > > > > some portion of Eros energy to my partner, even if in no other form >> > > > > than text message, I've "been", in the zen sense, affirmed the love, >> > > > > made it be by being it. When that is affirmed in reply, that circle >> > > > > is completed. The actual physical expenditure of the ritual is >> > > > > miniscule, yet the effect is powerful. >> >> > > > > Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and important part >> > > > > of the relationship to me, which Is just one of the many ides of >> > > > > Love I inherit from my Father. He's still married to my Mom, and >> > > > > from all appearances, still in love with her in an Eros kind of way. >> > > > > :-D It's a strong archetype to have in your head of what a long term >> > > > > love can be. I can't imagine the idea of my Father being unfaithful >> > > > > to my Mom. It's inconceivable to me. >> >> > > > > It strikes me Neil that one of the problems with Love is that most >> > > > > of the wisdom about it doesn't come until our later years, and many >> > > > > of us either don't have a proper Sage around, or are a bit too damn >> > > > > fool hardy in our youths to listen if we do. >> >> > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:archytas >> > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" >> > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 18:30:21 -0700 >> > > > > (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 6:30 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is >> > > > > the nature of Love? >> >> > > > > There is some thinking that love is over-stated and leads to over- >> > > > > expectation, perhaps rather strangely making loving relationship more >> > > > > difficult than it needs to be. Raising any of us fallible humans to a >> > > > > golden pedestal is to put whoever it is before a fall. One can >> > > > > certainly be loving and it appears this can be reciprocal, though I'd >> > > > > expect this to be less than perfect or bound in mutual illusions. >> > > > > Freedom from exploitation seems key to me, along with some form of >> > > > > understanding on equality. I can say that I wish I had been better >> > > > > able to enjoy sex earlier in my life through some decent education >> > > > > about it. >> >> > > > > On 4 May, 01:07, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > Exactly, trust is essential to the bond, it is the adhesive quality >> > > > > > that transforms two into one. The bond can be broken and repaired >> > > > > > but >> > > > > > it forever has the crack that remains a visible detraction and >> > > > > > possibly a perpetual doubt which can fester at anytime under >> > > > > > testing >> > > > > > situations, such as out of town overnight business meetings or the >> > > > > > introduction of a past friend, literally anything can set off the >> > > > > > process of relationship erosion. I can only wish that everyone >> > > > > > would >> > > > > > find that special soul mate and live happily ever after. >> >> > > > > > On May 3, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> >> > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > I agree completely about fidelity. For some, a dip in another >> > > > > > > pool provides added excitement...but for me, it cracks the >> > > > > > > foundation of the love I have, irreparably, no matter which >> > > > > > > person is to blame. Trust is key for me, and without >> > > > > > > faithfulness, there is no trust. >> >> > > > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds >> > > > > > > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 12:48:43 >> > > > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Sun, May 3 2009 2:48 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: >> > > > > > > What is the nature of Love? >> >> > > > > > > It must be Chris being that you posted twice on it, lol, thanks. >> >> > > > > > > I might add that much of my feelings at this point are based on >> > > > > > > the >> > > > > > > fact that she is without exception my best friend in the world. >> > > > > > > The >> > > > > > > monogamy issue for me is moot as I would hurt as much as she >> > > > > > > would, >> > > > > > > and mutually so. I guess in that sense the love factor reveals >> > > > > > > itself >> > > > > > > to be the core driven emotion that keeps us together. When that >> > > > > > > emotion is present, the thought of infidelity never enters the >> > > > > > > mind. >> > > > > > > Love, being faithful, gives relationships integrity and provides >> > > > > > > a >> > > > > > > sound platform on which to continue building. Newly founded >> > > > > > > relationships or marriages are like a complete white circle that >> > > > > > > accumulates black spots for each little transgression, larger >> > > > > > > spots >> > > > > > > for more serious infractions. As time goes by the circle may seem >> > > > > > > more black than white and the imbalance weighs heavier on the >> > > > > > > side of >> > > > > > > failure due to the loss of integrity, eventually with nothing >> > > > > > > left the >> > > > > > > relationship collapses. We can fantasize all we want about how >> > > > > > > much >> > > > > > > greener the grass is on the other side but truth is it takes >> > > > > > > mutual >> > > > > > > effort no matter where the grass is. I would venture to guess >> > > > > > > that >> > > > > > > there is that one perfect soul mate relationship out there >> > > > > > > waiting for >> > > > > > > us to find it, that being the hardest part of it all. >> >> > > > > > > On Apr 29, 11:45 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > I think this is my favorite post from you ever, Slip. >> >> > > > > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:24:10 >> > > > > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Wed, Apr 29 2009 11:24 pmSubject:[Mind's Eye] >> > > > > > > > Re: What is the nature of Love? >> >> > > > > > > > I don't know that I could identify with true love anymore, not >> > > > > > > > in the >> > > > > > > > way I did 40 years ago when the heart was expendable for the >> > > > > > > > sake of >> > > > > > > > the other, when self didn't matter and all the other feelings >> > > > > > > > we have >> > > > > > > > when "Love" takes over. Sometimes I wish I could have been >> > > > > > > > more the >> > > > > > > > way I am today back then as it would have saved many of my >> > > > > > > > hearts and >> > > > > > > > dollars. Now I could care less for it, though I do have some >> > > > > > > > spurts >> > > > > > > > of it. Considering that I've told my wife several times that >> > > > > > > > upon >> > > > > > > > winning the big lotto I would set her up with whatever she >> > > > > > > > wanted and >> > > > > > > > that I was chao chao bambino, whether I would follow through >> > > > > > > > with that >> > > > > > > > is another story, I may never want to leave her. I do have a >> > > > > > > > great >> > > > > > > > deal of love for her and I do call it love but it's not what >> > > > > > > > it should >> > > > > > > > be I guess, not sure. She is a great woman in a lot of ways, I >> > > > > > > > will >> > > > > > > > take care of her the best I can and protect her from anyone >> > > > > > > > intending >> > > > > > > > harm of any sort and kill if I had to, maybe that is the >> > > > > > > > instinctive >> > > > > > > > male in me, I don't >> >> ... >> >> read more �- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
