Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole trip- painting, music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, diplomas. It still doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living in a grand house. My children are scattered and I was a good mother to them. Maybe that is Love.
On May 4, 5:04�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote: > Love is beauty and pain defined. �But in order to experience the pain > you must see its beauty. �Which often happens unexpectedly. �I wish I > wasn't one of those people that think with their heart. �What is the > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart blind you from > using it? �When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, longing for > passion. �Perhaps a flight without a plane. �Or a swim without water. > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. �It's there but your > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but not capable of > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does change. �It gives > one the ability to things they would never expect. > > For example: �I was able to play a tune on the piano, yet I don't play > the piano. �No, not expertly, I would post a link to it but would be > worried about getting critiqued by experts. �I am no expert and don't > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard about two months ago, > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my eyes and let my > fingers work their own magic. �Do you think love gives one > abilities? > > On May 4, 5:46�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. I look back over my > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare me my money. The last > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool sweetheart who I dated for > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. He was still a jerk > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens. > > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no barrier to love nor > > > lust. ;) > > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, though! No soft spot at > > > all for us romantics? > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. Two would be lethal.// I > > > > wasn't sure this thought would get through but I would like to read > > > > along in this group. I am a grandmother so somewhat protected from > > > > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I lust after William > > > > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.// > > > > > On May 4, 10:35 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Ah, the voice of the jaded. > > > > >> Welcome, Rigsy. Care to tell us a story? > > > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:rigsy03 <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > >> <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 06:16:08 -0700 > > > >> (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:16 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: What is the > > > >> nature of Love? > > > > >> Love is a myth and marketing tool. > > > > >> On May 4, 8:10 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Not always, but definitely at least sometimes. There is much healing > > > >> > in a loving touch. > > > > >> > [ Attached Message ]From:Rosey <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds > > > >> > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 05:53:04 > > > >> > -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:53 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re: > > > >> > What is the nature of Love? > > > > >> > Is affection healing? Can a person kiss and hug the pain away? I > > > >> > believe this tactic works. But for some it does not. > > > > >> > On May 4, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > I think I understand and I do appreciate your words here Vam. We > > > >> > > all, > > > >> > > each of us, deserve to be surrounded by those that love us > > > >> > > unconditionally, and allow us to be who we are as we evolve and > > > >> > > awaken. The key for me has been to provide this to those around > > > >> > > me. I > > > >> > > have found that in doing so, I am surrounded by folks who can love > > > >> > > in > > > >> > > the same way. This does not mean that I allow myself to be > > > >> > > exploited > > > >> > > or abused, because I think that a part of unconditional love is > > > >> > > bringing such behavior by the other to light, and then moving away > > > >> > > from it, allowing the other to learn or not. There are times when > > > >> > > compassion is enough and the relationship becoming peripheral is in > > > >> > > perfect order. Your unconditional love then includes honesty, > > > >> > > appreciation and psychological safety for all. These can be > > > >> > > provided > > > >> > > through deep intimacy or great distance. There is a grace that > > > >> > > leads > > > >> > > the way. > > > > >> > > On May 4, 12:49 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > " Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and > > > >> > > > important part > > > >> > > > of the relationship to me ... " > > > > >> > > > And Grace, both while giving to and receiving from ... But, > > > >> > > > valuable > > > >> > > > and important as they are, these are still the atmospherics. The > > > >> > > > crucial part is the quality of ' being ' individuals sense within > > > >> > > > themselves, and the opportunity they have to ' be ' themselves, > > > >> > > > to > > > >> > > > grow and evolve and continue to transform the ' I - Space ' > > > >> > > > within to > > > >> > > > greater sense of strength, happiness, freedom and self - > > > >> > > > discovery. > > > > >> > > > We are all striving for that rich and pregnant ground of ' I - > > > >> > > > space ' > > > >> > > > in which our finitude dissolves. The others are important to us, > > > >> > > > in > > > >> > > > this context, for the atmospherics they cause or contribute to. > > > >> > > > It can > > > >> > > > aid or mar the ' awakening.' > > > > >> > > > We each love the other, for the love of our Self ! > > > > >> > > > ( I waited long before punching the ' Send ' button, wondering > > > >> > > > if what > > > >> > > > I'm posting makes any sense. Even, if it is appropriate ? ) > > > > >> > > > On May 4, 7:57 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > I think (a very necessary disclaimer in topics such as these) > > > >> > > > > that the secret may be to only require commitment from your > > > >> > > > > partner, to continue to freely be who you are, and expect the > > > >> > > > > same from them, and to strive for the happy balance of > > > >> > > > > compromise and acceptance in the places where friction > > > >> > > > > inevitably occurs. Sometimes we align ourselves with partners > > > >> > > > > who have drastically different life goals, and that's simply > > > >> > > > > not possible. Other times our partners, or we ourselves, are > > > >> > > > > in a self destructive place which is simply not conducive to a > > > >> > > > > healthy relationship. If, however, we are both aligned > > > >> > > > > similarly, and both committed to that goal, then a zen state > > > >> > > > > of love, where it is not questioned, but simply is, seems to > > > >> > > > > me to be the path to a long term bliss. > > > > >> > > > > If everyday, despite the day I've had, I make the effort to > > > >> > > > > express some portion of Eros energy to my partner, even if in > > > >> > > > > no other form than text message, I've "been", in the zen > > > >> > > > > sense, affirmed the love, made it be by being it. When that is > > > >> > > > > affirmed in reply, that circle is completed. The actual > > > >> > > > > physical expenditure of the ritual is miniscule, yet the > > > >> > > > > effect is powerful. > > > > >> > > > > Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and > > > >> > > > > important part of the relationship to me, which Is just one of > > > >> > > > > the many ides of Love I inherit from my Father. He's still > > > >> > > > > married to my Mom, and from all appearances, still in love > > > >> > > > > with her in an Eros kind of way. :-D It's a strong archetype > > > >> > > > > to have in your head of what a long term love can be. I can't > > > >> > > > > imagine the idea of my Father being unfaithful to my Mom. It's > > > >> > > > > inconceivable to me. > > > > >> > > > > It strikes me Neil that one of the problems with Love is that > > > >> > > > > most of the wisdom about it doesn't come until our later > > > >> > > > > years, and many of us either don't have a proper Sage around, > > > >> > > > > or are a bit too damn fool hardy in our youths to listen if we > > > >> > > > > do. > > > > >> > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:archytas > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 18:30:21 > > > >> > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 6:30 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] > > > >> > > > > Re: What is the nature of Love? > > > > >> > > > > There is some thinking that love is over-stated and leads to > > > >> > > > > over- > > > >> > > > > expectation, perhaps rather strangely making loving > > > >> > > > > relationship more > > > >> > > > > difficult than it needs to be. Raising any of us fallible > > > >> > > > > humans to a > > > >> > > > > golden pedestal is to put whoever it is before a fall. One can > > > >> > > > > certainly be loving and it appears this can be reciprocal, > > > >> > > > > though I'd > > > >> > > > > expect this to be less than perfect or bound in mutual > > > >> > > > > illusions. > > > >> > > > > Freedom from exploitation seems key to me, along with some > > > >> > > > > form of > > > >> > > > > understanding on equality. I can say that I wish I had been > > > >> > > > > better > > > >> > > > > able to enjoy sex earlier in my life through some decent > > > >> > > > > education > > > >> > > > > about it. > > > > >> > > > > On 4 May, 01:07, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > Exactly, trust is essential to the bond, it is the adhesive > > > >> > > > > > quality > > > >> > > > > > that transforms two into one. The bond can be broken and > > > >> > > > > > repaired but > > > >> > > > > > it forever has the crack that remains a visible detraction > > > >> > > > > > and > > > >> > > > > > possibly a perpetual doubt which can fester at anytime under > > > >> > > > > > testing > > > >> > > > > > situations, such as out of town overnight business meetings > > > >> > > > > > or the > > > >> > > > > > introduction of a past friend, literally anything can set > > > >> > > > > > off the > > > >> > > > > > process of relationship erosion. I can only wish that > > > >> > > > > > everyone would > > > >> > > > > > find that special soul mate and live happily ever after. > > > > >> > > > > > On May 3, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins > > > >> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > I agree completely about fidelity. For some, a dip in > > > >> > > > > > > another pool provides added excitement...but for me, it > > > >> > > > > > > cracks the foundation of the love I have, irreparably, no > > > >> > > > > > > matter which person is to blame. Trust is key for me, and > > > >> > > > > > > without faithfulness, there is no trust. > > > > >> > > > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:Slip Disc > > > >> > > > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\"" > > > >> > > > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 12:48:43 > > > >> > > > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Sun, May 3 2009 2:48 pmSubject:[Mind's > > > >> > > > > > > Eye] Re: What is the nature of Love? > > > > >> > > > > > > It must be Chris > > ... > > read more �- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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