On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, jaykumar hs <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 2009/11/26 renuka prasad <[email protected]> > > >> >> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM, jaykumar hs <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM, renuka prasad <[email protected] >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Nagarjun G. <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> justin joseph wrote: >>>>> > In malayalam free software is refered to as "Swathantra" software, >>>>> the >>>>> > word mukhti is there in >>>>> > malayalam too. I am assuming(maybe wrong) that these words might >>>>> have >>>>> > similar meanings considering >>>>> > that they are of sanskrit origin(both words), but never heard >>>>> > reference to "mukhti" software. >>>>> > >>>>> > Malayalam translators might furthur explain. >>>>> > >>>>> > What is free software in Tamil? >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> If I speak the same talk in say Telugu, I would use "Swatantra" and not >>>>> "Mukti" for the following reason: Freedom Movement is not only >>>>> translated but also used as Swatantra udhyamam, we dont say mukta >>>>> udhyamam. It is very important to relate free software movement >>>>> historically to swatantra udhyamam that took place and going to >>>>> takeplace at various places all over the world. This is my most >>>>> compelling reason for using the term "swatantram" in place of "Mukta" >>>>> or >>>>> "Mukti". >>>>> >>>>> >>>> so can we use ಸಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ instead of ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ ( swaatantrya instead of >>>> swatantra ) >>>> >>> >>> It is not a question of bargaining to retain the word which has >>> infatuated a person! >>> >>> infatuated ? i dont know what are you talking about >> >> no body is trying to bargaining here.. >> >> >>> Yes. You can use swaatantrya instead of swatantra. But what I am >>> requesting is please donot use Mukta for Free software in kannada. >>> >>> ಅಯ್ಯಾ ಮಹಾಪ್ರಭುವೆ ಅದನ್ನೇ ನಾನೂ ತಿಳಿಸಲಿಕ್ಕೆ ಪ್ರಯತ್ನಿಸಿದ್ದು >> >>> It is perfect if you use 'ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ' instead of 'ಮುಕ್ತ' . >>> >> >> ya now you are trying to understand , so i could use 'ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ' >> > > The problem is you are not trying to understand, but trying to use what you > only feel is fine. Your argument below makes it clear. > > i have understood , may be according to you > >>> 'ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ' ಪದವು 'ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ' ಎಂಬ ಪದದಿಂದ ಉದ್ಭವಿಸಿದೆ ಎಂದು ನಿಜವಾಗಲೂ ಮನದಟ್ಟು >>> ಆಗಿರುವವರು 'ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ' ಎಂಬ ಪದವನ್ನೇ ಉಪಯೋಗಿಸಿದರೆ ಅದರಿಂದೇನೂ ನಷ್ಟವಿಲ್ಲ. ಏಕೆಂದರೆ >>> ಇದು ಫ್ರೀ ಸಾಫ್ಟ್ವೇರ್ ಮತ್ತು ಓಪನ್ ಸಾಫ್ಟ್ವೇರ್ ಗಳ ನಡುವೆ ಗೊಂದಲ ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಸುವುದಿಲ್ಲ. >>> >>> ಆದರೆ ಮುಕ್ತ ಎಂಬ ಪದವು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ಫ್ರೀಡಂ ನ್ನು ಪ್ರತಿನಿಧಿಸುವಾಗ ಓಪನ್ ಸಾಫ್ಟ್ವೇರ್ >>> ನೊಡನೆ ಗೊಂದಲ ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಸುವುದಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು ತಪ್ಪಾಗಿ ಮನದಟ್ಟು ಮಾಡಿಕೊಂಡರೆ ಭಾರಿ ನಷ್ಟ >>> ಉಂಟಾಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಈ ಮಾತುಗಳನ್ನು ಬರೆ ಒಣ ಹರಟೆಗಾಗಿ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಿಲ್ಲ ಅಥವಾ ನನ್ನತನವನ್ನ >>> ಸಾಧಿಸಲು ಹೇಳುತ್ತಿಲ್ಲ. ಕನ್ನಡ ಭಾಷೆ ಮತ್ತು ಫ್ರೀ ಸಾಫ್ಟ್ವೇರ್ ಗಳ ಕಾಳಜಿಯಿಂದಷ್ಟೇ >>> ಹೇಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದೇನೆ. >>> >>> ಅದೇ ಉದ್ದೇಶದಿಂದಲೇ >> >> for the same reason i feel using ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ / ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ /ಮುಕ್ತ is ok >> > > It cannot be OK my dear. > y dont you write article with your definitions and upload then you will explore and experience .. ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ / ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ -- ok na ---- but ಮುಕ್ತ should not be used by open source , will you understand that -- if you say no then you have not understood why i was trying to tell all these. finally most of the people are convinced to used ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ instead of ಸ್ವತಂತ್ರ while talking about free software. anyways very soon i wil mail the detailed discussion,/ survey /video about these -- atleast that time it will clear the infatuated people ( according to you ) stop thinking that i am declaring / dictating some thing and think openly and discuss, > > You are putting this Mukta word again in the same basket with > Swatantrya/Swatantra. Thats why I termed this attitude as infatuation. > By putting Swatantrya/Swatantra and Mukta in the same basket, you are > unconsciously trying to prove that they are one and the same. What I am > pressing is forget about the term 'Mukta' when you want to define or express > free software and use Swatantrya/Swatantra. > > >> --and many are saying ok for using ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ >> > > Self-declaration ! > re-read your reply , you also accepted that ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯ is fine ..... >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> network mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > network mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in > >
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