you scare me man   thinking that you are design aircraft components and dont
know how to use the progam     I think you better fligt test it

Mike Reagan
EDSI


----- Original Message -----
From: Robison Michael R CNIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] keepoutlayer and planes ??


> thanks to everyone that posted on this.  i understand
> now.  it would have been inconceivably horrible if we
> had built and sold off on defective boards.  these parts
> go in navy planes.  and they could have very possibly
> passed functional testing and then started failing left
> and right once the planes started vibrating them around.
> thank god i don't design suspension bridges.  ;-)
>
> there's irony there, i guess...  you spend so much time
> sweating the details and then you let some big gaping
> bug in the design slip right past you.
>
> thanks again, miker
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 5:00 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] keepoutlayer and planes ??
>
>
> technically and to be pedantic you should say Place Line (not track)
> Dennis Saputelli
>
> Ian Wilson wrote:
> >
> > On 03:29 PM 8/11/2001 -0500, Robison Michael R CNIN said:
> > >hello,
> > >
> > >my questions:
> > >
> > >1.  the dark green i'm seeing represents the "negative", or holes, in
the
> > >power plane, correct?
> >
> > Correct
> >
> > >2.  after simply drawing the keepoutlayer back in, i am not seeing the
> > >dark green power plane void outside the keepoutlayer.  does this mean
> > >that i still have the power plane running right to the board edge?
> >
> > Keepout does not affect planes.
> >
> > >3.  without a keepoutlayer do the planes extend right to the board
edge?
> >
> > With or without the keepout - Yes, planes extend to the edge.
> >
> > >4.  how do i recess the power and ground planes back in a few mils on
> > >this board?
> >
> > Use tracks on the plane layer.  The simplest method is to use select all
> > the board outline tracks and the use the Paste Special to paste onto the
> > current layer, changing the layer to each of the plane layers and
> > pasting.  Then de-select all the tracks on the board outline layer,
> leaving
> > only the tracks on the plane layers selected, and then globally change
the
> > selected track widths to double your backoff - so a 50 mil track gives a
> 25
> > mil backoff. You can go a bit higher but usually not necessary.
> >
> > >5.  can i visibly see the planes recessed back from the card edge in
> protel
> > >or do i need to generate gerbers and use camtastic to do that?
> >
> > Yes see point 4)
> >
> > Ian Wilson
>
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