Sorry to reply to my own post, but I am just emphasizing the need to
independently archive the Protel service packs.  As a test, I just tried to
fetch them from the archive site http://www.archive.org/ and got Protel's
on-screen form you fill out to get download priviledges.  I knew it wouldn't
work, but tried it anyway, and sure enough got the error message "You are
not authorized to view this page".  These download forms and scripts won't
work across domains.

Gentlemen, start your archiving!

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure


> Thanks for the link.  The only problem I see with this archive website is
> that it has too visible a presence.  If Altium told them to get rid of any
> copyrighted materials with a Protel copyright, they would have to do so or
> face legal wrangling.  And I wonder if they have the service packs.  Even
if
> the "fair use" part of copyright law protects the archive's right to store
> text information, I doubt that it extends to software service packs.  Not
> too long ago, a Protel user of v3.X was able to receive the service packs
> from another user on this forum, even though Protel was no longer making
it
> available for download.  If Protel won't support their old releases with
> downloadable patches, we will have to take matters into our own hands.
>
> So, I think we still need some folks from this list to archive the Protel
> stuff independently (and discreetly).
>
> Best regards,
> Ivan Baggett
> Bagotronix Inc.
> website:  www.bagotronix.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hutchinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Total Support Brochure
>
>
> > It's already been done in a big way!
> >
> > Check out http://www.archive.org/ a lot all of the web is archived going
> > back to 1996.
> >
> > I just looked and Protel's various sites are archived back to December
> 1996
> > including the PDF manuals.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > > Maybe someone on this list should archive Protel's website content
right
> > now
> > > before they yank it.  Any volunteers?  I can't do it, all I have is a
> > lousy
> > > POTS Internet connection (no affordable broadband in Tallahassee).


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