Brad, While I too have tried 50 times to reconstruct the select PAD instead of the select COMPONENT without double clicking (which brings up the dialogue box), and not been able to do it, I am not convinced that under certain circumstances in certain modes it cannot happen.
I have stared and stared at the EDIT > SELECT menu and tried to do it with several different SELECT or DESELECT commands, and I have never gotten the PAD as opposed to the COMPONENT, but unless I looked at the code for all of the modes, I wouldn't bet on it. As a side note, but basically the same topic, I have two additional comments. 1. Several times when I am zipping thru cleaning stuff up, and changing TRACK sizes, I have unknowingly selected a PAD instead of a TRACK and keyed in the width (say 15 mils) and hit enter without realizing that it was a PAD rather than a TRACK, and that I have changed the PIN number of a PART (such as a 2 PIN resistor). The only way I have ever found this type of error was when I later updated the board again from the schematic (resyncronized), and seen it trying to change UXYZ PIN 15 to UXYZ PIN 2. Knowing that I have made these kinds of mistakes in the past, I always make it a point to do a final update before putting the design to rest. (I imagine you could also find it with a DRC CHECK). 2. One of the ways that I have found that I have moved a PAD of a COMPONENT, is by examining the pick and place file. Since most of my discrete COMPONENTS have the PADS located on a 1, 2, or 5 mil grid, the part should always end up on a center location on a grid location of either 1 mil or 0.5 mil, in the columns labeled MID X and MID Y (which give you the center location of the COMPONENT). So when a 2 or more place decimal number shows up in the MID X or MID Y column, I know that either the COMPONENT is of grid by some bizarre amount (usually as the result of a move that I screwed up) or I have moved one of the COMPONENT's PADS, which will usually give it a bizarre center point (most, but not all of the time). So here again, I will take a quick look at the pick and place file to look for any COMPONENTS that are off kilter before I finish the design. JaMi -----Original Message----- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 4:36 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after copy/paste/move processes. After re-reading some of the previous messages again, it seems that some people may be trying to suggest that clicking and dragging a component pad is possible on a component within a PCB (not a library). Does anybody want to expound on this? I have tried to do this 50+ times and I cannot accomplish this feat. All I get is an option to select primitives in the general area or the component itself, never once had the option of dragging a component pad! Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com See us at Booth S8155 at NAB 2002 in Las Vegas April 8 - 11. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 3:50 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Footprint pads moving during or after > copy/paste/move processes. > > > > This is scary. I generally click in the center of the component, as I > usually do NOT want to edit the pad, but the component. But, > sometimes, > especially when there is netlist trouble, I click on the pad > to see the net > name > more clearly than the way it is drawn over the pad. Scary to > think you can > > move the pad with a bobble on the mouse button! > > Jon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://email@example.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *