Well they (we) should help change the "perception" of bloatware. If I were to see an app take 150KB instead of 300MB and it did everything I spec'ed, I'd be AMAZED at the fact it was done. I wouldn't complain that the code didn't occupy a CD as opposed to a floppy. If what you say is true in some sectors, then I think it is absurd and anyone hiring based on code size and not functionality is an idiot.
If P99SE was one exe file that fit on a floppy, I would bow toward the southern hemisphere every day at 2PM in awe of their talent. :) Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 12:41 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] bloat WAS: OS bugs > > > Tony, the companies you SHOULD be avoiding are the ones that > produce bloated > code, give you no clue that the code is bloated, and give you no option to > avoid it. I think there may be another reason PowerBasic has the "option" > to produce bloated code. Imagine this: you are a contract > programmer (like > many of PowerBasic's users). You hand your customer the completed custom > program (i.e. a custom MRP system) they hired you to write. When you hand > them a floppy, they say "Wait a minute, we paid you $$$$$ to write a big > fancy program for us. And all we get is one floppy of software > for it? You > are ripping us off! We should get at a CD full of software for what we > paid!" > > It's a perception thing. And nowadays, perception IS reality...until the > stock value tanks. > > Now, I am not a contract programmer (I just play one on TV...). > However, I > do write code for embedded systems. So I know how to write non-bloated > code. I just can't see where a lot of this bloatware is > necessary (600MB of > disk space for a word processor, give me a break). PowerBasic is > proud that > they can produce SMALL programs, and just to show off (and help contract > programmers) they create the #BLOAT function. > > I wonder how Delphi and the next Protel version will compare in the bloat > wars? Like I said before, it better run in 512MB RAM on my dual-PIII, > because that machine WILL NOT be replaced for at least 3 more years. > > Best regards, > Ivan Baggett > Bagotronix Inc. > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate > function. > > > > Damn! I emailed the company and asked... oh see for yourself: > > > > > > > > >Because we're proud of it. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Tim > > > > > > > > >At 09:20 AM 7/8/02 -0700, you wrote: > > >>Why in the world would you add this, much less call it a "feature?" > > >> > > >>#BLOAT nexp allows the programmer to create a bloated target program, > one > > >>which is artificially increased in size to match or exceed that > generated > > by > > >>some BloatWare compilers. > > > > > > > > They are "proud" to add to the problem. GREAT!!! I think I'll stay away > from > > THAT company. > > > > Tony > > > > ************************************************************************ > * Tracking #: 87A6E7CCB2799C4183F56FB07E2F0237139162F6 > * > ************************************************************************ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
