[CTRL] CARA DEFEATED IN SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE

2000-04-02 Thread lloyd

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Subject: CARA  DEFEATED  IN  SENATE  BUDGET  COMMITTEE
Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 10:55 PM

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SENATORS  GORTON  AND  DOMENICI  STOP  CARA  LAND  GRAB  IN  COMMITTEE!!!

Yesterday, Thursday March 30, property rights advocates won a great victory
in the Senate Budget Committee.  An amendment to include funds for the pork
barrel land grab Conservation and Reinvestment Act (CARA) was defeated by a
13 to 9 vote.

Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) introduced the amendment to include CARA in the
plans for the Senate's budget blueprint.  The amendment advocated creation
of a separate trust fund, exempt from the annual appropriations process, so
federal and state governments can spend over one billion dollars per year
to
grab land.  He was joined by Senators Sarbanes (D-MD) and Boxer (D-CA).

Senator Slade Gorton (R-WA) stopped this land grab by introducing a
substitute amendment.  It stated that any funds for land acquisition should
come from regular appropriations, and not a trust fund.  He was joined by
Senator Pete Domenici (R-NM).

Gorton's substitute amendment against CARA was approved by a vote of 13 to
9, stopping Senator Johnson from further attempts at land grabbing in
committee.

Here is the roll call vote.  If you live in any of these states, please
give
these Senators the credit they deserve!

YES - FOR  THE  GORTON  SUBSTITUTE  AMENDMENT  FOR  PRIVATE  PROPERTY
 RIGHTS

Domenici (R-NM)
Grassley (R-IA)
Nickles (R-OK)
Gramm (R-MN)
Bond (R-MO)
Gorton (R-WA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Snowe (R-ME)
Abraham (R-MI)
Frist (R-TN)
Grams (R-MN)
Smith (R-OR)
Conrad (D-ND)

NO - AGAINST  GORTON  SUBSTITUTE  AMENDMENT  AGAINST  PRIVATE  PROPERTY
 RIGHTS

Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Hollings (D-SC)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Boxer (D-CA)
Murray (D-WA)
Wyden (D-OR)
Feingold (D-WI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Durbin (D-IL)

***  ALERT!!!  ***  NEXT  BATTLE!!!  ***

PRO-CARA  AMENDMENT  PLANNED  FOR  SENATE  FLOOR  NEXT  WEEK

The same amendment that was defeated yesterday will almost certainly be
introduced on the Senate floor next week, when the full Senate takes up the
Budget resolution.

Once again, Senator Slade Gorton will be fighting for your private property
rights, but he needs your help to stop Senator Johnson and the other land
grabbers.  Call and fax both of your Senators immediately.  Email may be
too slow!!

Here's what you must do:

1. Call both of your Senators at the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121.
 Ask them to oppose any Budget Committee Amendment that would authorize $3
billion for CARA or Lands Legacy.  What this will really mean is $45
billion over 15 years.

2.  Ask your Senator if you can send him or her a fax.  Get their current
fax number and share it with your friends.

3.  Resend this message to at least five other people.

4.  Give a photocopy of this email to 5 other people who may not have
email.

If you call and fax your Senators you will win again!!!



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[CTRL] Web Site (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread William Bacon

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visit my web site at  www.voicenet.com/~wbacon

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I ran across this web site on a Bilderberger's search. This is a large
site, could any list member(s) who have some time take a look at it. With
just a quick browse I can see ideas the majority might agree with and others
they wouldn't. The Bilderberder's turn up on "The Architecture of Modern
Political Power" page. Has anyone heard of Daniel Pouzzner before?




http://www.mega.nu:8080


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Re: [CTRL] NYP: ANOTHER CRIME FROM AMERICA'S TOP OFFICER (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 04/01/2000 9:38:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was under the impression that e-mail technically belongs to the
 e-mail server/service that is being *used*, and does not belong
 to the sender or receiver??  And, I thought that when at work,
 your time and efforts belong to your employer (including E-mails
 generated there)??? 

I was not basically interested in e-mail.  I am questioning the ownership of
a personal letter.  Does a posted letter addressed to an individual belong to
the individual to do with as he  or she wishes, or is it the "privacy
protected" property of the writer?  That appears to be the issue in the
Clinton/what's her name case.  I'm worried about the precedent being set
here, since tomorrow a letter might be addressed to me from someone who is
threatening me, and I will be duty bound to protect his or her privacy and
unable to use the letter in court, or possibly even to show it to the police.
 What makes life fun for Clinton bashers might make life intolerable for the
rest of us.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] CARA DEFEATED IN SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE

2000-04-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 04/02/2000 5:15:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 Senator Slade Gorton (R-WA) stopped this land grab by introducing a
 substitute amendment. 

Slade Gorton, an acknowledged hero.  Let's see, he's the guy that loved it
when the police cuffed the environmental protesters who went to his local
office and then forced open their eyes and sprayed pepper spray into them.
Nice guy, Slade Gorton.  The kind of guy you all should welcome into the
family.  Something really weird about the company you like.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Jim Condit Jr

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Hey Nurev --- Your answers to F.W. Poley read with a hint of a Jewish
rascist and supremist. Have you every criticized anything Jewish on this
list? Do you object to the fact that in Israel the Jews have blue licence
plates on their cars, and the Arabs are forced to have yellow (or maybe the
color scheme is different, but you get the point)? Or is "blending the
races" just Jewish propaganda for every other people, but not for
themselves? Regarding Franklin's words which have been reported for at least
the last 50 years, and I believe were on public display at one point, if
they still aren't --- I don't need to listen to any "conspiracy theorists"
to see that anti-Christ pseudo-Zionist Jews like Cohen, Albright, Rubin,
Rubin, Berger, Emmanuel are dominating that federal government; that
anti-Christ Jews like Schumer dominate congress; that anti-Christ Jews like
Speilberg, Katzenberg, Eisner, Geffen, etc. etc. etc. dominate Hollywood,
the Major TV stations, and every major radio station in America. I see it
before my eyes and I don't like it. And I hope all decent Christians join me
in that, including and especially those of Jewish decent. Furthermore, I'm
expecting in my lifetime to see all these anti-Christ Jews exposed and
thrown from power -- No, dear Nurev -- I don't mean that in the way you're
hoping, I don't mean the neutralizing these political devils with the kind
of stupid, cruel persecution and murder that pseudo-Zionist Jews like Ben
Gurion and Chaim Weizman perpetrated against their own people (See Perfidy
by Jewish Hollywood Screen Writer Ben Hecht, available again from
Amazon.com, and the Transfer Agreement by Jewish Author Edwin Black) in
conjunction with the Warburg-backed Hitler Nazis (Hitler perhaps as much as
half-Jewish himself, see unintentional evidence provided by the newly
released book, Hitler's Vienna by Brigitte Hamann, starting on page 48,
published by Oxford Press, copyright 1999 and translated from the German,
and already a bestseller in Germany and Austria, now available in American
bookstores) -- I mean a simple exposure and removal from power by peaceful
means, leaving the wretches to live out their natural lives in obscurity
and/or opprobrium for their nefarious deeds, although truthfully some might
be put on trial for treason and be spending much of that time in prison --
if this country ever comes to it's senses.

Regarding Pope Pius XII and your insinuation that he was "complicit in evil"
during WWII, you might have to climb over these bodies before the get to
Pius XII: the New York Times, and the major radio stations and budding TV
stations (all Jewish owned, see Jewish Encyclopedia, or many other sources).
Why didn't these Jewish controlled publications decry what you're claiming
Pius XII ignored? Why did the New York Times PRAISE Pius XII on Christmas
day 1943, and 1944 -- check for yourself, although I stand correction on the
years -- it may have been 1942 and 1943 -- why did Albert Einstein praise
Pius XII and the Church for being the only force in Germany against
Hitler -- why did the chief Rabbi of Rome, I think his name was Zoli --
convert to Catholicism and take the name Eugenio in honor of Pius XII (whose
name was Eugenio Pacelli)?

Why, indeed, dear Nurev? Jim Condit Jr.

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  Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:42:53 -0800 (PST)
  From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: Teacher of YHVH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS
 
  From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Is there any discernable difference betweeen Pro-Christ and Anti-Christ
  Jews? If so, what is it?
  FWP
 

 Jeez Poley you're soo fu*king easy.


  On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Teacher of YHVH wrote:
 
   ANTI-CHRIST JEWS
  
  
 --
 --
  
   There are a lot of Christians who are so "wishy washy" they
 are afraid of their shadow. They don't believe Christians should
 be militant for their faith. They can't or won't understand the
 meaning of Hebrews 12:4, where it says: "Ye have not resisted
 unto death, striving against sin." (That word "sin means
 "unrighteousness.") They turn their backs on the fact that God
 declares we are His Battleaxe.(Jeremiah 51:20). It is the
 Christians duty to take a stand against evil, not to  support
 and coddle it!

 Right, history is replete with examples of Christian stands
 against evil. 

[CTRL] Cong. Steve Largent: Moron

2000-04-02 Thread Jim Condit Jr

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I was had some hope in Cong. Steve Largent, I can't remember why. I just
watched him on Sunday morning FOX news show talking like a moron about
sending Eliot Gonzales back to Castro for brainwashing, based on his
perverted phony-Ralph Reed/Pat Robertson/ Jerry Falwell Ruling Elite
pseudo-Christianity. ...

Ruling Elite mouthpieces Cokie Roberts (how disgusting of a New World Order
shill she is!) and Sam Donaldson -- asked an Elian lawyer 5 different ways
how can he best help to pave the way for handing Elian back to Castro, and
how can he try and stop the community from forming a human shield around
Elian to prevent the New World Order Gestapo from coming to send Elian back
to his assigned province in the New World Order. (Incidentally, ABC is
releasing its phony polls again -- claiming on the same show that 59% of
"the people" want Elian to go back to Cuba, -- but that, due to the election
year, Al Gore has to pander to the people who want to keep Elian in
America!!! How dumb do they think we are? Do you really think Al Gore,
who is no doubt totally in sympathy with his fellow Bolsheviks Clinton and
Castro on sending Elian back to Cuba, would be pandering to the "keep Elian
in America" crowd if it was just a few thousands Cuban-Americans in
Florida Hades, NO! THese network execs and anchors should be put in jail
for releasing phony polls like this.

Thank God for the Americans of Cuban descent in Florida and Mayors who have
announced that the surrounding police departments will not help that group
of unindicted felons known as the Clinton Administration send Elian back to
Communism. We'll see if "Alice the Goon" Reno dares play with another WACO
over this issue. Jim Condit Jr.

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[CTRL] Enthogens And Gods

2000-04-02 Thread William Shannon

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Classical Deities Derived from Personified Prehistoric Mushrooms
ARTEMIS OF EPHESUS

Over tens of millennia, the features of personified entheogenic mushrooms,
which artists had begun creating in the Upper Paleolithic period, were
morphed by the artists of various cultures as each culture's poets, priests
and rulers imbued those deities with different traits, associations and
escapades. For instance, the figure on the left depicts a reproduction of the
statue of the Roman goddess Artemis standing in her sanctuary in the once
Ionian Greek, but now Turkish, city of Ephesus clothed in a dress with
numerous swellings.

Prior to my having identified many prehistoric anthropoid figurines as
personified mushrooms, I would have assumed, as many scholars and laymen
have, that the plain swellings on the dress' bodice were intended to
represent, for some reason, a multitude of breasts, but that the swellings on
the dress' skirt were intended to be different, strictly decorative,
structures. However, after comparing the statue's dress to the pocked
surfaces of the many prehistoric figurines, like the one on the left in Fig.
14, which I had by then identified as personified A. muscariae, it was
readily apparent that all the swellings on Artemis' dress were intended to
personify studs on the surface of a developing A. muscaria.

More specifically, comparing the dress' raised, striated neckline to the
continuous rings left on the upper stems of many A. muscariae by their
ruptured partial veils ( adjacent figure, left),  I could infer that the
dress' neckline was designed to personify such a ring. And, by comparing the
statue's bent arms to the discontinuous rings that are left on the upper
stems of other mature A. muscariae by their ruptured partial veils, such as
the one on the right in the same figure, I could infer that the statue's bent
arms had been sculpted to personify a discontinuous ring.

It was then no longer surprising that Artemis' name had been derived from the
Greek word tmesis for a cutting, or plant part that grows into a new plant,
as the Neoplatonist philosopher Porhyry had inferred.1 An ancient Greek
wordsmith had evidently personified the A.muscaria as a cutting using tmesis,
because the A. muscaria was considered a part which sprang from its arboreal
host with the ability to grow into a new plant, just as Vedic priests
regarded Soma as a shoot or amsu.

Contrary to Porphyry's belief that Ar- was derived from the Greek stem aer-
for air, and that Artemis thus meant "cutting the air", it is more likely
that Ar- was derived from the Greek root arg- for the luminous moon. This
parallels the finding that the name of the Hindu deity Soma, which Wasson
recognized as a personified A. muscaria, had been derived from the identical
Sanskrit word for moon. The reasons for this naming convention is that A.
muscariae emerge from spherical, white bioluminescent primordia, like the one
in Figure, and prehistoric wordsmiths, artists and mytho-poets metaphorized
that primordium as a little moon.

Artemis was therefore also intimately associated with the night, with trees
and with the forest, in general. Moreover, she was intimately associated with
bears and bees. But to understand why the following dialogue between
Entheogenas and Aneist, the brother of Aeneas, is of interest:

ENTHEOGENAS AND ANEIST: ON THE ORIGINS AND SIGNIFICANCE OF ARTEMIS

Entheogenas: And what is it, dear Entheogenas that bees and bears have in
common?

Aneist: Why it is honey, of course, dear Entheogenas.

Entheogenas: Correct, Entheogenas. They both have a fondness for honey. And
honey is what?

Aneist: Why that it is easy, too, Entheogenas. It is a sweet, golden liquid.

Entheogenas: Right, dear Entheogenas. And honey is often used for what?

Aneist: Well, Entheogenas. It is used to sweeten things.

Entheogenas: And where is honey found, dear Entheogenas.?

Aneist: Ha! Now, you are mocking me, Entheogenas. Any schoolboy knows honey
is found in hives.

Entheogenas: Right again, Entheogenas. And where are hives usually found.

Aneist: Well, they can be found anywhere. But they often hang from tree limbs

Entheogenas: Yes. That is correct again. And what do these hives look like?

Aneist: Well, Entheogenas, they can have different shapes. But generally they
are white, bulbous, somewhat conically shaped, structures with many ridges
and depressions.

Entheogenas: You are correct again, Entheogenas. So, now let us see what we
have so far,: we have bears and bees seeking hives filled with honey.

Aneist: That is correct, dear Entheogenas.

Entheogenas: Now, dear Entheogenas, you know that we tell children storks
bring babies, and the children believe us until they begin to see that the
story was designed to prevent them from learning about something we don't
think they should know about.

Aneist: Yes, I know that, Entheogenas.

Entheogenas: And you also know that here in Greece and 

[CTRL] [LeftLibertarian] Great snappy comeback

2000-04-02 Thread lloyd

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Subject: [LeftLibertarian] Great snappy comeback
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 12:24 PM

From: "J. Kent Hastings" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From the Nevada Republican Liberty Caucus
"The Conscience of the Republican Party"
Chuck Muth, Chairman  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hitting 'Em Where They Breathe

"'I recently received your request for contributions,' David Rollo writes in
a letter to House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R). 'I would really like to
contribute to these noble efforts, but am unable to at this time due to the
recent increase in gasoline prices.  I was greatly dismayed to learn through
numerous media sources that my Republican Party did not believe in repealing
the 'Clinton Gas Tax' since it was 'so small and would not make a big
difference' to most American families.  I am sure you will understand when I
inform you that I was planning on contributing the minimum of 'even $25' you
requested until I applied your logic and realized this amount is so small it
won't make a big difference in your efforts.'"

- John McCaslin's "Inside the Beltway," 3/28/00

Fwd by Kent

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1

2000-04-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000402a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ All The Damn News: http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://wired.com
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# ALIEN IN CALIFORNIA: A three-foot tall pilot of a flying saucer from
  another planet has been kept alive in an incubator room in the state
  of California for two years, and progress is being made in efforts
  to communicate with him: http://www.sightings.com/general/ufonew.htm

@ Have blood cells ever been found in dinosaur fossils? Actual red blood
  cells in fossil bones from a Tyrannosaurus rex? With traces of the blood
  protein hemoglobin (which makes blood red and carries oxygen)? It sounds
  preposterous -- to those who believe that these dinosaur remains are at
  least 65 million years old. It is of course much less of a surprise to
  those who believe Genesis, in which case dinosaur remains are at most only
  a few thousand years old. http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c026.html

: Have you stored any aliens/dinosaurs/spirits/cretinists lately? Do aliens/
dinos/cretinists have red/yellow/blue/fluorescent blood? Have you checked'em
all? Do they talk to you? Are they recalcitrant research subject? D'ya fret?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Second Enormous Iceberg Breaks Off From Antarctica. WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
  A second giant iceberg has broken off from Antarctica and is bumping into
  a huge iceberg that broke off the Ross Ice Shelf last week. Expect worst:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2331/ts/environment_iceberg_1.html

# New Weather Modification Research Papers - The use of satellites, HAARP
   microwave frequencies to manipulate and control severe weather patterns
  is Science reality. Believe it: http://www.sightings.com/general/neww.htm

: Have aliens started melting your planet's icecaps lately? Do they utilize
heat rays, greenhouse effects, solar flares, tectonic activity, all of the
above? Have you fought back against weather modification / global warming?
What's the best way to keep ice sheets intact? Have you tries SuperGlue??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Crowd-control cookery: Microwaves among new non-lethal weapons. WASHINGTON
  (Gannett) In Seattle, unruly demonstrators disrupting WTO talks clashed
  with police. Halfway around the world in Kosovo, U.S. peacekeepers faced
  stone-throwing mobs. Gunfire as a response in either case would have been
  disastrous - and wasn't used. Police and soldiers in both confrontations
  had at their disposal a new, and some say controversial, arsenal designed
  to sting, stun, entrap, immobilize, sicken, knock the wind from - but not
  kill - assailants, suspects, agitators or enemies they are used against.
  http://www.seattletimes.com/news/nation-world/html98/weap01_2401.html

# Arab health ministers forbid human cloning, launch anti-smoking campaigns
  and call for a comprehensive strategy to fight AIDS and drug use. No word
  on punishment amputations: http://vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=75812

: Does your conspiracy control/manipulate/influence human thought/behavior/
feelings? Do the microwaves you use for crowd-control also contribute to the
global warming? Does AIDS result from your manipulations? Are clones easier/
harder to control than normal humans? Have you cloned any smokers lately??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SATANIC MURDER SHOCKS ARGENTINA. BUENOS AIRES (CWNews.com) - The brutal
  murder of a 50-year-old father at the hand of his two young daughters as
  part of a satanic rite has shocked Argentine society and raised concern
  about the proliferation of satanic and other cults in Buenos Aires. As
  well it might: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48600

# CHICAGO PRIEST PAYS PROSTITUTES TO LISTEN TO GOSPEL:
  http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48601
# COLOMBIAN NUN INVESTIGATED IN MURDER OF FELLOW NUN:
  http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48582
# 31-Mar-00: "LOVE AND LIFE" TEAM GIVE POPE BICYCLE:
  http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=48603

: What's your favorite cult/sect/faction/denomination/religion/philosophy?
How does your sect recruit/eliminate members; reward your leaders; stay in
top physical/mental/spiritual/emotional/financial condition? Are you happy?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UK AIDED US INDUSTRIAL SPIES? Britain came under unprecedented pressure
  from its European partners to reveal the extent of its involvement in a
  US-led spying network said to be used for industrial espionage. Bother.
  

Re: [CTRL] NYP: ANOTHER CRIME FROM AMERICA'S TOP OFFICER (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread K

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On 2 Apr 2000, at 8:20, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:

 I'm worried
about the precedent being set here, since tomorrow a letter might
be
addressed to me from someone who is threatening me,
and I will be duty
bound to protect his or her privacy and unable to use the letter in
court, or possibly even to show it to the police.

Sending threats by mail is a crime and I believe this would take
precedence over the intellectual property laws.

--
Kathleen

By definition, a government has no conscience.
Sometimes it has a policy, but nothing more.
-- Albert Camus

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Re: [CTRL] White House protected ecoterrorists

2000-04-02 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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Okay, so we are now going to tar *all* environmental activists with the
label "eco-terrorist" fnord. Look, people, there are those of us who
really do believe that it is NOT all right to clearcut old-growth forest in
the name of profit, prosperity, and the Amurrican developer. And a very good
case can be made (see, e.g., last fall's thread on the "anarchist" actions
in Seattle) that destruction of property is justified when that property is
itself used to destroy the natural environment. [BTW, I *don't* agree with
that...I feel that such actions merely feed into the schemes of the
Oligarchy. However, I must respect and honor the people who *do* espouse
such an approach.] If the White House acted to protect the right of American
citizens to exercise their First Amendment rights in the face of opposition
from the corporate elite and their lackeys, so much the better.

At the risk of opening myself to the flames for which certain members of
this list are infamous, I might even suggest that it was Clinton
administration actions such as the ones attacked in this post that lay
behind the impeachment drive. I strongly suspect that the Republican bosses
and their masters could have cared less about how many women Bill Clinton
fondled. What mattered to them was that he potentially posed a serious
threat to their self-defined "right" to exploit whatever they feel like
exploiting, all for the sake of the Divine Market. ("Potentially,"
because--as we have seen--Bill Clinton is no less an agent of the New
Globalism. But at the moment, we're considering what the Republicans
*thought* he intended, not what he *actually* intended.)

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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 4:42 PM
Subject: [CTRL] White House protected ecoterrorists


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  http://www.heartland.org/environment/feb00/ecoterror.htm

 Environment  Climate News -- February 2000
  -

  Feds protected ecoterrorists, report says

 by Gretchen Randall

  -

  A House Resource Committee task force assigned three years ago to
  investigate eco-terrorist activity at a timber site in Oregon has
  issued an interim report that paints a disturbing picture of
  aiding and abetting by top Clinton-Gore administration officials.

snip

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Re: [CTRL] EXECUTION STATS BY YR. STATE

2000-04-02 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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Alfred, what's your source for these stats? I'm not questioning them, but I
*would* like to be able to document them.

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 Execution Statistics Summary --
 State and Year (as of 4/1/00)

snip

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Re: [CTRL] White House protected ecoterrorists

2000-04-02 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 4/2/00 11:24:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At the risk of opening myself to the flames for which certain members of
 this list are infamous, I might even suggest that it was Clinton
 administration actions such as the ones attacked in this post that lay
 behind the impeachment drive. I strongly suspect that the Republican bosses
 and their masters could have cared less about how many women Bill Clinton
 fondled. What mattered to them was that he potentially posed a serious
 threat to their self-defined "right" to exploit whatever they feel like
 exploiting, all for the sake of the Divine Market 


I think you're absolutely correct!
Bill.

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[CTRL] The Naked Rise Of Communism

2000-04-02 Thread ThePiedPiper

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has anyone read "The Naked Rise Of Communism"
by Frank L. Kluckhohn
(c)1962 published by Monarch Books, Inc.
of Derby, Connecticut
286 pages

I found the book April 1st 2000
at a garage sale, right after I
posted Robotic Disopline and it seems
to fill in some parts about Communism
that I did not know.  I am on p24 now
but programming homework calls.

If anyone has read this book will
you please tell me your impressions?
Thank You
ThePiedPiper

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[CTRL] the untold story of Britain's role in the slave trade - and its legacy.

2000-04-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.channel4.com/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/untold/"Channel 4 Television -
Untold/A
-

© National Museums  Galleries on Merseyside
A series that tells the untold story of Britain's role in the slave trade -
and its legacy.
This series reveals the British in denial of a key fact in their history -
the contribution made by slavery to British civilisation. It also challenges
the view that the arrival of Afro-Caribbeans in Britain began with the
docking of the SS Empire Windrush  in 1948.

Three hundred years of trading in African slaves allowed Britain to become a
world economic power and financed the Industrial Revolution. In fact, many
high street banks and businesses - Lloyds insurance market, Imperial Tobacco,
the Midland Bank and more - grew out of slave labour and slave dealing.

A great deal of British heritage and culture was actually built on the back
of slave labour. Many stately homes were the glittering rewards of nouveau
riche plantation 'millionaires'. Art collecting and ostentatious philanthropy
both became ways in which slave dealers and exploiters of slave labour could
buy their way into the aristocracy.

Twenty thousand black slaves, brought to England from the 1640s onwards, have
disappeared from the historical records and sometimes even from their
families' memories. Britain's Slave Trade  traces their descendants.

Boadcast: Channel 4 -
-
Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2

2000-04-02 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 000402b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ Yada yada yada: http://208.138.18.130/cgi-bin/ad_center/getimage.cgi/318?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Magnetic Fields Hold Key To Malaria Treatment - could prove revolutionary
  in controlling disease: http://eurekalert.com/releases/uwsh-mfm033000.html
  (Note - This is another example of electromagnetic medicine beginning to
  emerge from nearly 100 years of enforced oblivion at the hands of the evil
  medical-pharmaceutical cartel. http://www.sightings.com/general/mag.htm )

# Getting warm: Heat treatment works on tumours - burning your way to better
  health: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_696000/696242.stm
# 55% Of Americans Overweight - 23% Are Obese - fattening-up for harvesting
  by Reptilioids? Who's rewarded? http://www.msnbc.com/news/380705.asp?cp1=1

: Would you rather be treated with drugs, surgery, magnets, Xrays, heatbeams
or prayer? Have your lifestyle  behaviour contributed to your medical woes?
Do cartels control your health? Are you succulent enough to devour yet? Eh?

# Virus worry - "I didn't know if surgeon had infected me" - or on whose
  orders: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_695000/695985.stm
@ Operation Raindance - Hanta Virus: www.rumormillnews.com/archive/43098.txt
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Bishop called followers to prayer - Leader told members 'they would go and
  see Jesus' http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2401/ts/uganda_cult_3.html
# Cult mastermind still alive - Witnesses portray woman as greedy religious
  huckster - what else is new? http://foxnews.com/world/040100/uganda.sml

# Test analysis to delay trial in Branch Davidian suit. DALLAS - The federal
  wrongful-death case arising from the Branch Davidian siege will be delayed
  until mid-June to allow more time to study results from a field test aimed
  at determining whether govt agents fired at the end of the 1993 incident.
  Stalling tactics? http://dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/57450_WACO31.html

: What's your favorite doomsday cult? Has your sect slaughtered many of its
own members or others lately? D'ya prefer fire, bullets, poison gas/pudding/
koolade, impalement, McFood? Is killing believers good population control??

@ For some, only genuine questions have answers. But the trouble with
  questions is precisely the need for answers. Do you prefer questions
  or answers? http://www.threepennyreview.com/samples/phillips_sp00.html
@ Isis Unveiled  Forged Christianity: http://apollonius.net/wheless.html
@ The Official Website Of Zecharia Sitchin: http://www.sitchin.com/
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Cockroaches plague G8 summit. Fast-breeding giant cockroaches reportedly
  threaten to plague world leaders at a Group of Eight summit to be held in
  Japan. It said the pests were breeding at an accelerated rate, threatening
  to overrun the G8 summit in Nago on Japan's southern island of Okinawa
  from July 21-23. http://www.abc.net.au/ra/newsdaily/rael-2apr2000-3.htm

# NATO Kosovo plan leaked on Net - Document on computer in publishing firm:
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001612468322797pg=/et/00/4/2/nato02.html
# NSA seeks to balance security, privacy - wants 'global key infrastructure'
  for crypto users: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35331,00.html

: Have you disrupted/empowered/manipulated any (inter)national agencies lat-
ely? Do you engage in biological/informational/artistic warfare? Is it fun?

@ Malthus was wrong. Though populations may grow faster than food supplies,
  ideas can grow even faster -- and they create endless resources. Most of
  us aren't starving: http://nationalinterest.org/issues/59/Baileyextr.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SURVEY: NASA WORKERS AMONG MOST SATISFIED FEDS. Federal workers who help
  explore space or protect the environment are among the most satisfied with
  their jobs, while those who enforce immigration and food safety rules are
  the least happy. http://CNN.com/2000/TECH/space/03/31/federalworkers.ap/

# Art Bell Announces Retirement From Radio:
  http://www.sightings.com/general/artretires.htm
# Japan's PM Obuchi Hospitalized From Overwork:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2402/wl/japan_obuchi_4.html
@ Chock-full of teenage angst it's... i am not a goth:
  http://www.darksites.com/souls/pagan/rants/

: Are you happy with your work? Are your alien/Illuminati/CIA masters happy?
Will they ever let you go? Do they use mind-control rays to keep people at
their jobs? Who controls the 

Re: [CTRL] Israeli Apartheid Approach Showing Cracks (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Peter Vit

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Prudy... Prudy

I think you should come and visit the "Holy Land" and see by
yourself. The reality looks a bit different than your demagogic
reply.

I don't say everything is perfect here. It's far from the truth. But
it's much easier to be an Arab in Israel than an African American in
certain places in USA.

Take care


Peter

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[CTRL] Israel's Racist Bio-War

2000-04-02 Thread William Shannon

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From the London Times
November 15 1998
Israel planning 'ethnic' bomb as Saddam caves in
by Uzi Mahnaimi  and Marie Colvin

ISRAEL is working on a biological weapon that would harm
Arabs but not Jews, according to Israeli military and
western intelligence sources. The weapon, targeting
victims by ethnic origin, is seen as Israel's response
to Iraq's threat of chemical and biological attacks.
Yesterday Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi leader, backed away
from the brink of war and agreed to resume co-operation
with the inspection teams seeking his suspected chemical
and biological weapons plants.

Kofi Annan, the United Nation secretary-general, said he
believed Iraq had met UN requirements. As Britain and
America stood by to bomb Saddam, however, Tony Blair's
office said compliance must be unconditional.

The White House, which is threatening Iraq with the
biggest onslaught since the Gulf war, said President
Bill Clinton's advisers were assessing whether Iraq's
offer was adequate. The Pentagon is ready to bomb within
days.

Last week Downing Street warned Labour MPs that Saddam
could be only weeks away from completing the
construction of offensive biological weapons mounted on
Scud missiles. Israel was hit by Scuds during the Gulf
war and fears it would be the prime target.

In developing their "ethno-bomb", Israeli scientists are
trying to exploit medical advances by identifying
distinctive genes carried by some Arabs, then create a
genetically modified bacterium or virus.
The intention is to use the ability of viruses and
certain bacteria to alter the DNA inside their host's
living cells. The scientists are trying to engineer
deadly micro-organisms that attack only those bearing
the distinctive genes.

The programme is based at the biological institute in
Nes Tziyona, the main research facility for Israel's
clandestine arsenal of chemical and biological weapons.
A scientist there said the task was hugely complicated
because both Arabs and Jews are of semitic origin. But
he added: "They have, however, succeeded in pinpointing
a particular characteristic in the genetic profile of
certain Arab communities, particularly the Iraqi
people." The disease could be spread by spraying the
organisms into the air or putting them in water
supplies.

The research mirrors biological studies conducted by
South African scientists during the apartheid era and
revealed in testimony before the truth and
reconciliation commission.

The idea of a Jewish state conducting such research has
already provoked outrage in some quarters because of
parallels with the genetic experiments of Dr Josef
Mengele, the Nazi scientist at Auschwitz.

Dedi Zucker, a member of knesset, the Israeli
parliament, denounced the research yesterday. "Morally,
based on our history, and our tradition and our
experience, such a weapon is monstrous and should be
denied," he said.

Some experts said that although the concept of an
ethnically targeted weapon was feasible, the practical
aspects of creating one were enormous.
Dr Daan Goosen, head of a South African chemical and
biological warfare plant, said his team was ordered in
the 1980s to develop a "pigmentation weapon" to target
only black people. He said the team discussed spreading
a disease in beer, maize or even vaccinations but never
managed to develop one.

However, a confidential Pentagon report warned last year
that biological agents could be genetically engineered
to produce new lethal weapons. William Cohen, the
American defence secretary, revealed that he had
received reports of countries working to create "certain
types of pathogens that would be ethnic-specific". A
senior western intelligence source confirmed last week
that Israel was one of the countries Cohen had in mind.

The "ethno-bomb" claims have been given further credence
in Foreign Report, a Jane's publication that closely
monitors security and defence matters. It reports
unnamed South African sources as saying Israeli
scientists have used some of the South African research
in trying to develop an "ethnic bullet" against Arabs.
It also says Israelis discovered aspects of the Arab
genetic make-up by researching on "Jews of Arab origin,
especially Iraqis".

The British Medical Association has become so concerned
about the lethal potential of genetically based
biological weapons that it has opened an investigation,
which is due to report in January.
Dr Vivienne Nathanson, who organised the research, said:
"With an ethnically targeted weapon, you could even hit
groups within a population. The history of warfare, in
which many conflicts have an ethnic factor, shows us how
dangerous this could be."

Porton Down, Britain's biological defence establishment,
said last week that such weapons were theoretically
possible. "We have reached a point now where there is an
obvious need for an international convention to control
biological weapons," said a spokesman.
Additional reporting: 

[CTRL] GunSmoke

2000-04-02 Thread Alamaine

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Here's the article from freecongress.org (via NewsMax.Com) followed by my
comment to them about a phrase in the article.  The question becomes:  who'd
afraid of the lawsuits, the Americans' or the parent (non-American) companies?
I would venture a guess that Bill Jeff is taking lending his ear to some of his
Euro-Buddies.  This is like the 'banana wars':  DoJ sues the gun makers and
winds up p'ing off the Euros who really own the gun manufacturers (except for
Ruger).  The dough from any settlement comes out of Britland or Belgium or
Italy or Austria.  So, what do they do?  Put an embargo on gun shipments to /
close down the factories over here in the U.S. (hint:  that would be a good
time to buy Ruger stock)?  AER

{{Begin}}

NewsMax.com

CommentMax
Gun Manufacturer Fell for Smoke Screen
Lisa Dean March 28, 2000

There's a story that's been told before but bears repeating. It's the story of
a man who, while walking down a dirt path, encountered a snake that had somehow
been injured and pleaded with the man to help him.  The man shook his head and
said, "I'm not going to touch you. You're a snake and you'll bite me."

But the snake promised that he wouldn't bite him because he really needed his
help. So the man reached down, picked up the snake and proceeded to treat his
injuries when all of a sudden, the snake lashed out and bit him! Stunned, the
man exclaimed, "You promised that if I helped you that you wouldn't bite me and
you bit me anyway!"

To which the snake replied, "Why are you so surprised?  You knew very well what
I was when you picked me up."

Now, let's say the man in this story is actually United States gun
manufacturers and the snake is the Clinton administration. That being the case,
you should now have an accurate picture of what the latest story is on our
Second Amendment rights in America.

The Clinton Administration has been trying for years to strip Americans of
their constitutional right to own guns and little by little, have advanced
their cause. Instead of viewing tragedies such as Columbine and other shootings
of school children and innocent people as acts committed by mentally unstable
people heavily influenced by a godless, secular environment, this
administration used them to advance their gun-grabbing agenda.

The major media reported late last week that Smith and Wesson, by far the
largest and most well-known gun manufacturer in the United States, struck a
deal with the Clinton administration to allow them to continue manufacturing
guns. The deal is essentially ideal for an industry that fears the same
litigious treatment by the administration and the public with regard to guns
that's currently being endured by the tobacco industry regarding smoking.

The deal is this, in exchange for a promise by the administration granting the
company legal immunity and to avoid lawsuits filed by nearly 30 states, cities
and counties in an attempt by those governments to recover the losses incurred
through gun-related violence, Smith and Wesson will agree to alter the
manufacture of their guns.

The guns they manufacture will contain mandatory trigger locks so that while
the guns may look threatening, they are actually rendered useless. Also, Smith
and Wesson will ensure that background checks take place at both retail
establishments and gun shows, that smart gun technology is used so that every
gun has a so-called ballistic fingerprint in order for law enforcement to
easily detect which bullet was fired from which gun, as well as biometric
identification which will enable the gun to be fired only after recognizing the
shooter's fingerprint.

On March 22, it was reported that two other gun manufacturers -- Glock, located
in Austria, and Browning -- have both considered and rejected similar
settlements to the one made with Smith  Wesson, which puts a completely
different spin on the issue. While Smith  Wesson undoubtedly accepted the
administration's proposal out of fear of having to lose millions of dollars in
lawsuits, the other companies took a different approach. They heeded the advice
of the organizations, individuals and even their clientele, without whom, the
companies wouldn't be in business anyway.

So the question arises, what is likely to happen to Smith  Wesson? Aside from
getting a few days of good press, the company will get no benefit from this
deal at all. While it may have been granted immunity from legal action from
federal, state and local governments, they are still liable as individuals
still have the freedom to sue the industry.

Just look at the tobacco industry. It's getting slapped with more lawsuits
right now than it can handle, many from individuals who lost loved ones to lung
cancer and other smoking-related diseases.

Even if lawsuits weren't in the equation here, there is still no benefit. The
trigger lock technology alone is enough to encourage people to buy from Smith 
Wesson's competitors who 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [smashthestate] Salon.com] The Drug War Gravy Train

2000-04-02 Thread Bard

fyi, Bard

In the ripeness of his years, Thomas Jefferson wrote:

"The man who never looked into a newspaper is better informed than he who read them,
inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to the truth than he whose mind is filled
with half-truths and errors."

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[CTRL] Right To Life ...

2000-04-02 Thread Alamaine

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... isn't about all that reproductive organ stuff.  It's really about:

""In such a situation, what will happen to the right to life, as represented by
access to water for all persons and every human community?""

Oh, when you get started reading the below, you may notice that the solution to
two groups (WWC and GWP) who can't get in sync is to start a third element
(WCW4Y2K) of the bureaucracy.

AER

From http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/en/2000/03/12water

{{Begin}}
March 2000
BACK PAGE
Blue gold of the 21st century
Between 17 and 22 March the second World Water Forum will be meeting in the
Hague, organised by the Dutch government on the basis of an initiative by the
World Water Council (WWC), and including an international ministerial
conference. Such international initiatives are at least a start, since those in
charge of the world's water believe that water has to be treated as an economic
commodity. They argue that this is the only effective way to combat shortages
and rapidly rising prices. Water has become expensive, and it will be even more
expensive in the future, which will make it the "blue gold" of the 21st
century. To counter this grassroots mobilisation is urgently needed.
by RICCARDO PETRELLA*

Between 17 and 22 March the second World Water Forum will be meeting in the
Hague, organised by the Dutch government on the basis of an initiative by the
World Water Council (WWC), and including an international ministerial
conference. Several thousand people are expected to attend. The WWC was set up
in 1994, with the assistance of the World Bank, the governments of a number of
countries (including France, the Netherlands and Canada), and the private
sector (for instance the Suez-Lyonnaise des eaux group). In 1996 it gave itself
the task of drawing up a long-term "global vision for water" which might then
serve as a basis for analysis and for drafting a "global water policy". The
World Bank has been pushing such a policy in recent years (1), and has had the
agreement and collaboration of all the relevant organisations within the United
Nations. In order to achieve its objective, the World Bank has over more or
less the same period overseen the creation of a Global Water Partnership (GWP),
with the aim of encouraging closer relations between public authorities and
private investors.

Since the work of the WWC and the GWP has not been entirely satisfactory (not
least because of their lack of coordination), the World Commission on Water for
the 21st Century was set up in August 1998 to generate some urgency in arriving
at that much-debated "global vision". To this end the commission embarked on a
massive international consultation exercise towards a new version of "2020
Vision" (2), and instructed the GWP to accompany this "vision" with an
operational schema entitled "A Framework for Action". The "vision" and the
"framework" in question are to be presented at the Hague. The ministers
participating in the ministerial conference (at which more than 100 countries
will be represented) are expected to approve a declaration which should provide
legitimacy for a "global water policy" for the coming 15-20 years.

What we have seen during the 1990s has been the setting-up of a kind of global
high command for water. In formal terms the private sector is only represented
in these various structures by the president of Suez-Lyonnaise des eaux (as a
member of the commission) and by senior personnel from Vivendi-Générale des
eaux. However the presence of business and high finance interests is all-
pervasive in the shape of "experts" who in most cases have links with those
companies. Private capital is thus solidly entrenched at the heart of the
decision-making process.

What are the arguments and proposals that will be presented (and if possible
imposed) at the Hague? Judging by the provisional documents that have been made
available prior to the opening of discussions (3), they are of a piece with the
framework of global water policy that has been pursued since the early 1970s.
Three main principles provide the driving force: commodification, privatisation
and oligopolistic integration between the various sectors worldwide: drinking
water, bottled water, water treatment and purification, and soft drinks.  And
this all takes place in a context of struggles for market hegemony and power
struggles between national governments.
Blue gold of the 21st century

For those in charge of the world's water, water has to be treated as an
economic commodity. They argue that this is the only effective way to combat
shortages and rapidly rising prices. Water has become expensive, and it will be
even more expensive in the future, which will make it the "blue gold" of the
21st century. According to the draft ministerial statement, only the fixing of
a market price in line with total supply costs (the so-called "fair price")
will guarantee a balance between supply and 

[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Illuminati-Free Masonry

2000-04-02 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [endsecrecy] Illuminati-Free Masonry
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:56 PM

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wed 29 Mar 2000

. far and wide!

The following has been painstakingly transcribed from The Publishers
Introduction to the Americanist Classics Edition of the "PROOFS OF A
CONSPIRACY AGAINST ALL THE RELIGIONS AND GOVERNMENTS OF EUROPE, CARRIED ON
IN THE SECRET MEETING OF FREE MASONS, ILLUMINATI, AND READING SOCIETIES.
COLLECTED FROM GOOD AUTHORITIES, BY JOHN ROBISON, A. M. PROFESSOR OF NATURAL
PHILOSPHY, AND SECRETARY TO THE ROYAL SOCIETY OF EDINBURGH.  Nam tua res
agitur paties cum proximus ardet.  THE FOURTH EDITION, TO WHICH IS ADDED, A
POSTSCRIPT.  NEW-YORK:  Printed and Sold by George Forman, No. 64,
Water-Street. between Coenties and the Old-Ship.  1798."

(To enable you to properly and intelluctality digest what follows, I
strongly urge a quiet environment with absolutely no distractions.  Not
recommended for those suffering from Attention Disorder Syndrome [caused by
being raised by dysfunctional parents].)

INTRODUCTION TO THE AMERICANIST CLASSICS EDITION

Very few people are aware that the intense drama of our twentieth
century--the life and death struggle between capitalism and Communism,
freedom and slavery--has its origins in the the late eighteenth century.
All Americans are aware that the Declaration of Independence was written in
1776.  Few are aware that Adam Smith's 'Wealth of Nations', which provided
the ideological foundation for capitalism and for the Industrial Revolution,
was published in 1776.  And fewer still are aware that in that same year,
1776, Adam Weishaupt, a professor of Canon law at Ingolstadt University in
Germany, founded the Illuminati Order, a conspiratorial organization which
embodied all of the goals, aims and methods of what we now call Communism.
All history books will tell you of the first event.  A good many will tell
you of the second.  But practically none will even allude to the last.  Why?
When you know the answer to that question you know hstory better than the
historians.

The two prime source books for our knowledge of Adam Weishaupt's Illuminati
conspiracy are Professor John Robison's 'Proofs of a Conpircy', first
published in 1798, and the Abbe Augustin Barruel's impressive four-volume
study, 'Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism' published in 1799,
some months after the first appearance of Robison's book.  Both men--one a
Professor of Natural Philosophy at Edinburgh University, the other a French
clergyman--writing in different countries and in different languages,
without the one knowing the other, basically covered the same subject matter
and came to the very same conslusions.  Thus, we have two excellent works
which tell us virtually all we need to know about the origin of history's
most diabolical, long-range conspiracy.

While Barruel's work is the more extensive, better documented, and perhaps
more painstakingly accurate, Professor Robison's book is the more literate,
sophisticated and reflective.  Its documentation is extensive, but its
intellectual scope is its chief delight, for Robison, in this work, is more
than merely a historian;  he is a philosopher, moralist, social commentator,
wise observer of human foibles, scientist, critic, and stylist.

Robison had all of the virtues of the enlightment, rational, scientific,
humane and religious spirit which characterized the founders of our own
country and which represented the flower of eighteenth century English
intellect.  He had traveled widely in the old and new worlds, was one of the
century's leading teachers of science--then known as 'natural
philosophy'--and he knew many of the major men of achievement in all the
sciences.  He was a close friend of James Watt, the inventor of the steam
engine, who described Robison when the latter died in 1805 at the age of 66
as 'a man of the clearest head and the most science of anybody I have ever
known.'

Professor Robison was a member of the distinguished circle of intellectuals
who at that time enhanced the reputation of the University of Edinburg.  In
fact, in 1783, Robison was elected general secretary of the royal Society of
Edinburg.  In short, Robison was one of the leading intellects of his time,
deeply interested in every aspect of man's attainments, both scientific and
moral, in civilized society.

The French Revolution, with its incredible atrocities, its militant atheism,
its reign of terror, its wanton destruction of civilized values, was the
major event which shook Europe during Robison's mature years.  Its shock was
particularly painful because it occurred when science, rationality and
enlightenment 

[CTRL] (Fwd) Fw: The Story of Taps

2000-04-02 Thread Alamaine

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--- Forwarded message follows ---
Subject:Fw: The Story of Taps
Date sent:  Sun, 2 Apr 2000 08:36:31 -0400




   Story of  "Taps"

  We have all heard the haunting song, "Taps".  It's the song that gives
us that
  lump in our throats and usually creates tears in our eyes.  But, do you
know
  the story behind the song?  If not, I think you will be delighted to
find out
  about it's humble beginnings.
 
  It all began in 1862 during the Civil War, when Union Army Captain
Robert
  Ellicombe was with his men near Harrison's Landing in Virginia.  The
  Confederate Army was on the other side  of the narrow strip of land.
 
  During the night, Captain Ellicombe heard the moans of a soldier who lay
  mortally wounded on the field.  Not knowing if it was a Union or
Confederate
  soldier, the Captain decided to risk his life and bring the stricken man
back
  for medical attention.  Crawling on his stomach through the gunfire, the
  Captain reached the stricken soldier and began pulling him toward his
  encampment.  When the Captain finally reached his own lines, he
discovered it
  was actually a Confederate soldier but the soldier was dead.
 
  The Captain lit a lantern and suddenly caught his breath and went numb
with
  shock.  In the dim light, he saw the face of the soldier.  It was his
own son.
  The boy had been studying music in the South when the war broke out.
Without
  telling his father, he enlisted in the Confederate Army.
 
  The following morning, heartbroken, the father asked permission of his
  superiors to give his son a full military burial despite his enemy
status.  His
  request was only partially granted.
 
  The Captain had asked if he could have a group of Army band members play
a
  funeral dirge for his son at the funeral.  The request was turned down
since
  the soldier was a Confederate; but, out of respect for the father, they
did say
  they could give him only one musician.
 
  The Captain chose a bugler.  He asked the bugler to play a series of
musical
  notes he had found on a piece of paper in the pocket of the dead youth's
  uniform.  This wish was granted.and the haunting melody we now know
as
  "Taps" used at military funerals was born.
 
"Day is done,
 
Gone the sun,
 
From the lakes,
 
From the hills,
 
From the sky,
 
All is well,
 
Safely rest,
 
God is nigh."
 
  -
 
  
   For those who fought for it, 
   Freedom has a flavor 
   The protected will never know 
  


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Re: [CTRL] NYP: ANOTHER CRIME FROM AMERICA'S TOP OFFICER (fwd)

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In a message dated 04/02/2000 11:58:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 Sending threats by mail is a crime and I believe this would take
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So there's a hope maybe?  Still, the best thing is to refuse mail service.
No?  Prudy

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[CTRL] The Rothschilds, LBMA, And Gold

2000-04-02 Thread William Shannon

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The Rothschilds, LBMA, and Gold

"It would be insufficient to sum up the (Rothschild) family as still very
wealthy. ..(their fortunes are as) ineffable as alwaystoday the family
grooms the inaudibility and invisibility of its presence as a result, some
believe that little is left apart from a great legend -- and the Rothschilds
are quite content to let legend be their public relations." (The Rothschilds,
Frederick Morton, 1962)

Gold-Eagle analysts, including the Red Baron's The Grand LBMA Exposés
(http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest/baron1110.html) and the Oracle of
Alberta's Novus Ordo Seclorum and China
(http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest/alberta1030.html), have drawn
attention to the role of the London Bullion Marketing Association (LBMA) and
to the House of Rothschild, as a key player at the LBMA and global gold
markets. The intention of this essay is to provide an in-depth forensic
historical and geopolitical assessment of key issues and players in today's
markets. For this purpose, an historical analysis is a good teacher. To
understand today's currency and gold markets requires a study of the House of
Rothschild; undoubtedly the world's most influential merchant banking power
for over 200 years.


When a Rothschild Falls in the Forest, Does Anyone Hear It?

Most people would have overlooked the Globe and Mail's (Canada's national
newspaper) news clip announcing the very recent death of Baron Edmond de
Rothschild in the newspaper's International Business section. The Baron's
death is no small event when considering the importance of the Rothschild's
in European and global financial history. When a Rothschild dies, does
anybody hear it or understand the significance? It is ironic that while days
of attention were devoted to the deaths of Princess Diana and Mother Theresa,
virtually no attention is given to the death of a member of one of the
wealthiest families in the world.

The following description of the Baron's demise appeared in the Globe and
Mail under his picture:

"Baron Edmond de Rothschild, philanthropist, international financier and
member of the banking dynasty, died Monday in Geneva, of a respiratory
illness at age 71, a spokesman said. Mr. Rothschild was president of his
Geneva-based bank and financial companies as well as the Luxembourg-based
Leicom Fund. He was believed to be the richest family member (of the House of
Rothschild) that has played a major role in French business and culture for
nearly two centuries. The Rothschilds are widely known for their wineries in
the Bourdeaux region of France, including the Baron's Chateau Clarke, where
he is to be buried this week in a private ceremony. Mr. Rothschild was named
an officer of France's legion of honour in 1994, and its order of arts and
letters in 1990. Throughout his life, he donated the equivalent of tens of
millions of dollars to hospitals, museums, and the State of Israel. An avid
art collector, he gave works to the Louvre museum in Paris. Mr. Rothschild's
son Benjamin, 34, will succeed him as president of Paris-based Cie Financiere
Holding Benjamin et Edmond de Rothschild."

In a July 1997 edition of the Globe and Mail another rare report of another
important Rothschild enterprise was made (see Rothschilds holding company
fiscal year profit up 66%): The article referred to the Rothschilds
Continuation Holdings AG, parent of N.M. Rothschild  Sons Ltd, "a Swiss
holding company for the Rothschild merchant banking business worldwide
...(with) operating profits rising to 179 million Swiss francs ($122.4
million U.S.) in the year ended March 31 from 108 million francs the previous
years." A 66% profit increase is no small feat especially when you consider
their line of business. In the article, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of
Rothschild's Continuation, noted "We've got a good balance of businesses and
on the whole we've had a pretty good run." Sir Evelyn also noted that the
company has three global business lines "treasury and bullion trading;
resource banking, or banking for the mining industry; and investment
banking." Such stupendous returns on a supposedly barbarous relic, gold, make
even George Soros's Quantum Fund returns seem meagre. It is important to note
that this rare exposure of the family business coincides with the recent rare
exposé by the LBMA that the equivalent of between 30-42 million ounces of
gold per day are traded in London.

The more significant cousin of RCH AG is in fact N.M. Rothschild and Sons
Ltd, named after Nathan Mayer Rothschild, one of the five sons of Mayer
Amschel Rothschild, who operated the London-based house of the family
merchant banking enterprise in the latter part of the 18th and early 19th
century. The Rothschild business enterprise has changed little in over 200
years. But why change a good thing when such large and sustained profits can
be made by trading currency, treasuries, and gold plus gold leasing,

Re: [CTRL] Israeli Apartheid Approach Showing Cracks (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 04/02/2000 2:35:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I don't say everything is perfect here. It's far from the truth. But
 it's much easier to be an Arab in Israel than an African American in
 certain places in US 

I recall meeting a young Israeli physicist who was touring Turkey.  We were
in a party of five--two couples and one young Turkish man.  The small hotel
where we were did not have a room for the young Israeli, so since I was
paying for our Turkish guide, I suggested that the Israeli share that room
and pay the slight difference that two individuals in a room would cost.  He
did so, sharing the room with the Moslem Turk.  The next morning at
breakfast, he told me that he was very surprised at our Turkish guide's sense
of humor.  "Why he makes lots of jokes," he said.   "He's really a very
pleasant fellow.   I never knew that Moslems were like that."

I just laughed and told him that our guide was well known for his sense of
humor, and everyone always found him pleasant company.  Our group climbed up
to see the splendors of that particular site, and the Israeli seemed
perfectly at ease.  His amazement, however, taught me that the Palestinians
have been dehumanized to the Israeli people.  They are just thought of as
idiots with a weird religion.  These are not people worth bothering with.
They have become the Jews of Nazi Germany.  They can go here, but not there.
They can live here but not there.  They can study here but not there.   They
can have this job but not that job, and their poetry is not to be studied.
It goes on and on.  I have accepted the Israeli method of securing their
country.  Don't ask me to admire that method.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Cong. Steve Largent: Moron

2000-04-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Jim Condit Jr wrote:

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 I was had some hope in Cong. Steve Largent, I can't remember why. I just
 watched him on Sunday morning FOX news show talking like a moron about
 sending Eliot Gonzales back to Castro for brainwashing, based on his
 perverted phony-Ralph Reed/Pat Robertson/ Jerry Falwell Ruling Elite
 pseudo-Christianity. ...

 Ruling Elite mouthpieces Cokie Roberts (how disgusting of a New World Order
 shill she is!) and Sam Donaldson -- asked an Elian lawyer 5 different ways
 how can he best help to pave the way for handing Elian back to Castro, and
 how can he try and stop the community from forming a human shield around
 Elian to prevent the New World Order Gestapo from coming to send Elian back
 to his assigned province in the New World Order. (Incidentally, ABC is
 releasing its phony polls again -- claiming on the same show that 59% of
 "the people" want Elian to go back to Cuba, -- but that, due to the election
 year, Al Gore has to pander to the people who want to keep Elian in
 America!!! How dumb do they think we are? Do you really think Al Gore,
 who is no doubt totally in sympathy with his fellow Bolsheviks Clinton and
 Castro on sending Elian back to Cuba, would be pandering to the "keep Elian
 in America" crowd if it was just a few thousands Cuban-Americans in
 Florida Hades, NO! THese network execs and anchors should be put in jail
 for releasing phony polls like this.

 Thank God for the Americans of Cuban descent in Florida and Mayors who have
 announced that the surrounding police departments will not help that group
 of unindicted felons known as the Clinton Administration send Elian back to
 Communism. We'll see if "Alice the Goon" Reno dares play with another WACO
 over this issue. Jim Condit Jr.

Condit your a shrill fascist idiot.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] (Fwd) (Fwd) everyone should know:

2000-04-02 Thread Alamaine

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I don't know how true this is but thought it had a sense of humour in it.

AER

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   Here's something everyone should know:
  
On July 8, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with five aliens aboard
   crashed on
a sheep-and-cattle ranch outside Roswell, NM, an incident
they say has  been covered up by the military.
  
On March 31, 1948, exactly nine months after that day, Al Gore was
 born.
  

Lon

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Re: [CTRL] Smith Wesson-Target Of Conspiracy?

2000-04-02 Thread Bob Stokes

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In a message dated 00-04-02 14:48:09 EDT, you write:

 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Department of Housing and Urban Development has
asked
 the Justice Department to investigate reports of a possible "conspiracy" of
 gun manufacturers to punish Smith  Wesson for the company's decision to sign
 an accord to produce safer guns in an effort to avoid government lawsuits.

We are supposed to believe something from the Clinton News Network?  The
conspiracy is to eliminate guns from law abiding citizens.

 Local, state and federal government officials who are part of the
Communities
 for Safer Guns Coalition met last week and reported anecdotal evidence that
 might "suggest a conspiracy among manufacturers to put Smith  Wesson out of
 business," said HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo at a news conference Friday.

The Safer Guns Coalition is only a PC name, it should be the Gun Elimination
Gang.

 "You can't pressure a company or try to put a company out of business as a
 conspiracy of other companies," he said.

 Justice spokeswoman Gina Talamona confirmed the department is "reviewing the
 matter."

 Smith  Wesson, the nation's largest gun manufacturer, signed an agreement
 March 17 to install gun locks and other child-safety devices on all guns, and
 to introduce "smart-gun" technology in all newly designed handguns. The
 company also agreed to impose marketing and distribution rules on retailers
 who carry its wares, as ways to keep guns from children and criminals.

Face it, SW will put themselves out of business.  No self respecting person
who wants to own a gun will buy a SW firearm since they are helping the
government to to eliminate the second amendment by de facto means.

 Smith  Wesson also promised to put a hidden, second serial number on
 handguns to make them easier to trace.

 In exchange, the city governments signing the settlement agreed to drop the
 lawsuits they filed against the company to recover costs associated with gun
 violence, and the federal government agreed not to file its own lawsuit.

 Cuomo said the gun industry and the National Rifle Association were surprised
 at the settlement, and are "panicked" that tougher safety rules are on the
 way.

The government doesn't enforce the laws that are on the books now so that
crime will rise and they can have more "ammo" for removing guns.  The
government sold gun companies a license to sell guns, how come these cities
are not in litigation against the federal government?

 Besides the federal government, Cuomo said the attorneys general in
 Connecticut, Maryland and New York are looking into the reports as well. The
 possibility of a boycott was first reported by The New York Times earlier
 this week.

 Cuomo also used the news conference to rally consumer and government support
 for Smith  Wesson and other manufacturers who may choose to participate in
 the responsibility standards outlined in the accord.

Let's see now, the government wants to run the gun business, isn't that
Fascism?  This does not happen in a free country.

 Nearly 70 jurisdictions have now added the standards to contract
 specifications when placing bids for police weapons. Cuomo said police sales
 comprise about 25 to 30 percent of the annual market for new guns.

 Smith  Wesson's decision to sign the agreement was criticized by the NRA and
 other gun groups. Two other gun manufacturers, Browning and Glock Inc., have
 declined to sign onto the accord.

 Glock refused to sign on because the company wanted the right to make its
 business decisions without any interference from the government, said Paul
 Jannuzzo, Glock vice president and general counsel.

Perhaps police shouldn't have guns, they rarely arrive until after the
criminals are long gone.  Their weapons mostly consist of pens and forms to
fill out after the crime.

 Browning is a defendant in a number of lawsuits filed by cities and
counties
 on the grounds that gun makers and dealers do not take the necessary
 precautions to ensure the firearms they sell are safe.

 "In my estimation, (Smith  Wesson) has been politically drug into giving
 away their own rights, the rights of everyone in the industry, the rights of
 licensed gun dealers and the rights of law-abiding gun owners," said Rich
 Bauter, vice president of Browning.  

Political?  What is political about having a gun pointed at your head and
forced to comply with the government's "request."  Government is force and it
is the government forcing SW to do as told or be sued out of business.  The
gun companies are not the problem, criminals are the problem, eliminate
criminals and there would be little need of guns.

How come Clinton, Feinstein, Reno, etc. have bodyguards with guns.  They
don't practice what they preach, so much for integrity among the thieves of
government.

Regards,
Bob Stokes

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[CTRL] Fw: Bulgaria Started the War!!!

2000-04-02 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

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-Original Message-
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To: Mrs. Jela Jovanovic Secretary General [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:52 PM
Subject: Bulgaria Started the War!!!



SEGA, Bulgarian daily, March 29, 2000

Bulgaria Started the War!!!

Spiegel: :"Horseshoe" Plan comes from the poisonous kitchen of the
Bulgarian Secret Services."
Frankfuhrter Rundshaw announced last week  that Bulgarian Secret Services
had been the origin of the information for that Serb plan, used as a
justification for NATO strikes on Yugoslavia (My God! Why haven t they
written Milosevic?!!?).
Folker Pele (?) the German Foreign Affairs Ministry speaker did not answer
if Bulgaria had been asked to release additional data for the West to clear
out the doubts in connection with the source and reliability of the
information received by secret agency service.

The German Foreign Minister has confirmed the German pres releases about  a
Bulgarian secret analysis of our information services for Kosovo.
On April 1, 1999 Minister Mihailova had given Joshka Fisher the Serb plan
"Podkova" (=Horseshoe) for pending ethnic cleansing of Kosovo Albanians.
Fisher gave it to Rudolph Scharping, the German Minister of Defence.
Only Bulgarians and Germans had discussed that plan last year.
"Horseshoe" Plan was mentioned openly on April 8, 1999 for the first time.
Bulgarian Telegraph Agency (BTA) quotes the General Bundesweher Inspector
Hans-Peter von Kierhbach (?), who explained the plan on a press-conference.
According to him, the Serb plan "Horseshoe" aimed at liquidating KLA even if
that would mean extermination of all the Albanians in Kosovo. Its essence
was the Albanians to be expelled from the country stage by stage to be
achieved demographic change in the province.
These explanations were necessary because two weeks after the March 24
there were already civilian victims and the refugees were increasing. The
apprehensions for the war end were increasing too.
A week later the "horseshoe" plan was mentioned in an articleby Wiliam
Pfaff (?) in "International Herald Tribune". The aim was to convince the
public that  there was no moral justification to stop the bombing.
"According to the German government sources that program  for Kosovo
Albanians ethnic cleansing  had been worked out at the end of 1998 under the
code name "Horseshoe".. In fact, it had been under implementation before the
the Rambouillet Negotiations in February", Pfaff writes. According to him
the Yugoslavian government should receive a lesson.
On April 24 Kostov (the Bulgarian Premier) also quotes the operation
"Horseshoe" to justify the pending Bulgarian coroboration  and war
interference. He underlined that Albanians had fled from Kosovo in great
numbers long before the bombing start. " Who has made 400,000 (?!?)
Albanians flee out of Kosovo before March 24?.. Operation "Horseshoe began
at February 26 and aimed at two things: to exterminate KLA and to turn
Kosovo into a desert. What can explain the flows of refugees to the
countries from the region when there were no bombings? And now, when there
are bombings, why only Albanians flee from Kosovo? And how it happened so
that those people have been deliberately loaded on buses, trains, etc., and
in an organised manner had been deported to Macedonia?  We witness a quite
deliberate deportation carried out by and army of 4 soldiers, police and
paramilitary formations", Kostov said.  In the same interview he declares
also that Milosevic s aim (i.e., Yugoslavians government - translator note)
was to destabilise Macedonia. " Bulgaria is the last country , which should
close the ring around Milosevic (i.e., Yugoslavia - translator s note). All
the countries have given their consent to support the peacekeeping
operations.. If we do not close the ring, we in fact help destabilising
Macedonia."
"Horseshoe" is not mentiond in any of the thousands Reuter informations for
the the Kosovo conflict.
The former US Ambassador in Bulgaria Avis Bowlen (?) declared in an
interview on Radio "Darik"(shamelessly pro UDF radio!) that she knew nothing
about that plan.

The article continues on two pages but I need a rest form that squalor.
If you are interested, I ll do the next part as well.

Comments:
1/ Bulgaria has almost no information services: they were very thoroughly
broken down during the several de-communising hysterical outbursts here;
2/ Some people told me that such information do not change hands at a level
Foreign Ministers;
3/ I and all my friends think the following:
CIA (through the US Ambassador Bowlen (who knows nothing) and her staff had
called "Pretty Nadja" (Minister Mihailova) and had given their girl on a
call the plan "Horseshoe" worked out in their poisonous kitchens.
And she had run (flied) to meet the German boy on call, dear Joshka.
The public had to be kept heightened on the bombing. Raytheon, Lockhead,
Boing, Microsoft and 

Re: [CTRL] Cong. Steve Largent: Moron

2000-04-02 Thread Bard

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Jim, This is an excellent Post!  Your 'friend' Joshua2 is the idiot!!
Did you re-distribute my four parter on Illuminati-Freemasonry far and wide??  It's 
amazing how some people are satisfied with a traitorous
rapist in our White House.
Bard



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 Jim Condit Jr wrote:
 
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  I was had some hope in Cong. Steve Largent, I can't remember why. I just
  watched him on Sunday morning FOX news show talking like a moron about
  sending Eliot Gonzales back to Castro for brainwashing, based on his
  perverted phony-Ralph Reed/Pat Robertson/ Jerry Falwell Ruling Elite
  pseudo-Christianity. ...
 
  Ruling Elite mouthpieces Cokie Roberts (how disgusting of a New World Order
  shill she is!) and Sam Donaldson -- asked an Elian lawyer 5 different ways
  how can he best help to pave the way for handing Elian back to Castro, and
  how can he try and stop the community from forming a human shield around
  Elian to prevent the New World Order Gestapo from coming to send Elian back
  to his assigned province in the New World Order. (Incidentally, ABC is
  releasing its phony polls again -- claiming on the same show that 59% of
  "the people" want Elian to go back to Cuba, -- but that, due to the election
  year, Al Gore has to pander to the people who want to keep Elian in
  America!!! How dumb do they think we are? Do you really think Al Gore,
  who is no doubt totally in sympathy with his fellow Bolsheviks Clinton and
  Castro on sending Elian back to Cuba, would be pandering to the "keep Elian
  in America" crowd if it was just a few thousands Cuban-Americans in
  Florida Hades, NO! THese network execs and anchors should be put in jail
  for releasing phony polls like this.
 
  Thank God for the Americans of Cuban descent in Florida and Mayors who have
  announced that the surrounding police departments will not help that group
  of unindicted felons known as the Clinton Administration send Elian back to
  Communism. We'll see if "Alice the Goon" Reno dares play with another WACO
  over this issue. Jim Condit Jr.

 Condit your a shrill fascist idiot.

 Joshua2


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Re: [CTRL] White House protected ecoterrorists

2000-04-02 Thread uaicvtmb

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Well, I agree. BUT, you left out the Liberal DEMORATS Like Al BORE who had
inherited and "manages" a Hugh Oil, Etc. Trust that makes Millions off the
"Environment" and the "Economy". So Much for the "Environmential VP".
I put the sacred "VP TREE" Right up at the "Tree Top" with the Rest of the
Elite, who Greedly siphon off our "tax dollars" for their "causes" while
making
Billions off the various "industries" and "shills who front their causes for
all
varities of movements". There are more "DEMORATS and REPUBLICRATS"
who make Millions off the "sacred earth" and the rest of us "normal average
folks".

I hate to "Wake Up the Disallusioned Arm Chair Enviromnential Nazi's" out
there - BUT You All Have Been HAD by the "Eliteists and International
Bankers" who don't
care what you *think or feel* as long as *they* can use *you* for their own
*gain*.

NOT TO MENTION: The "Major Funding" for "Green Peace", et el, gets funneled
through "black bag jobs" handled through "international banksters" the likes
of the
*defunct* B.C.C.I that was headquartered in London, England. If you follow
the Trail
of Where the Funding Came From - you can trace it all the way back to the
Marxist
Communists in Eastern Europe  Russia. The sole purpose was to disrupt the
Western World Economy for their own benefit.

As another *example* Look at the *KATO Treaty* that was signed in Japan,
through the U.N. This *Treaty* should Never Be Approved by our Congress. It
only *benefits* the *Third World Developing Countries" and the "Communist
Nations". Because "they" are the one's that don't care about the
"Environmental Hazards" - Just their *OWN* Economies - And Seek to Shut Down
our American Industrial Production.

Prior to WW 2, the U.S. lead the World in Machine Tool Production and use.
We were able to out product all the other Nations of the World combined in
order to fight a World War on two Fronts.The majority of our "industrial
might" and *machine tool industgry" has shifted to Japan and other
countries. While the U.S. has an upswing in *service industries*. If We had
to Ever Fight Another World War - It Would take too long to Retool.Any
comments, many of you know I am right. Thanks for *sharing*, An American
First, Last and Always!

~ Mike ~
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[CTRL] [Robot-for-President] Quantum Powering of Micro/Nano-Robots. (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Subject: [Robot-for-President] Quantum Powering of Micro/Nano-Robots.

Now that's interesting. Kurzweil (1999) is highly "bearish" on quantum
computing, saying that (future) quantum computing is to digital computing
as a hydrogen bomb is to a firecracker. (p. 112). Now imagine nano- or
just miniature robots with quantum artificial brains and quantum energy
supplies. Before 2099 he expects supercomputing power to be microscopic in
size. (p. 257). Bill Joy's "nanophobia" in spades. Moratorium on
nanotech? Nano-chance of this I would say. The best we can hope for is
some guidelines on genetic and reproductive technologies from
Mssrs. Manley and Rock. How is that new legislation coming along?
FWP.

http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm

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 FreakTech

 Plasma antennas (2000-04-02 18:24:12)
 http://rsphysse.anu.edu.au/~ggb112/index.html
 Plasma antennas are radiofrequency antennas that employ plasma as the
 guiding medium for electromagnetic radiation. Conventional antennas employ
 either metal to support antenna currents necessary for radiating
 electromagnetic fields or dielectric materials (e.g. plastics such as
 teflon) to redirect or reform an electromagnetic wavefront.
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 Internet distributed processing.(2000-04-01 23:22:20)
 http://www.processtree.com/?sponsor=13169
 The ProcessTree Network was created to bring two groups together: those
 who have huge computing jobs to do; and millions whose computers just sit
 idle much of the time. With the ProcessTree Network those BIG computing
 jobs can get done faster and cheaper, and people can turn there computers
 idle time into money.
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 Vacuum energy powered micro-machines.   (2000-03-29 23:18:01)
 http://www.quantumfields.com/
 According to quantum field theory every point in space contain a unlimited
 amount of energy.
 On this web site Quantum Fields LLC explain how they plan to power
 micro-machines with this energy.
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 Digital Inter Relay Communication (DIRC)(2000-03-22 15:43:23)
 http://www.dirc.net/development/index.html
 The basic idea of DIRC is a self learning, intelligent, and self
 organising network of small transmitting and receiving stations which
 operate permanently for the network. The links between the DIRC´s are
 build up on radio transmission links. Subscribers in the DIRC network
 communicates with each other by assistance of the relay functions of DIRC
 stations in between.
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 New approach to levitating trains.  (2000-01-19 18:12:07)
 http://www.llnl.gov/str/Post.html
 Lawrence Livermore scientists have recently developed a new approach to
 magnetically levitating high-speed trains that is fundamentally much
 simpler in design and operation (requiring no superconducting coils or
 stability control circuits), potentially much less expensive, and more
 widely adaptable than other maglev systems. The new technology, called
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[CTRL] [BCPolitics] Re: British government plans to give police and intelligence services the right to read private email (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:55:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bruce Dienes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [BCPolitics] Re: British government plans to give police and
intelligence  services the right to read private email

Thank you for this information. We need to keep up to date on such
matters. I am 100% certain that even without legislation, the CIA
intercepts every email message on the planet. Given that they acknowledge
on ed tv that they keep every radio and tv broadcast on the planet in
their files would you expect otherwise?
FWP

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On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Bruce Dienes wrote:

 FYI:

 PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY

 RIGHT TO COMMUNICATE / Regulation of Investigatory Powers Bill forum

 Peaceful protest is a "serious crime" in the British government's Bill
 to intercept private email communication

 Statement from GreenNet

 In September last year, at a conference on British government plans to
 give police and intelligence services the right to read private email,
 Patricia Hewitt, the minister for e-commerce, claimed these plans were
 necessary "because crime has become global and digital and we have to
 combat this". What she omitted to mention was that one of the "crimes"
 the government was setting out to combat was the kind of peaceful
 protest actions that took place in Seattle at the WTO meeting. This has
 now been made crystal clear in the proposed Regulation of Investigatory
 Powers (RIP) Bill. Continuing with a definition first brought in by the
 Thatcher government to allow police to tap the phones of union members
 in the 1985 British miners' strike, the Bill specifically designates
 "conduct by a large number of persons in pursuit of a common purpose" to
 be "a serious crime" justifying an interception of their private email
 correspondence. The police requested that this measure be introduced in
 a report into the demonstration that took place at the City of London as
 part of an international day of protest actions on June
 18th last year. There were violent clashes between the police and this
 initially non-violent demonstration.

 The group that organised the June 18th demonstration is a GreenNet user
 and much of the organisation for the international protest took place
 using GreenNet Internet facilities. If the RIP Bill had been in place
 last year there seems little doubt that the police would have applied
 for an order to force GreenNet to give them access to the private email
 of people involved in the June 18th events. The police would almost
 certainly have wanted a similar order over protest activities planned to
 coincide with the Seattle WTO meeting. Under the RIP Bill, they will now
 be able to obtain such facilities to spy on the activities of protest
 groups. Internet Service Providers (ISPs) will have to build
 "interception capabilities" into their systems. When served with an
 "interception warrant" they will be forced to intercept private email
 and convey its contents to the police or various intelligence services.

 Refusal to comply with a warrant will carry a maximum jail sentence of
 two years. "Tipping-off" someone that their email is being read is
 punishable by up to five years jail.

 This also applies to informing anyone not authorised to know about the
 interception warrant. The warrant will initially be served on a named
 individual within an ISP. They may inform only those other people they
 need to help them implement the warrant and these, in turn, face the
 same penalties for tipping-off. The only exception allowed is to consult
 legal advisors.

 A separate section of the Bill deals with encryption. This provides for
 "properly authorised persons (such as members of the law enforcement,
 security and intelligence agencies) to serve written notices on
 individuals or bodies requiring the surrender of information (such as a
 decryption key) to enable them to understand (make intelligible)
 protected material which they lawfully hold, or are likely to."

 Such an order can be served on anyone "there are reasonable grounds for
 believing" has an encryption key. They could face two years jail for not
 revealing the key and are also subject to the same possible five year
 jail sentence as ISPs for informing someone that attempts are being made
 by the authorities to read their email. This section of the Bill has
 been widely condemned by civil liberties lawyers as reversing the
 fundamental right of a person to be presumed innocent until proven
 guilty and will almost certainly be challenged using the European
 Convention on Human Rights.

 The British Bill is part of long term plans that have been developed
 since 1993 to give law enforcement bodies around the world the ability
 to intercept and read 

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

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[CTRL] CIA's bungled Iraqi coup

2000-04-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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April 2 2000
 MIDDLE EAST



  Revealed: CIA's
 bungled Iraqi coup

Marie Colvin


 AN attempt backed by the Central
 Intelligence Agency (CIA) to overthrow
 Saddam Hussein degenerated into a farce
 that ended with an Iraqi security
 officer using the agency's satellite
 telephone to tell American agents to "go
 back to Langley".

 An inner circle of about 12 dissident
 Iraqi military officers, including the
 three sons of the chief plotter, were
 imprisoned and most are believed to have
 been executed. Another 160 people were
 arrested.

 The coup was crushed four years ago, but
 Iraqis close to the operation have only
 just agreed to reveal details. They have
 virtually given up hope the Americans
 will mount another operation against
 Saddam.

 "The CIA went against Saddam and lost
 everything," an Iraqi source said.

 The plan was bold. According to Iraqi
 sources, in 1995 the CIA infiltrated
 Saddam's inner circle for the first time
 since the Gulf war in 1991. The plot
 represented Washington's "dream
 scenario": a palace coup that would
 remove the Iraqi president but leave the
 regime intact and the country stable.

 The plan was hatched in talks between
 the CIA and Brigadier General Muhammed
 Abdullah Shahwani, an ethnic Turkoman
 from Kirkuk, in northern Iraq, who had
 retired from the army but retained
 Saddam's favour.

 Shahwani was running an import-export
 business between Jordan and Iraq when he
 was recruited by Steve Richter, then CIA
 chief in Amman, the Jordanian capital.

 The wealthy general agreed to recruit
 his three sons, all based in Baghdad
 with senior positions in the Iraqi
 special forces. One was a general in the
 Amn al-Khass, the security organisation
 responsible for Saddam's safety.

 The Americans alerted the Jordanians and
 a special unit was set up in Jordan's
 mukhabarat, the domestic security
 agency, to assist the coup effort. It
 was isolated from other Jordanian forces
 because many officers and soldiers were
 sympathetic to Saddam.

 But the plot went disastrously wrong.
 The CIA in Amman asked an Egyptian
 go-between to deliver communications
 equipment to Shahwani's sons. The
 Egyptian delivered walkie talkies and a
 satellite telephone programmed to dial
 only a CIA number. But he secretly
 denounced his contacts to the Iraqi
 mukhabarat.

 Saddam appears to have played with the
 CIA for months, using the general as a
 conduit for disinformation, before
 rounding up the plotters.

 He was aware of the plot by November
 1995. A member of his security force who
 had secretly supplied information to the
 Iraqi National Congress (INC), a leading
 opposition group then based in
 Kurdistan, warned his INC contact: "Get
 out and tell your friends to escape.
 Pull out quickly."

 It was the first the INC had heard of
 the coup attempt. The officer also said
 Saddam had intercepted CIA
 communications equipment. The INC passed
 the warning to the Americans, but
 nothing was done.

 In March 1996, Ahmed Chalabi, the INC
 leader, met John Deutch, then head of
 the CIA, and Richter, who was now
 running the Middle East division of the
 agency's directorate of operations in
 Washington.

 Chalabi is said to have told them the
 coup plotters were known to Saddam, but
 again, the CIA took no action.
 Yesterday, Chalabi refused to comment.

 The CIA offices in the US embassy in
 Amman subsequently received a fax from
 Baghdad, sent on the satellite phone
 that had been delivered to the rebels.
 The fax began with verses from the Koran
 and ended with a message: "Go back to
 Langley."

 Up to 80 military officers who were
 arrested and interrogated may have been
 executed.

 Shahwani, who was in Amman, survived.
 The CIA sent him to Britain for
 debriefing, and has since moved him to a
 safe haven.

 The CIA's bungling had wide-ranging
 repercussions. Emboldened by his
 success, Saddam sent tanks into
 Kurdistan two months later, almost
 overrunning a CIA base in the city of
 Arbil. The CIA withdrew scores of people
 who had been working with the agency but
 Baghdad's forces killed hundreds of
 others.

 The disaster may help to explain
 Washington's moribund policy toward
 Iraq, which now consists of rhetoric and
 a few symbolic airstrikes a month.

 Of $97m in funds, training and military
 materials voted by the US Congress for
 the Iraqi opposition, only $250,000 has
 been released. Sources in Baghdad say
 Saddam is counting the days before he
 can crow about having outlasted another
 American president.

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Jim Condit Jr wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Hey Nurev --- Your answers to F.W. Poley read with a hint of a Jewish
 rascist and supremist. Have you every criticized anything Jewish on this
 list?

Not on this list. There are enough guys like you and Poley to do that.
But I am the devil incarnate on some Jewish lists.

 Do you object to the fact that in Israel the Jews have blue licence
 plates on their cars, and the Arabs are forced to have yellow (or maybe the
 color scheme is different, but you get the point)?

Do you object to the fact that the states have different colored plates?

 Or is "blending the
 races" just Jewish propaganda for every other people, but not for
 themselves?

It's really not much fun having these discussions with ignorant racists
like you and that moronic Poley. Where oh where did the really bright
ones that we had a few years ago go? I miss them.

American Jews are assimilating at a rate of over 53%. You white Christians
aren't even in the ballpark compared to that. Don't you clowns ever check
your facts?

 Regarding Franklin's words which have been reported for at least
 the last 50 years, and I believe were on public display at one point, if
 they still aren't --- I don't need to listen to any "conspiracy theorists"
 to see that anti-Christ pseudo-Zionist Jews like Cohen, Albright,

Cohen and Albright are not Jewish. NOT JEWISH get it? This is not a matter
of opinion. They have said it over and over again. They are Episcopalians.
Episcopalians are NOT a Jewish sect.

 Rubin,
 Rubin, Berger, Emmanuel are dominating that federal government; that
 anti-Christ Jews like Schumer dominate congress; that anti-Christ Jews like
 Speilberg, Katzenberg, Eisner, Geffen, etc. etc. etc. dominate Hollywood,
 the Major TV stations, and every major radio station in America. I see it
 before my eyes and I don't like it.

Well tough shit and fuck you. They got there because they did well in the system
just like the rest of the White Christian Elites. Monopolies don't last forever.
By the way, you left out Allen Greenspan.
What the hell kind of a conspiracy researcher are you anyway?

 And I hope all decent Christians join me
 in that, including and especially those of Jewish decent. Furthermore, I'm
 expecting in my lifetime to see all these anti-Christ Jews exposed and
 thrown from power --

This is a realistic possibility.

 No, dear Nurev -- I don't mean that in the way you're
 hoping, I don't mean the neutralizing these political devils with the kind
 of stupid, cruel persecution and murder that pseudo-Zionist Jews like Ben
 Gurion and Chaim Weizman perpetrated against their own people (See Perfidy
 by Jewish Hollywood Screen Writer Ben Hecht, available again from
 Amazon.com, and the Transfer Agreement by Jewish Author Edwin Black)

And why exactly is this any of your business?

  in
 conjunction with the Warburg-backed Hitler Nazis (Hitler perhaps as much as
 half-Jewish himself,

Really? Which half?

 see unintentional evidence provided by the newly
 released book, Hitler's Vienna by Brigitte Hamann, starting on page 48,
 published by Oxford Press, copyright 1999 and translated from the German,
 and already a bestseller in Germany and Austria, now available in American
 bookstores) -- I mean a simple exposure and removal from power by peaceful
 means,

Do it. Let's see some action big mouth. Nothing would make me happier than
to see elites thrown from power. Unlike you, I don't care if they are Jews or
not. Would you like me to list the white Christian members of the power
structure? Then we can compare lists and see who is really in charge.

 leaving the wretches to live out their natural lives in obscurity
 and/or opprobrium for their nefarious deeds, although truthfully some might
 be put on trial for treason and be spending much of that time in prison --
 if this country ever comes to it's senses.

Go for it babe.

 Regarding Pope Pius XII and your insinuation that he was "complicit in evil"
 during WWII,

I'm not saying he was complicit. I am saying he was to a great degree
responsible. And the more we find out, the more responsible he'll be. There
is about to be a special study commission convened to research the Vatican
archives about that particular era. There will be Jews and other non-Catholics
on this commission. Watch the fun start when this group gets to business.

  you might have to climb over these bodies before the get to
 Pius XII: the New York Times, and the major radio stations and budding TV
 stations (all Jewish owned, see Jewish Encyclopedia, or many other sources).
 Why didn't these Jewish controlled publications decry what you're claiming
 Pius XII ignored?

Because they didn't have proof at the time. Because they were cowards. Because
they were elite pricks who didn't really care what was happening to their
relatives over there. There were many reasons.

 

[CTRL] KGB stirs in the shadow of Putin

2000-04-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 KGB stirs in the
 shadow of Putin

   Mark Franchetti
Moscow
A FORMER KGB officer renowned for the
zeal with which he persecuted dissidents
and intellectuals in Soviet times is
being tipped to take over the FSB, the
domestic branch of the Russian security
service.

The expected appointment of Viktor
Cherkesov, 49, at present the FSB's
deputy director, has added to concern
that President Vladimir Putin will steer
Russia towards a new era of authoritarian
rule following his election last Sunday.

Cherkesov would replace Nikolai
Patrushev, the director, who is likely to
become the interior minister or to head
the powerful security council.

The rise of Cherkesov, a shadowy figure
who rarely appears in public, has
appalled liberals, who accuse him of
playing a leading role during the 1980s
in the arrest and imprisonment of 20
dissidents in Leningrad, as St Petersburg
was then known.

Described by critics as being a hawkish
reactionary, Cherkesov headed the
investigative department of the KGB's
hated fifth directorate, which was
responsible for surveillance of the
media, church, schools and trade unions.
It specialised in persecuting dissidents.

  ©
   The KGB was reformed in 1991 and the
statue of its founder, Felix Dzerzhinsky,
 was toppled
   Photograph: Alexander Zemlianichenko

Such was Cherkesov's success that in 1992
he was promoted to director of the
agency's St Petersburg branch. Then, 18
months ago, he was called to Moscow by
Putin, who had just been appointed head
of the FSB.

The Russian leader, who served in the KGB
for 16 years, has known Cherkesov since
the early 1980s. Cherkesov was also a
member of his presidential election
campaign team.

"God forbid that a man like Cherkesov
should have even more power than he
already has," said Vyacheslav Dolinin, a
former dissident arrested and questioned
by Cherkesov dozens of times in St
Petersburg.

Dolinin spent nine months in prison and
four years in labour camps in the far
east of the Soviet Union for writing and
smuggling to the West articles predicting
the collapse of the Soviet economy. He
was pardoned in 1987.

"I'll never forget Cherkesov's office -
that's where his true nature came out,"
said Dolinin. "It was number 13 and had
been converted from an old public
lavatory. Cherkesov sat behind a large
desk under a portrait of Lenin. I was
always made to sit on a chair in front of
a small table. Both were nailed to the
floor. A heavy metal grate was fixed to
the window.

"He questioned me for days, trying to
make me squeal on friends and other
dissidents. He never showed any sympathy.
He was no monster, but this was an
ambitious, small-minded man. His threats
were always subtle."

Cherkesov is also remembered in St
Petersburg as the last KGB officer to
open a case under a notorious clause in
the Soviet criminal code - known as
article 70 - which dealt with political
crimes. The target was Yuli Rybakov, a
former artist who is now a liberal member
of parliament. Initiated in 1988, when
Gorbachev's reforms were already well
advanced, the case was closed by Moscow a
few months later.

"Cherkesov is the man who appeared on
television, presenting my fax machine as
clear evidence of my alleged spying and
propaganda activities," Rybakov said.
"That tells you quite a bit about his
mentality."

In one of his last actions before leaving
for Moscow, Cherkesov also helped to open
the case against Alexander Nikitin, a
naval captain turned environmentalist who
was arrested in 1996 and charged with
treason after accusing the Russian navy
of dumping nuclear waste.

Far from regretting his fervour in
tormenting intellectuals, Cherkesov, an
early advocate of schemes to monitor
private e-mails and other internet
traffic, has repeatedly defended his
methods, arguing that he never broke
Soviet laws.

Apprehension about how Cherkesov would
lead the FSB coincides with uncertainty
over Putin's plans for Russia. Although
the president has promised to enforce a
"dictatorship of the law", little is
known of his policies.

A blueprint for a five-year economic
programme is not expected until May.
Putin has repeatedly refused to say when
he will form a government. Mikhail
Kasyanov, a technocratic deputy prime
minister respected in the West for his
negotiations with the International
Monetary Fund, is widely tipped as prime
minister.

For Yelena Bonner, widow of the late
Andrei Sakharov, one of the Soviet
Union's most celebrated dissidents,
Putin's apparent intention to promote
Cherkesov is indicative enough of the
likely direction of events.

"If in 1991 someone had said that the KGB
would return

to power nine years later, I would have
thought him mad," she said. "How can this
be happening?"

oRussian soldiers found the bodies of
more than 30 members of an elite commando
unit ambushed by Chechen rebels in the

Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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/A -Cui Bono?-

Piffle.
(FWP)

-Original Message-
From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, April 02, 2000 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)


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/A -Cui Bono?-

Jim Condit Jr wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-   A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"
 /A -Cui Bono?-

 Hey Nurev --- Your answers to F.W. Poley read with a hint of a Jewish
 rascist and supremist. Have you every criticized anything Jewish on this
 list?

Not on this list. There are enough guys like you and Poley to do that.
But I am the devil incarnate on some Jewish lists.

 Do you object to the fact that in Israel the Jews have blue licence
 plates on their cars, and the Arabs are forced to have yellow (or maybe
the
 color scheme is different, but you get the point)?

Do you object to the fact that the states have different colored plates?

 Or is "blending the
 races" just Jewish propaganda for every other people, but not for
 themselves?

It's really not much fun having these discussions with ignorant racists
like you and that moronic Poley. Where oh where did the really bright
ones that we had a few years ago go? I miss them.

American Jews are assimilating at a rate of over 53%. You white Christians
aren't even in the ballpark compared to that. Don't you clowns ever check
your facts?

 Regarding Franklin's words which have been reported for at least
 the last 50 years, and I believe were on public display at one point, if
 they still aren't --- I don't need to listen to any "conspiracy
theorists"
 to see that anti-Christ pseudo-Zionist Jews like Cohen, Albright,

Cohen and Albright are not Jewish. NOT JEWISH get it? This is not a matter
of opinion. They have said it over and over again. They are Episcopalians.
Episcopalians are NOT a Jewish sect.

 Rubin,
 Rubin, Berger, Emmanuel are dominating that federal government; that
 anti-Christ Jews like Schumer dominate congress; that anti-Christ Jews
like
 Speilberg, Katzenberg, Eisner, Geffen, etc. etc. etc. dominate Hollywood,
 the Major TV stations, and every major radio station in America. I see it
 before my eyes and I don't like it.

Well tough shit and fuck you. They got there because they did well in the
system
just like the rest of the White Christian Elites. Monopolies don't last
forever.
By the way, you left out Allen Greenspan.
What the hell kind of a conspiracy researcher are you anyway?

 And I hope all decent Christians join me
 in that, including and especially those of Jewish decent. Furthermore,
I'm
 expecting in my lifetime to see all these anti-Christ Jews exposed and
 thrown from power --

This is a realistic possibility.

 No, dear Nurev -- I don't mean that in the way you're
 hoping, I don't mean the neutralizing these political devils with the
kind
 of stupid, cruel persecution and murder that pseudo-Zionist Jews like Ben
 Gurion and Chaim Weizman perpetrated against their own people (See
Perfidy
 by Jewish Hollywood Screen Writer Ben Hecht, available again from
 Amazon.com, and the Transfer Agreement by Jewish Author Edwin Black)

And why exactly is this any of your business?

  in
 conjunction with the Warburg-backed Hitler Nazis (Hitler perhaps as much
as
 half-Jewish himself,

Really? Which half?

 see unintentional evidence provided by the newly
 released book, Hitler's Vienna by Brigitte Hamann, starting on page 48,
 published by Oxford Press, copyright 1999 and translated from the German,
 and already a bestseller in Germany and Austria, now available in
American
 bookstores) -- I mean a simple exposure and removal from power by
peaceful
 means,

Do it. Let's see some action big mouth. Nothing would make me happier than
to see elites thrown from power. Unlike you, I don't care if they are Jews
or
not. Would you like me to list the white Christian members of the power
structure? Then we can compare lists and see who is really in charge.

 leaving the wretches to live out their natural lives in obscurity
 and/or opprobrium for their nefarious deeds, although truthfully some
might
 be put on trial for treason and be spending much of that time in
prison --
 if this country ever comes to it's senses.

Go for it babe.

 Regarding Pope Pius XII and your insinuation that he was "complicit in
evil"
 during WWII,

I'm not saying he was complicit. I am saying he was to a great degree
responsible. And the more we find out, the more responsible he'll be. There
is about to be a special study commission convened to research the Vatican
archives about that particular era. There will be Jews and other
non-Catholics
on this commission. Watch the fun start when this group gets to business.

  you might have to climb over these bodies before the get to
 Pius XII: the New York Times, and the major radio stations and budding TV
 stations (all Jewish owned, see Jewish Encyclopedia, or many other
sources).
 Why 

[CTRL] John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint

2000-04-02 Thread Steve Wingate

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John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint
By Canadian Police

Reporting From Shreveport, Louisiana
UNITED STATES

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/8863/index.html

Word has been received this morning, Saturday, 18 March 2000, that John
Hutchison has been raided at gunpoint by Canadian Police. John's
apartment in New Westminster, British Columbia, was raided at 2 PM
Friday, 17 March 2000, by gun-wielding police searching for firearms.  An
antique gun collection owned by Hutchison was confiscated in its entireity.

According to Hutchison, a phone call was received at about 2 PM Friday,
stating that it was the police, and asking John to answer his door.
Hutchison states that there were 8 to 10 individuals pointing weapons at
him, only two or three of whom were in uniform. The rest were dressed in
dark clothing.

Hutchison was handcuffed and placed on the outside steps while police
searched the apartment.  No warrant was claimed or shown at any time.
Police stated only that there had been an anonymous complaint that
firearms were being brought into the apartment.

Police also called in an "electrical inspector" to examine John's lab
equipment.  This is the famous "Hutchison apparatus" with which John
produces the renowned "Hutchison Effect."

Additional individuals dressed in suits were brought in who took extensive
photographs of the Hutchison apparatus.  Hutchison indicates that these
persons had an "official air" about them, and that they might be
Government agents, especially given the confiscation of the original
Hutchison lab, which took place while John was out of the country in 1990.
None of these persons showed any identification. Those who have followed
John's career of invention and innovation will recall that his first laboratory
was forcibly seized by the Canadian Government on 24 February 1990 by
the direct order of former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney.  The
Government has retained the lab in spite of a court order by Judge Paris of
the Supreme Court of British Columbia to return it.

A previous raid on John Hutchison's apartment involving his collection of
antique firearms occured in 1978, and processing took two years.  The
confiscated antiques were returned at the order of Judge Cronin.  These
events occured under the administration of former PM Pierre Trudeau.
Former PM Joe Clark, who took over in the 1980s following the Trudeau
administration, wrote to Hutchison offering help and support.

The present raid follows close on the heels of a recent successful levitation
performed 11 October 1999 which was videotaped by John.  The effect
was achieved after six days worth of attempts.

However, neighbors called local police to complain about Hutchison's
experiment.  It is unclear whether something in their apartment levitated,
although there is no other way known at this time that they could have been
aware of the levitation experiment that was in progress.  The neighbors in
question live across the street from Hutchison.

The sound of approaching sirens was recorded on the video soundtrack of
Hutchison's camcorder during the experiment, and video of some
emergency vehicles and personnel was obtained.

Further updates on the situation will be posted promptly on this website.

Mark A. Solis
Shreveport, LA USA
Webmaster for John Hutchison
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steve Wingate

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[CTRL] Rabbis Approve Same-Sex Unions

2000-04-02 Thread Bard

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Blessings of Abundance and Health in all things Good.

ho tolmoon ti paralassein toon gegrammenoon ap' argees, ouk en hodoo aleetheias 
histatai.

He who attempts to alter any part of the Scriptures, from indolence
or incapacity, stands not in the path of Truth.

Epiphanius Against Heresies, Book I.
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April 2, 2000 -- 4:42 pm


Rabbis Approve Same-Sex Unions
GREENSBORO, NC (MCNS -- The largest group of American Jewish Rabbis has given the nod 
to homosexual "commitment ceremonies." Delegates at
the Central Conference of American Rabbis on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a 
resolution that clears the way for same-sex couples to
participate in Jewish rituals similar to those conducted at heterosexual weddings.

"This is not a woman's issue, or a gay or lesbian issue. This is a human rights 
issue," Rabbi Shira Stern, who heads the Women's
RabbinicNetwork, told CNSNews.

"For Jews who have no choice in the matter of sexual identity, we as leaders of the 
movement must provide them with the religious framework
in which to celebrate their union.

The resolution applies to the 1,800 members of the Central Conference of American 
Rabbis, who serve at least 1.5 million Reform Jews. Reform
Judaism is the largest and most liberal of Judaism's three major branches in North 
America.

Rabbi Charles Kroloff, CCAR's president, told AP that the resolution shows the 
conference's belief that "gay and lesbian Jews, and the
committed relationships they form with their partners, deserve the recognition and 
respect due to people created in the image of God."

For more than a decade, Reform rabbis across the United States have led same-sex 
ceremonies at their synagogues with varying degrees of
formality, from simple blessings of a gay Jewish home to full-fledged wedding 
facsimiles, rings and all.

"It is not sinful to be a gay and lesbian," Rabbi Paul Menitoff, executive vice 
president of CCAR, said. "It is sinful to have these
prejudices and act out on them."

Both Kroloff and Menitoff stressed the same-sex ceremonies weren't civil marriages 
recognized by law, but Kroloff said that some rabbis who
have already been performing the ceremonies call them marriages.

The Torah condemns male homosexual intercourse, but a decade ago Reform Judaism 
approved openly gay rabbis. Reform Judaism's rabbinate bases
its position on contemporary understanding of homosexuality and the Jewish values of 
human dignity and justice.


(© 2000, Maranatha Christian News Service)
http://www.mcjonline.com/news/00/2331d.htm

Bard

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Re: [CTRL] [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Don Huffman

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Dear Jim,

What you seem to be saying is that every country has a criminal element
and I think you are not holding it against Jews who in ignorance believe
and do what these scoundrals advocate.

That once the truth is out about their anti-Catholisim comes out; they
go under ground for a while; proving that a wounded animal is most dan-
gerous when it is dying.

Satan knows he's beaten; though he goes farting around deceiving many to
think he is powerful. He is the father of all lies and all murderers and
it is he who all believers in God should blame FIRST.


Thank you for 
your comments,


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Re: [CTRL] Israeli Apartheid Approach Showing Cracks (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Don Huffman

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Peter:

Is it true when Israel closes off the Jordanian border that a Jordanian
can not even get through by ambulance to hospitals in Israel for any
reason whatsoever?


Sincerely,


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Re: [CTRL] Rabbis Approve Same-Sex Unions

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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I think EVERY rabbi should be in such a union!
FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Rabbis Approve Same-Sex Unions

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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I think rabbits should be in such unions too-no more pop explosion
problem!
FWP.

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 I think EVERY rabbi should be in such a union!
 FWP.

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Re: [CTRL] Rabbis Approve Same-Sex Unions

2000-04-02 Thread Bard

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Franklin, You're too much Dude!  lol
Bard

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 I think rabbits should be in such unions too-no more pop explosion
 problem!
 FWP.

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  I think EVERY rabbi should be in such a union!
  FWP.

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[CTRL] [BCPolitics] SNET: John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint (fwd)

2000-04-02 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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Subject: [BCPolitics] SNET: John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint (fwd)

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Subject: [BCPolitics] SNET: John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint (fwd)

Perhaps your problem John (bcc) is that when you "juice up" that machine
you worry the neighbours. I think in the video you gave me you mention
working in the wee hours of the morning because all the lights in the
neighbourhood would dim otherwise. Just a suggestion from one mad
scientist to another!
FWP.

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John Hutchison Raided At Gunpoint
By Canadian Police

Reporting From Shreveport, Louisiana
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http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/8863/index.html

Word has been received this morning, Saturday, 18 March 2000, that John
Hutchison has been raided at gunpoint by Canadian Police. John's
apartment in New Westminster, British Columbia, was raided at 2 PM
Friday, 17 March 2000, by gun-wielding police searching for firearms.  An
antique gun collection owned by Hutchison was confiscated in its entireity.

According to Hutchison, a phone call was received at about 2 PM Friday,
stating that it was the police, and asking John to answer his door.
Hutchison states that there were 8 to 10 individuals pointing weapons at
him, only two or three of whom were in uniform. The rest were dressed in
dark clothing.

Hutchison was handcuffed and placed on the outside steps while police
searched the apartment.  No warrant was claimed or shown at any time.
Police stated only that there had been an anonymous complaint that
firearms were being brought into the apartment.

Police also called in an "electrical inspector" to examine John's lab
equipment.  This is the famous "Hutchison apparatus" with which John
produces the renowned "Hutchison Effect."

Additional individuals dressed in suits were brought in who took extensive
photographs of the Hutchison apparatus.  Hutchison indicates that these
persons had an "official air" about them, and that they might be
Government agents, especially given the confiscation of the original
Hutchison lab, which took place while John was out of the country in 1990.
None of these persons showed any identification. Those who have followed
John's career of invention and innovation will recall that his first laboratory
was forcibly seized by the Canadian Government on 24 February 1990 by
the direct order of former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney.  The
Government has retained the lab in spite of a court order by Judge Paris of
the Supreme Court of British Columbia to return it.

A previous raid on John Hutchison's apartment involving his collection of
antique firearms occured in 1978, and processing took two years.  The
confiscated antiques were returned at the order of Judge Cronin.  These
events occured under the administration of former PM Pierre Trudeau.
Former PM Joe Clark, who took over in the 1980s following the Trudeau
administration, wrote to Hutchison offering help and support.

The present raid follows close on the heels of a recent successful levitation
performed 11 October 1999 which was videotaped by John.  The effect
was achieved after six days worth of attempts.

However, neighbors called local police to complain about Hutchison's
experiment.  It is unclear whether something in their apartment levitated,
although there is no other way known at this time that they could have been
aware of the levitation experiment that was in progress.  The neighbors in
question live across the street from Hutchison.

The sound of approaching sirens was recorded on the video soundtrack of
Hutchison's camcorder during the experiment, and video of some
emergency vehicles and personnel was obtained.

Further updates on the situation will be posted promptly on this website.

Mark A. Solis
Shreveport, LA USA
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Japanese Toys For Real

2000-04-02 Thread lloyd

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..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:
Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html

From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [endsecrecy] Japanese Toys For Real
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:42 PM

DARPA Seeks To Build
Exoskeletons For Super Soldiers
EXOSKELETONS FOR HUMAN PERFORMANCE AUGMENTATION (EHPA) SOL
BAA00-34 DUE 063000 POC
Dr. Ephrahim Garcia, Fax (703) 696-3999
http://www.darpa.mil/baa/baa00-34.htm
3-26-00

From:
http://www.sightings.com/general/exo.htm


PROGRAM OBJECTIVE AND DESCRIPTION

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is soliciting
innovative research proposals on Exoskeletons for Human Performance
Augmentation (EHPA). The overall goal of this program is to develop devices
and machines that will increase the speed, strength, and endurance of
soldiers in combat environments. Projects will lead to self-powered,
controllable, wearable exoskeletal devices and/or machines.

The technological challenges that must be addressed are energy sources,
power by generation, haptic interfaces, control algorithm development, as
well as integration of actuation systems and all previously mentioned
subsystems into a machine with an anthropomorphic architecture. Highly
efficient actuators must be developed that can utilize a high density,
man-wearable energy source in both a safe and quiet manner.

The power provided to the EPHA system must support the exoskeleton for a
duration of military significance, initially estimated to be 4-24 hours.
Control approaches must be devised that enable direct and seamless
interaction between human and machine.

Finally, these devices and machines will be demonstrated in order to
evaluate their utility to various military operations. EHPA will enable new
capabilities for ground forces. Inclusion of exoskeleton technology into
land based operations will extend the mission payload and/or mission range
of the soldier. Exoskeletons will also increase the lethality and
survivability of ground troops for short range and special operations. The
enhanced mobility and load carrying capability provided by the exoskeleton
will allow soldiers to carry more ballistic protection and heavy weaponry.

To meet the challenges set forth, DARPA is soliciting devices and machines
that accomplish one or more of the following: 1) assist pack-loaded
locomotion, 2) prolong locomotive endurance, 3) increase locomotive speed,
4) augment human strength, and 5) leap extraordinary heights and/or
distances. These machines should be anthropomorphic and capable of bearing
distributed loads, such as that generated by extensive armor protection, as
well as typical pack loads. Other concepts for EHPA will also be considered
in this solicitation.

Methods of transforming high-energy dense power sources to actuation power
for these machines should be developed. Energy sources must be integrated
with compact, man-wearable power generators and, possibly, new types of
actuators that would allow long endurance missions. Concepts and designs
that fail to address the full integration of energy sources, power
converters and actuators into a complete exoskeleton system are generally
not of interest. However, development of enabling technologies of
extraordinary promise may be considered for support but are best melded into
a larger effort of realizing a complete system.

WHITE PAPERS

All white paper submissions will be evaluated for responsiveness to the
stated goals and objectives of this BAA. Those best meeting the criteria of
this BAA will be asked to submit a full proposal. Proposers must submit an
original and seven (7) copies of the white paper to DARPA/DSO, ATTN:
BAA00-34, 3701North Fairfax Drive, Arlington, VA 22203-1714 on or before
4:00 PM ET, April 21, 2000.

White papers submitted by email or fax will be disregarded.

White papers must meet the objective and format guidelines as described in
the Proposer Information Pamphlet (PIP) in order to be considered. White
papers are limited to seven (7) 1.5-spaced pages including cover sheet and
should contain:

1) concepts for addressing the technical goals of EHPA;

2) program plan with technical milestones for developing components and
critical subsystems;

3) integration approach and expected performance for an EHPA device or
machine for DoD applications;

4) projected impact of developments on DoD applications;

5) proposed funding level for the effort; and 6) descriptions of experience
and expertise of the performer(s) and sub-contractors.

Appendices will be NOT considered in the evaluation of white papers.

DARPA will acknowledge receipt of white papers within ten (10) business days
and assign a control number that should be used in all further
correspondence. Recommendations for full proposal submission will be made
within 

[CTRL] In pursuit of the ultimate weapon

2000-04-02 Thread Richard Sampson

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_695000/695981.stm

Thursday, 30 March, 2000,
  12:19 GMT 13:19 UK

  In pursuit of the ultimate weapon

  The Cambridge team were in a race with the
  enemy
  By Natasha Loder

  Wartime scientists have revealed how
  they tested chemicals on themselves
  as they searched for new weapons with
  which to fight the Germans.

  The researchers were part of a secret
  unit of chemists set up at Cambridge
  University, UK.

  The team quickly
  developed many
  potential
  compounds that
  were tested on
  animals. But to find
  out which were the
  most promising for
  the Ministry of
  Defence, the team
  would test
  potentially risky
  gases on
  themselves.

  The scientists have
  told their story to
  the journal Nature.
  Dr Fred Pattison,
  who worked in the unit in 1943, told the
  BBC: "There was a research team
  assembled to work in Cambridge during
  the last war to prepare new types of
  potential chemical warfare agents and
  they were for retribution in case a gas
  attack came from the other side.

  "Sometimes we went into the gas
  chamber armed with a pencil and paper
  for a 10-minute exposure and we noted
  down what we found on ourselves."

  Nerve gases

  Dr Pattison said the research team
  were trying to find out what symptoms
  the gases caused at doses too low to
  cause death. Temporary blindness was
  usually the first symptom experienced
  by the participants.

  Nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea were
  also sometimes the side-effects of the
  tests. But what nobody realised at the
  time was that some of the
  organophosphate compounds they
  were making and testing were what are
  now known as nerve gases.

  "On one occasion, after having been in
  the gas chamber, I found that I was
  virtually blind for about 10 days," Dr
  Pattison said. "Normally one can see
  the outline of a window at night-time
  but I couldn't see that and I was afraid
  that I was permanently blinded.

  "But I managed to stagger out of bed
  and turn on the light and the light
  showed up as a dim glowing bulb, so I
  knew I wasn't blind and after about 10
  days my sight returned to normal
  again."

  Many others on the team experienced
  temporary blindness but not usually for
  more than a couple of days. The
  scientists had to trust each other to
  make the correct calculations about
  what constituted a safe "sub-lethal"
  dose. Although this may seem like an
  extraordinary risk to us today, the
  chemists taking part say they saw it
  very differently in the context of a war.

  'Ultimate weapon'

  "I was one that felt that sitting there
  was a rather comfortable way of
  spending the war when friends were
  otherwise zooming off in their
  aeroplanes, or tramping across the
  deserts," said unit researcher John Ilett.
  "But you were doing the thing as a
  wartime job.

  "It was not a matter of staying up in the
  university as an academic but working
  on a war effort to enable the forces to
  have another weapon. A weapon we
  hoped would be an ultimate weapon."

  When the team found promising new
  compounds, such as diisopropyl
  fluorophosphate, these were developed
  at the Ministry of Defence's Porton
  Down research centre.

  And although the unit was broken up at
  the end of the war, much of its work
  laid the groundwork for the
  organophosphates which are still used
  as insecticides to this day.


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