Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
the oil drain plug is overtightened and rounded off. Why oh why do people overtighten so many things?? My sister-in-law has a rounded drain plug on her '91 Isuzu Rodeo. I was planning to try vise grips on it, but the oil sucker does work on that car with a tube inside the dipstick tube that can get to the bottom of the pan. I think that'll be one of the first projects in the new shop along with the oilchange in the SD. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
For comparison M1 is South Africa goes for about US$35 for 4 litre or US$45 for 5 litre . Only sold in 4 l containers. PEter -Original Message- From: tom savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 November 2007 06:02 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil LarryT wrote: > I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please > don't > tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) It could be worse. Mobil 1 was, IIRC, US$18/L at Carrefour (French WalMart) in Singapore a few years ago. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
Well, looks like I am going to have to finally try to construct an oil sucking unit, because the oil drain plug is overtightened and rounded off. Why oh why do people overtighten so many things?? Brian On 11/25/07, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Technically you are sucking the oil and not draining it, so we go the > drainers and suckers on the list. > I am a drainer because I also like to get under the car at least twice a > year to check the steering components and anything else. > > Hendrik > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I hate to be left out, so > > > > I drain my oil hot after a run, delayed only by the few minutes it takes to > > get out my Topsider and set it up. I have had no problems with using the > > thing > > in the seven years I've had it and the pickup tube has never melted despite > > all the old wives' tales to the contrary. > > > > By the way, my '08 C300 has a dipstick. Unlike my '01 C320 which had no > > dipstick, oil pressure gauge or idiot light. > > > > RLE > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Ah, that makes more sense. And also, David, this "engine job 18-005 Oil Circuit" - are you talking about the manual on CD or something? I don't know where to get my hands on one. Brian David wrote: Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. D. On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. > They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down > overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] synthetic oil prices
The advertisement is deceptive since all of the oil is at room temperature. 30 weight is 30 weight at operating temperature regardless of the oil. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] synthetic oil prices Unfortunately yes it is expensive over here, not sure why. Perhaps a lack of competition? Anyway I was in the local GM dealer the other day and on the counter they had an advertising thingy for castrol oils, basicallly it was three sealed tubes about 4 inches long with oil and a ball bearing. One tube had synthetic, one had semi-synthetic and the last had dino. The point of it was, when you tipped it over you could see the ball bearings 'race' each other down. The fully synthetic always won, the semi was half as fast and the dino took forever. Hendrik who had hours of fun watching the pretty ball bearings race LarryT wrote: > I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please don't > tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Not the bolt, just the two little black o-rings on the nether end. They leak when they get hard and the tappet gallery drains down overnight. Takes a while to pump them back up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
What you are looking for is o-ring 015-997-94-48, and you'll pay about 50 cents each for the two o-rings that fit around the bottom end of the shaft that locates the oil filter in its housing. The oil filter in most diesel MBs has two portions: a high-volume filtration (the open filter part at the bottom) which feeds the oil galleries, and a bypass portion (the top part with the small holes) that returns directly to the sump via the inside of the filter shaft. Those o-rings seal the base of the filter assembly, preventing pressure loss during running and preventing drainback after shutdown. Detailed images of the oil filter arrangement (incl o-rings) is in engine job 18-005 "Oil circuit", which also describes the overpressure valve, oil thermostat, and oil cooler functions. D. Zoltan Finks wrote: >Thanks. Hmm replace the center bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. > >Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still >wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any >problems. > >Brian > >On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center >> "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it >> now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the >> tappet. >> >> Peter >> >> -- David Bruckmann Systems Leader, North American Outsourcing Development & US Operations Transcontinental Printing - Newspaper Group Suite 219, 47102 Mission Falls Ct., Fremont, CA 94539 Tel +1 510-440-0198 Fax +1 510-440-0100 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
There's another site sponsored by VW that might be helpful www.vwvortex.com Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 9:48 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question Glenn Brown wrote: > A brother sent me the following query regarding his VW TDi: > I had my VW Beetle TDi serviced at 105,000 miles. The fuel filter was > replaced ($90.14) as well as the mass air flow sensor ($358.08). The service > advisor also recommended replacing the exhaust manifold which is clogged > with carbon deposits ($745.00). The engine has been sluggish lately, so I > don't doubt the diagnosis. I was wondering if you have experienced similar > problems with your M-B turbo diesels. Any advice would be appreciated. > TIA, I'll forward any knowledgeable suggestions to him. I would find someone who would clean the manifolds (if the exhaust is clogged the EGR has clogged the intake as well) instead of replace them. Seems pretty silly and expensive to me. He should probably look around for a good indy. Tell him to check out www.tdiclub.com They have a good forum there and they might be able to help more. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aimcmp000501 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil draining and sucking
> I think the suggestion was to rent a heater just so you don't have to > freeze your bum off while fixing the car. I stand in the plume from the torpedo heater. That way I catch a bit as it heads for the (nonexistent) ceiling and out the ridge vent. Salamanders, IIRC, are a particular type of heater with an oil tub and two pipes coming off of it. They flutter, kind of like a V1 pulsejet engine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
> If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100" > screen. :) If you're getting a projector, why not get a big screen? (Also smiley, our new projector is 80" and is pretty big.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
> that put pieces of carbon loose into the sylinder? Isn't having crap > loose > in the cylinder a bad thing? The crap is inside the prechamber, not the main cylinder. The usual instructions have you crank the engine with the GP out to blow the loosened crap out the open hole. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
The three that I am pretty sure are bad measured somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 ohms. I was using an anolog meter, so I don't know, but it was on 100 ohm, and it stopped around the middle. One and 5 looked like they were around 1 ohm. If they are carboned up they will be tougher to get out? How do I keep from breaking off the tips? On 11/27/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what resistance did you measure? Some meters might not give > accurate readings? > Well mind given your other comments likely they are bad. > > Disconnect the wires, don't drop the nuts, use one of those racheting > wenches. > If there is not a problem with carbon buildup they should just > unscrew. Otherwise you > are into fun to ensure you don't break the tips off. > > > My copy of the Beru glow plug manual notes: > > Observe the breakage torque when dismantling glow plugs. > On no account carry on turning - the glow plug could > otherwise break. Instead, proceed according to the 3-point > programme: heat up - release -unscrew: > > 1. Heat up: Run the engine until it is warm or apply > current to the intact glow plug through a separate cable > for 4-5 minutes - this heats up the glow plug and burns > it free. > > 2. Release: Apply a generous quantity of anti-rust agent or > multi-functional oil to the base of the thread and leave > to work in for approx. 5 minutes. > > 3. Unscrew: Then start a new attempt to unscrew the plug > and use suitable tools to release the glow plug from the > cylinder head. (Do not exceed the maximum release tor- > que - see table below. Make sure you stop before you > reach the breakage torque, if necessary start a new > attempt by applying heat.) > > After the old glow plugs have been removed, make sure you > clean the thread, the pin seat and the glow plug channel > with a suitable tool. > > Glow plug thread Breakage torque > 8 mm 20 Nm > 10 mm 35 Nm > 12 mm 45 Nm > > Observe the torque specified by the manufacturer when > screwing in a new glow plug: > > Note: The tightening torque of the connecting nut must be taken > into account when dealing with glow plugs with screw connection: > The Beru ring-ratchet-spanner > (order no. 0 890 100 002): ideal to dismantle and assemble glow > plugs, even in very tricky spots. > > Glow plug thread Tightening torque > M 4 2 Nm > M 5 3 Nm > M 8 10 Nm > M 10 12–15 Nm > M 12 20–22 Nm > > > Also see > http://www.beru.com/english/produkte/gluehkerzen/einbautipps.php > > > On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Chris Lane wrote: > > > Today I went outside with my newly liberated meter, and found that 3 > > of my 5 > > glow plugs seem to be bad. My glow plug light stopped working a > > little > > while back, and I have not been able to check that out until now. I > > measured the impedance of each one at the relay. So, I'm figuring > > that I > > should just change them all. The relay seemed ok, as much as I > > could check > > it out today. > > So my question is, is there anything funky about replacing them? > > Spark > > plugs are no problem, unless they are in a Toyota Previa (In which > > case you > > have to take out the passenger seat, and open the floor of the van > > to get to > > them). Its in an 82 300SD, so a 617. All five of them seem like they > > should be fairly easy to get to. The 5th one looks like the > > trickiest, just > > because of the oil filter housing, but there should be plenty of > > space. Are > > there any special tools that are needed to replace them? Do I just > > diconnect the wires, and get the appropriate sized wrench and start > > removing > > them, and then reverse the operation to install the new ones? > > Thanks, > > Chris > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > John > 1983 300TDt 385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > 1990's 300TDt 213k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > 1993 500SEL 201k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
So what resistance did you measure? Some meters might not give accurate readings? Well mind given your other comments likely they are bad. Disconnect the wires, don't drop the nuts, use one of those racheting wenches. If there is not a problem with carbon buildup they should just unscrew. Otherwise you are into fun to ensure you don't break the tips off. My copy of the Beru glow plug manual notes: Observe the breakage torque when dismantling glow plugs. On no account carry on turning - the glow plug could otherwise break. Instead, proceed according to the 3-point programme: heat up - release -unscrew: 1. Heat up: Run the engine until it is warm or apply current to the intact glow plug through a separate cable for 4-5 minutes - this heats up the glow plug and burns it free. 2. Release: Apply a generous quantity of anti-rust agent or multi-functional oil to the base of the thread and leave to work in for approx. 5 minutes. 3. Unscrew: Then start a new attempt to unscrew the plug and use suitable tools to release the glow plug from the cylinder head. (Do not exceed the maximum release tor- que - see table below. Make sure you stop before you reach the breakage torque, if necessary start a new attempt by applying heat.) After the old glow plugs have been removed, make sure you clean the thread, the pin seat and the glow plug channel with a suitable tool. Glow plug thread Breakage torque 8 mm 20 Nm 10 mm 35 Nm 12 mm 45 Nm Observe the torque specified by the manufacturer when screwing in a new glow plug: Note: The tightening torque of the connecting nut must be taken into account when dealing with glow plugs with screw connection: The Beru ring-ratchet-spanner (order no. 0 890 100 002): ideal to dismantle and assemble glow plugs, even in very tricky spots. Glow plug thread Tightening torque M 4 2 Nm M 5 3 Nm M 8 10 Nm M 10 12–15 Nm M 12 20–22 Nm Also see http://www.beru.com/english/produkte/gluehkerzen/einbautipps.php On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:55 PM, Chris Lane wrote: > Today I went outside with my newly liberated meter, and found that 3 > of my 5 > glow plugs seem to be bad. My glow plug light stopped working a > little > while back, and I have not been able to check that out until now. I > measured the impedance of each one at the relay. So, I'm figuring > that I > should just change them all. The relay seemed ok, as much as I > could check > it out today. > So my question is, is there anything funky about replacing them? > Spark > plugs are no problem, unless they are in a Toyota Previa (In which > case you > have to take out the passenger seat, and open the floor of the van > to get to > them). Its in an 82 300SD, so a 617. All five of them seem like they > should be fairly easy to get to. The 5th one looks like the > trickiest, just > because of the oil filter housing, but there should be plenty of > space. Are > there any special tools that are needed to replace them? Do I just > diconnect the wires, and get the appropriate sized wrench and start > removing > them, and then reverse the operation to install the new ones? > Thanks, > Chris > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 385k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 213k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 201k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
Ok, the reaming is actually something I have heard of, but never really understood what is being done. Its not cleaning the threads, its actually cleaning further in, as in in the chamber, am I correct on that? Doesn't that put pieces of carbon loose into the sylinder? Isn't having crap loose in the cylinder a bad thing? On 11/27/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > use a 12mm ratcheting box-end wrench to make access easier - hard to get > to > with sockets. Thread the new ones in by hand - last thing you want to do > is > cross-thread the holes.Some people put a little oil on the threads, > some > don't - I think the torque ratings for the plugs are for dry threads. > > If there's a lot of carbon in the holes, you'll probably want to ream out > the excess carbon before putting in new plugs. > > And don't lose the nuts holding the electrical wires on the plugs - > they're > a bear to relocate once they fall off into the engine bay. > > On Nov 27, 2007 10:55 PM, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Today I went outside with my newly liberated meter, and found that 3 of > my > > 5 > > glow plugs seem to be bad. My glow plug light stopped working a little > > while back, and I have not been able to check that out until now. I > > measured the impedance of each one at the relay. So, I'm figuring that > I > > should just change them all. The relay seemed ok, as much as I could > > check > > it out today. > > So my question is, is there anything funky about replacing them? Spark > > plugs are no problem, unless they are in a Toyota Previa (In which case > > you > > have to take out the passenger seat, and open the floor of the van to > get > > to > > them). Its in an 82 300SD, so a 617. All five of them seem like they > > should be fairly easy to get to. The 5th one looks like the trickiest, > > just > > because of the oil filter housing, but there should be plenty of space. > > Are > > there any special tools that are needed to replace them? Do I just > > diconnect the wires, and get the appropriate sized wrench and start > > removing > > them, and then reverse the operation to install the new ones? > > Thanks, > > Chris > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Sunil Hari > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 513-205-7474 > 614-441-8164 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
use a 12mm ratcheting box-end wrench to make access easier - hard to get to with sockets. Thread the new ones in by hand - last thing you want to do is cross-thread the holes.Some people put a little oil on the threads, some don't - I think the torque ratings for the plugs are for dry threads. If there's a lot of carbon in the holes, you'll probably want to ream out the excess carbon before putting in new plugs. And don't lose the nuts holding the electrical wires on the plugs - they're a bear to relocate once they fall off into the engine bay. On Nov 27, 2007 10:55 PM, Chris Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I went outside with my newly liberated meter, and found that 3 of my > 5 > glow plugs seem to be bad. My glow plug light stopped working a little > while back, and I have not been able to check that out until now. I > measured the impedance of each one at the relay. So, I'm figuring that I > should just change them all. The relay seemed ok, as much as I could > check > it out today. > So my question is, is there anything funky about replacing them? Spark > plugs are no problem, unless they are in a Toyota Previa (In which case > you > have to take out the passenger seat, and open the floor of the van to get > to > them). Its in an 82 300SD, so a 617. All five of them seem like they > should be fairly easy to get to. The 5th one looks like the trickiest, > just > because of the oil filter housing, but there should be plenty of space. > Are > there any special tools that are needed to replace them? Do I just > diconnect the wires, and get the appropriate sized wrench and start > removing > them, and then reverse the operation to install the new ones? > Thanks, > Chris > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
LarryT wrote: > I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please don't > tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) It could be worse. Mobil 1 was, IIRC, US$18/L at Carrefour (French WalMart) in Singapore a few years ago. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Changing glow plugs?
Today I went outside with my newly liberated meter, and found that 3 of my 5 glow plugs seem to be bad. My glow plug light stopped working a little while back, and I have not been able to check that out until now. I measured the impedance of each one at the relay. So, I'm figuring that I should just change them all. The relay seemed ok, as much as I could check it out today. So my question is, is there anything funky about replacing them? Spark plugs are no problem, unless they are in a Toyota Previa (In which case you have to take out the passenger seat, and open the floor of the van to get to them). Its in an 82 300SD, so a 617. All five of them seem like they should be fairly easy to get to. The 5th one looks like the trickiest, just because of the oil filter housing, but there should be plenty of space. Are there any special tools that are needed to replace them? Do I just diconnect the wires, and get the appropriate sized wrench and start removing them, and then reverse the operation to install the new ones? Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
If it has not been done yet, I would change the B2 piston while you have the tranny out of the car. In my SD it was doable but tricky with it still in the car. I don't know if a 124 is wide enough to pull it off. I'd also bet it could be done in half the time out of the car. Mine was leaking from a corner of the gasket, where the PO had left a bolt off the pan at some point. So that is possible at least. On 11/27/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After I got home today and was able to look at the oil, it has to be > ATF, and the trans was low. By today there was about a quart leaked > out on the driveway, i'd guess. > > IF the torque converter is loosing its oil, then replacing the front > seal on the trans would cure that? If I take the trans out, as a > min, I would reseal the whole thing, along with whatever the group > collectively thinks is worthwhile PM while it is out. I HOPE i don't > have to do that until spring, at least. > > Reason number 542 why I hate automatic transmissions and swore I'd > never learn to work on them > > > > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
After attaining a Mater's degree to assist people in helping themselves (therapist) and working for three years in the field I walked away and will never return again. Why? Pride in workmanship. I refused to play the games that administration wanted played concerning client confidentiality. Now that same administration has black balled me and I could not get a job even if they were in desperate need. My final take? I know that what I did was the right thing to do. I wake up every morning feeling good about life in general. Will I ever make a huge difference to the world? Absolutely not! BUT, my decision to say SCR _ _ You All (the administration) has left me feeling good about myself. :) Pride in whatever it is I do day to day and happy doing so. :) Dave H... -- From: "Timothy Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:59 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > Again with my 2 cents... > > I hear it all the time, "Well, that's what you get now-a-days." I'm sorry, > that's what some people "accept" now-a-days. > > It seems many tradesmen don't take pride in their work. It's all about the > pay. Satisfaction and pride have nothing to do with it. Well sorry, last > general contractor who wanted me to cut corners (as he does) I had just > this > conversation and I wound up refusing to sub for him anymore. His wife > called > saying I had hurt his feelings because I told him I was ashamed to be > associated with his work. > > Those of us who actually find a sense of accomplishment in our work are > often called compulsive or anal retentive. I've been told "They have pills > for that you know. Nobody's gonna see the wire after the walls are up." > > Word of mouth still goes a long way and I have a big mouth and a long > memory. Gary's Automotive in Candler, Gary and son, Todd are some of the > finest MB indies I've known. People like them I want to give business to > for > I want them to make well and be rewarded for good service! > > > > on 11/27/07 5:15 PM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the >> customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant, >> respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city. >> Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an >> example. >> >> When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several >> years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one >> gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more >> sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black >> cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts >> with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less >> saying hello. >> >> I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I >> simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and >> the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me. >> When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was, >> all he had to say was "aint gonna happen." I had to tell him to give >> me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to >> ask - so just do it! He replied "excuse me? did you just tell me just >> do it?!!" >> >> The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat >> customers that way - he held the power. >> >> The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular >> little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN. >> They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial >> and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance. >> >> Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic >> title is "rant". >> >> Brian >> >> On 11/27/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem >>> I >>> fear - >>> >>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >>> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >>> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >>> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >>> . >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant >>> >>> Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't >>>
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Not the center bolt, the o-ring on the center bolt. I've converted all my old engines (and new ones) to Mobil 1 and not had a single problem. The one with the most miles was the SDL at 270,000. On Nov 27, 2007 8:50 PM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. > > Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still > wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any > problems. > > Brian -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
The problems your brother describes are well-known issues with VW TDI engines. You didn't include the year of the car, but the solutions mentioned below are applicable to the non-PD engines (115hp, not 130hp) produced until about the end of the 2003 model year. There may be similar fixes for PD engines. The Bosch MAF sensor fails with regularity. I had three in my car in less than 50k miles. The solution is to use a Pierburg alternative, available from your local MB dealer. It is cheaper and apparently doesn't fail like the Bosch units, which are so sensitive that even an air filter changeout can release enough particles into the intake stream to damage the sensor. In Europe, the Bosch sensor failures were a huge problem affecting all diesels that used Bosch MAFs, which was almost everyone except MB and the French manufacturers (who use Pierburg or Thomson sensors). The other chronic failure, clogging, is actually the INTAKE manifold that is clogged, not the exhaust. This is caused by soot from the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), which mixes with oil from the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) and causes heavy deposits on the intake manifold walls. It also can prevent starting of the car when what VW calls an anti-shudder valve (ASV) in the intake manifold jams with soot. The ASV is activated when you turn off the engine, and is basically a choke flap that cuts off airflow at the same time the fuel is cut. The soot buildup can jam the valve, preventing the engine from starting. This happens with no warning, and unless you know what to look for (and wiggle/smack), you may be stranded. The intake clogging can be reduced through reduction of the EGR duty cycle. This can only be done through the car's VAG-COM interface. You can reduce oil fouling from the PCV by installing another MB part, a brass coil used on M117 gas engines, and known as a "flame arrester". It is about $5 and easy to install. (Pic attached) I will post more details about what your brother needs to do, but there's lots of info on tdiclub.com. D. PS: As a preventive measure, if your brother ever has the timing belt changed on that car, he should ask to have the engine mount bolts physically returned to him in a bag. This will ensure that NEW bolts are used. They are stretch bolts (single use) and will FALL OUT if reused, leaving your oil pan and engine dragging on the ground! At 3:49 PM + 11/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Message: 18 >Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:41:34 -0500 >From: "Glenn Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [MBZ] VW TDi question >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >A brother sent me the following query regarding his VW TDi: >I had my VW Beetle TDi serviced at 105,000 miles. The fuel filter was >replaced ($90.14) as well as the mass air flow sensor ($358.08). The service >advisor also recommended replacing the exhaust manifold which is clogged >with carbon deposits ($745.00). The engine has been sluggish lately, so I >don't doubt the diagnosis. I was wondering if you have experienced similar >problems with your M-B turbo diesels. Any advice would be appreciated. >TIA, I'll forward any knowledgeable suggestions to him. > >G. M. Brown >Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %FlameGuard.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 124 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071127/1ab7ec8b/attachment.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FlameGuard.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 8066 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071127/1ab7ec8b/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: %FlameGuard2.jpg Type: application/applefile Size: 125 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071127/1ab7ec8b/attachment-0001.bin -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: FlameGuard2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 15290 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071127/1ab7ec8b/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- -- David Bruckmann Systems Leader, North American Outsourcing Development & US Operations Transcontinental Printing - Newspaper Group Suite 219, 47102 Mission Falls Ct., Fremont, CA 94539 Tel +1 510-440-0198 Fax +1 510-440-0100 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list spo
Re: [MBZ] 124 wheels
According to my tech data book, you should have a 124.032 chassis, which uses either 15 hole alloy wheels of 6½ J x 15 H2 ET 48, or 8 hole alloy wheels of 6½ J x 15 H2 ET 44 (with suspension modification 40-0050 "A"). The sport suspension used 7 J x 15 H2 ET 41 in both 15 and 8 holes. The only other reference I see to wider wheels are 7x16s for the E420 and 8x16s for the E500. Could the "T" in the "TJ" be a 7? Tires for the 6½ rims are 195/65 ZR 15, and for the 7 rims are 205/60 ZR 15. On Nov 27, 2007 6:45 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the rim width is from this 124 wheel marking? > > TJ x 15 H2 > > I'm still trying to figure out if the original wheels for 94 E320 are > 15 x 6.5 or 15 x 7. I have heard differing answers. > > Thanks to all > > Loren -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ranting and raving
Another reason why I won't let a tire shop touch my lug bolts. I take the wheels off at home, take them to the shop for the new tires, and put them on myself (you have to have more than one car for this trick though). On Nov 27, 2007 6:12 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is advisable to double check the torque on wheel bolts/nuts after a > visit to the tire shop, unless you know that the shop do good work. > Another side affect of over tightened lugs is that if you have a flat it > is hard to undo with the standard tire wrench, especially for the fairer > sex. Nothing worse than going to the aid of a damsel in distress only to > find that the job has you beat as well. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Thanks. Hmm replace the cener bolt - wonder if that's an expensive part. Yeah, I came close to switching to Mobil 1 this time, but I am still wondering if switching an old engine to synthetic could cause any problems. Brian On 11/27/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center > "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it > now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the > tappet. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
After I got home today and was able to look at the oil, it has to be ATF, and the trans was low. By today there was about a quart leaked out on the driveway, i'd guess. IF the torque converter is loosing its oil, then replacing the front seal on the trans would cure that? If I take the trans out, as a min, I would reseal the whole thing, along with whatever the group collectively thinks is worthwhile PM while it is out. I HOPE i don't have to do that until spring, at least. Reason number 542 why I hate automatic transmissions and swore I'd never learn to work on them Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Likely a tappet. Change the o-rings on the oil filter cover center "bolt" next oil change, and switch to Mobil 1 if you are not using it now. If the noise will not go away, you will have to replace the tappet. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Ticking in the 117 engines, often is due to worn camshafts. I had bad tick on one and I spent a lot of time and money replacing lifters when the camshaft was problem. Basically my view point is that if the 117 ticks but does not miss at idle then don't worry about it. When it gets bad enough to cause drivability problems then you can worry. If the camshaft is the problem you will have to sort down the problem that made camshaft go bad. For example jack legged mechanic not replacing oil tubes correctly, bad oil pump, etc. Also if you remove the cam towers from a 117 be prepared to remove head and heil-core block. Thus there is nothing more expensive than a cheap gasser Mercedes with a lifter tick... My 420SEL got so screwed up by a jack legged mechanic that I had to shim the cam towers such that they would not bind the camshaft too much. I can not begin to tell you how bad they screwed it up. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
I'm not selling it for $400 - I bought it for $400. If your guy is really interested, give me his email address and I'll send him pictures. On Nov 27, 2007 7:17 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are selling it for $400? how ya gonna make money to impress the > GF like that? I know a guy who is looking. Tell me what ya want for it! > > At 02:06 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: > >$400. Not a bad deal. > > > >On 11/26/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Woohoo! How much? > > > > > > At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: > > > >it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, > new > > > >brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for > profit, > > > >don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood. > > > > > > > >On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Loren Faeth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. > > > > > > > > > > He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. > > > > > I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) > > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Sunil Hari > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >513-205-7474 > > > >614-441-8164 > > > >___ > > > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > Loren Faeth > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Sunil Hari > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >513-205-7474 > >614-441-8164 > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 costs in OZ
<> So you don't think his being in Australia might raise the price a tad? RLE ** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 wheels
Can anyone tell me what the rim width is from this 124 wheel marking? TJ x 15 H2 I'm still trying to figure out if the original wheels for 94 E320 are 15 x 6.5 or 15 x 7. I have heard differing answers. Thanks to all Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D with electric turbo
Looks like a heater fan out of a 66 Econoline van! Bet that really works! At 09:57 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Supercharger-Turbo-Kit-Civic-Prelude-Accord-CRX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33741QQihZ013QQitemZ230194073132QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW >This is what's required to get the 240D up up and away. > >OK Don wrote: > > How does a 190D stick compare to a stick 240D w123? > > > > On Nov 26, 2007 2:51 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> A 190D 2.2L is a race car compared to a 123 body 240D with an automatic > >> transmission. > >> > >> Tom > >> www.kegkits.com > >> > >> > > > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicative of a problem? Oh no! You're going to have to sell it to me for $501! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new addition
You are selling it for $400? how ya gonna make money to impress the GF like that? I know a guy who is looking. Tell me what ya want for it! At 02:06 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote: >$400. Not a bad deal. > >On 11/26/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Woohoo! How much? > > > > At 07:14 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: > > >it's the 4-speed manual. New clutch, new master and slave cylinders, new > > >brake system. Girlfriend thinks I'm selling it immediately for profit, > > >don't need to tell parents b/c I insure my own cars. Adulthood. > > > > > >On Nov 25, 2007 11:46 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Loren Faeth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sunil, you didn't say if it is an auto or the coveted 4 speed. > > > > > > > > He also didn't say what the girlfriend and parents think of it. > > > > I'm sure the parents are ecstatic. ;-) > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >Sunil Hari > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >513-205-7474 > > >614-441-8164 > > >___ > > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > Loren Faeth > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > >-- >Sunil Hari >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >513-205-7474 >614-441-8164 >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
Just what I thought, it is still factory only. One thing Rusty can't get!
At 01:51 PM 11/26/2007, you wrote:
>it's on back order
>
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>Rusty Cullens
>BuyMBparts, Inc.
>Tel 1-800-741-5252
>Fax 770-454-9745
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>- Original Message -
>From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
>Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
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> > RUSTY!
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> > What about the Factory only Synthetic Blinkenfluid price and
> > availability!???
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> >
> >>lol
> >>
> >>
> >>Rusty Cullens
> >>BuyMBparts, Inc.
> >>Tel 1-800-741-5252
> >>Fax 770-454-9745
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Peter T. Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> >>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 12:29 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's prices
> >>
> >>
> >> > And the RockAuto B.B.Q. is when?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Peter T. Arnold
> >> >
> >> > 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 17Kmi, No problems!
> >> > 1987 300SDL 280KMI Going soon
> >> > 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi
> >> > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
> >> > Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
> >> > is!
> >> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:38:16 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I am yet again thankful that I am able to buy parts from Rusty.
> >> >>
> >> >>His prices for the ignition lock I recently purchased are $ 208.00
> >> >>retail
> >> >>and $ 156.93 our price.
> >> >>
> >> >>I recently got an email from Rock Auto, the place where I bought the
> >> >>Bosch
> >> >>rubber caps to fix vacuum door lock actuators, reminding me of a
> >> >>discount
> >> >>coupon that would soon expire. I went to their site and looked at
> >> >>prices
> >> >>for parts for our '82 240D/3.0 (admittedly, their focus is domestic and
> >> >>not foreign, but ...) and found that their selling price for the same
> >> >>part
> >> >>is $336.79!
> >> >>
> >> >>To be fair, they do list the MANN Part # PF10551X oil filter for $7.51
> >> >>while Rusty lists a Mann filter for $ 8.81. They also list MANN Part
> >> >>#WK716 Fuel Filter: Spin on for $6.37 while Rusty lists Fuel Filter
> >> >>Mahle
> >> >>for $7.77 and Fuel Filter Bosch for $8.19. Comparing apples to apples,
> >> >>however, Rock Auto lists BOSCH Part #74012 {Fuel Filter #1457434153}
> >> >>Secondary fuel filter for $9.54.
> >> >>
> >> >>For air filters, Rusty is cheaper at $11.44 versus Rock Auto's $11.61.
> >> >>
> >> >>For wheel lug bolts, Rusty lists, Lug Bolt Febi (steel wheel) $ 1.51,
> >> >>and,
> >> >>Lug Bolt Febi (alloy wheel) $ 3.47. Rock Auto lists FEBI Part
> >> >>#2014010270
> >> >>{Wheel Bolt For steel wheel} $1.00 and FEBI Part # 1264010670F {Wheel
> >> >>Bolt
> >> >>For alloy wheel #1264010670} $2.54.
> >> >>
> >> >>Interesting.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Craig
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Oil puzzlement
It goes in the tube in the blinkenshift just behind the chrome framostat Duh At 11:59 AM 11/26/2007, you wrote: >lol, ok, got it! ;-) Noticed the "burn bulb" warning light on the dash >couple of days ago, and was all set to go and pick up a bottle of blinker >fluid. Couldn't for the life of me find in the manual where to pour it in >though!! ;-) > >Ed >300E > >On 26/11/2007, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > E M wrote: > > > > > > Ok, seen it a few times but never asked. What is blinker fluid? I'm > > > curious. :-) > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] synthetic oil prices
Unfortunately yes it is expensive over here, not sure why. Perhaps a lack of competition? Anyway I was in the local GM dealer the other day and on the counter they had an advertising thingy for castrol oils, basicallly it was three sealed tubes about 4 inches long with oil and a ball bearing. One tube had synthetic, one had semi-synthetic and the last had dino. The point of it was, when you tipped it over you could see the ball bearings 'race' each other down. The fully synthetic always won, the semi was half as fast and the dino took forever. Hendrik who had hours of fun watching the pretty ball bearings race LarryT wrote: > I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please don't > tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
Just a bit of rubber hose works very well too, one end on the engine, other at your ear. A monaural stethoscope! --R Tom Hargrave wrote: > This could be several things but most likely it's lifter noise. Can you get > your hands on a stethoscope? > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ranting and raving
It is advisable to double check the torque on wheel bolts/nuts after a visit to the tire shop, unless you know that the shop do good work. Another side affect of over tightened lugs is that if you have a flat it is hard to undo with the standard tire wrench, especially for the fairer sex. Nothing worse than going to the aid of a damsel in distress only to find that the job has you beat as well. LarryT wrote: > I went thru a similar situation with my 300D recently. Had the tires > rotated and the front end aligned. When they put the lugs on they were > wy to tight. When I got home I couldn;t break them loose. Took it back > to the shop and a huge guy came around with a torque wrench (clicker type) > and he wanted to prove he did it right - loosened one, and tightened it - > pulled it until it clicked and continued another 1/8 turn or so, then gave > it another pull for good measure for a total of 1/4 turn extra. Instead of > ~90 #s it was probably closer to 120 or more. > > I started to show him how to use a torque wrench but his attitude told me he > didn;t want anyone to show him the right way.When he warps someones > expensive rotors maybe he'll listen. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean Engine and underpants, Why
Why do you change your underpants? A few skid marks are not a problem, right? The problem with a dirty engine is that some of the crud may block/partially block an oil passage, leading to problems. Also a cleanish engine will stay cooler because oil is also a cooling agent. End of the day they are not designed to have half a tonne of sludge sitting in the engine and if it is possible to clean/keep clean it is advised to do so. If it was just in the bottom of the pan it would not be such a drama but when the top end is sitting under half an inch of black goo it is a worry. Hendrik with fresh underpants this morning Peter T. Arnold wrote: > I'm not sure why all of this somewhat impassioned talk goes on about a > "Clean Engine" > What is the reason that I should keep the internals of my engine > "Clean" > NOW don't misunderstand me, I am not in favor of Dirty engine but, I > do not get too excited if there is 1/4" of sludge in the bottom of my > pan. That's why the pan was designed the way it is, to hold settled > stuff for the lifetime of the engine. > It seem that changing oil on a regular basis does a fine job of > keeping the Lifters/Oil Passages/ Oil pick-up/rockers etc in a > serviceably clean condition. > What is to be gained doing any more? > > BTW, I switched my Benz from DINO to Mobile1 for the cold start > improvement at about 150Kmi. I changed oil at 10Kmi, analysis at that > time shoed the oil was about 30% spent. I began changing at 20KMI, > support by anaysis I could have gone to 25 or 30. No leaks, no oil > related problems. > > -- > > Pete Arnold > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
This could be several things but most likely it's lifter noise. Can you get your hands on a stethoscope? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ticking noise - normal or trouble
So I know if I was under the hood of a gasser and heard ticking coming from the rocker covers I would think a lifter was not getting proper oiling, or was collapsing or something. As I was under the 190D hood a bit ago attempting, yes attempting, to check the transmission fluid - stupid thing that dipstick is - I heard a somewhat intermittent tapping acompanying the normal klatta. Would tick for maybe 10 seconds, then stop ticking, then start again after a couple seconds. Is this normal racket to be coming from the engine? Or is this indicitive of a problem? Brian 87 190D 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
It's not Monopoly money, it's OZ money. I did not realize how expensive stuff was in Australia until beer customers started ordering stuff from my web site & paying Priority Mail (sometimes $100.00 +) without complaining. I started asking & I discovered that even with the outrageous freight, my beer stuff much cheaper than in OZ. Rusty needs to start marketing in Australia. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please don't tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil > The problem is that M1 is about 60 bucks for 5 liters but I guess engine > damage due to blocked oil feed lines is expensive as well. > > LarryT wrote: >> As others have suggested start running M1 and keep changing the filters >> every 1K miles - they're pretty cheap. The Synthetic will suspend the >> crud >> (slowly) and circulate it to the filter to be well, filtered ;-) >> >> I'd prefer running oil in the engine to the other stuff suggested >> (diesel, >> etc) since oil is supposed to run in the engine. Not sure what that >> other >> stuff would do to seals, gaskets, etc but we know oil wil not harm >> anything. >> >> It's not a fast process but it will eventually clean everything out. >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
I you lose your temper when you have a complaint, you've lost. You're complaint is no longer valid. Best to approach it with "the gentle art of verbal defense" remaining calmly focused on the actual complaint and how it is going to be resolved. It can't become a personal offensive/defensive thing no matter how much you want to question the person's lineage and reason for existence. on 11/27/07 5:30 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Around here a lot of government offices have notices on the counter that > essentially say our staff does not have to > put up with you yelling or using obscenities etc., and will not do so. Being a > customer service person in many of > these places means you deal with a lot of the crazies out there and take a > fair amount of personal abuse. My wife > works in the main library at the university here and she occasionally has to > tell a patron that they are out of > line and that she won't serve them so long as they insist upon being abusive. > They usually go off in a huff but > come back hanging their head after calming down. > So, I think that when normal people deal with some of the counter folks, the > counter folk are often ready for a > rampage because it just happens too often. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:16 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > > > Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the > customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant, > respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city. > Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an > example. > > When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several > years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one > gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more > sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black > cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts > with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less > saying hello. > > I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I > simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and > the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me. > When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was, > all he had to say was "aint gonna happen." I had to tell him to give > me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to > ask - so just do it! He replied "excuse me? did you just tell me just > do it?!!" > > The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat > customers that way - he held the power. > > The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular > little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN. > They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial > and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance. > > Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic > title is "rant". > > Brian > > On 11/27/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem I >> fear - >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> . >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant >> >> >>> Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect >>> among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who >>> appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, >>> etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled >>> her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal >>> with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem >>> to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, >>> daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. >>> >>> Oh well, enough on this... >>> >>> --R >>> >>> Mitch Haley wrote: I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For us
Re: [MBZ] Rant
on 11/27/07 5:24 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every new restaurant that opens seems like there's a line out the door of people waiting. The herds follow. Used to be that after a time of service and food "like s%#t" those places would fold. I'm amazed today that some places stay in business. If we think a service is unacceptable we're the odd one's with the problem? Duh! Sadly it's not just service businesses or product quality. It's in politics too!!! "That's what you get now-a-days." > The thing that I find even more disturbing is the effort that they put out to > convince you that they do provide > good service and care etc. > > A few years ago I had my old Suburban repaired after a minor accident. I took > it to a local body shop that I had no > experience with but had heard good things about. > > The fellow took me out to the vehicle after they called to advise it was ready > and I went to pick it up. They did a > lousy job of the repair. The front bumper was not mounted straight. I called > it to his attention and he gave me > some line of bull that Chevy's are like that and there is nothing they could > do about it. I said give me a few > minutes with a die grinder to elongate the holes and I will fix it myself. He > remained adamant that they could do > nothing. There was also a small dent in the leading face of the hood. I > commented that they hadn't repaired it. He > then stated that was not part of the job or some such nonsense. It certainly > was as it was caused by the same > accident that put me in their shop in the first place. By then I was angry > enough to tell him to stick it in his > ear and leave. The vehicle was old and imperfect anyway but it still made me > annoyed to think that they hadn't done > a good job but wanted me to pat them on the back anyway. When I got in the > truck there was a card on the dash that > said they had kept the interior clean and had not changed the settings on the > seat or the radio etc as a courtesy > to me. There was also a survey form that they wanted me to return to them to > tell them if they were doing a good > job. A few days later a nice young lady called to ask me in a cheery voice if > everything was ok and if I was still > happy with their work. She hadn't a clue what to say when I suggested she > speak to the fellow who had taken me out > to the truck about my complaints at the time that they hadn't done a good job > and his denial of the facts. They > haven't called again and I won't go near the place again. Unfortunately, I > think a lot of these places sell > themselves to stupid people by kissing the proverbial you know what. Then > people go around saying how nice these > folks are and that leaves poor suckers like me thinking that they do good > work. Go ahead and smmooze me if you must > but fix things properly or you are wasting your time. > > Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Rentfro > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:02 PM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > > > > > Rich hit the nail on the head: > > "Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can > detect..." > > Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, "Give-a-shitedness" is > rare these days. It's sad. > > Bob R. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: > A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement > bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family > members who leave the TV on all day. Very true! I wouldn't have to worry about bulb replacement that often as my primary TV usage consists of video gaming (one week I'll play for 30 hours then go 6 weeks and only play for maybe 5 hours) and light actual TV watching. On the other hand, my parents leave the TV on all day... even when they aren't watching it. Drives me nuts! John -who would have a projector if he had room for it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
I get 5 qts (~ liters) of Mobil 1 for around $22 at Walmart/ Please don't tell me you're really paying $60/5 Liters unless it's monopoly money ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil > The problem is that M1 is about 60 bucks for 5 liters but I guess engine > damage due to blocked oil feed lines is expensive as well. > > LarryT wrote: >> As others have suggested start running M1 and keep changing the filters >> every 1K miles - they're pretty cheap. The Synthetic will suspend the >> crud >> (slowly) and circulate it to the filter to be well, filtered ;-) >> >> I'd prefer running oil in the engine to the other stuff suggested >> (diesel, >> etc) since oil is supposed to run in the engine. Not sure what that >> other >> stuff would do to seals, gaskets, etc but we know oil wil not harm >> anything. >> >> It's not a fast process but it will eventually clean everything out. >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Clean Engine, Why
It's not about cleaning an engine as much as removing sludge that can block the oil pump pick-up and oil return galleries. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:01 PM To: Bez Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] Clean Engine, Why I'm not sure why all of this somewhat impassioned talk goes on about a "Clean Engine" What is the reason that I should keep the internals of my engine "Clean" NOW don't misunderstand me, I am not in favor of Dirty engine but, I do not get too excited if there is 1/4" of sludge in the bottom of my pan. That's why the pan was designed the way it is, to hold settled stuff for the lifetime of the engine. It seem that changing oil on a regular basis does a fine job of keeping the Lifters/Oil Passages/ Oil pick-up/rockers etc in a serviceably clean condition. What is to be gained doing any more? BTW, I switched my Benz from DINO to Mobile1 for the cold start improvement at about 150Kmi. I changed oil at 10Kmi, analysis at that time shoed the oil was about 30% spent. I began changing at 20KMI, support by anaysis I could have gone to 25 or 30. No leaks, no oil related problems. -- Pete Arnold Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Early withdrawal may result in interest penalty. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, Offer invalid where prohibited by law. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
I went thru a similar situation with my 300D recently. Had the tires rotated and the front end aligned. When they put the lugs on they were wy to tight. When I got home I couldn;t break them loose. Took it back to the shop and a huge guy came around with a torque wrench (clicker type) and he wanted to prove he did it right - loosened one, and tightened it - pulled it until it clicked and continued another 1/8 turn or so, then gave it another pull for good measure for a total of 1/4 turn extra. Instead of ~90 #s it was probably closer to 120 or more. I started to show him how to use a torque wrench but his attitude told me he didn;t want anyone to show him the right way.When he warps someones expensive rotors maybe he'll listen. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > The basic problem is that people don't take pride in their work anymore, > just do the basics and then expect a big fat pay cheque. > You can bet your boots that the person who did the sloppy window > installation would scream blue murder if it happened to them, easy to > see faults in others but hard to see own faults. > > Hendrik > who operates on a do the job 100% or don't do it principle, that way > nothing gets done > > Robert Rentfro wrote: >> I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone >> on >> site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers >> that way usually learned it from someone above them. >> >> That would have made me flip. >> >> Bob R. >> >> -Original Message- >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Again with my 2 cents... I hear it all the time, "Well, that's what you get now-a-days." I'm sorry, that's what some people "accept" now-a-days. It seems many tradesmen don't take pride in their work. It's all about the pay. Satisfaction and pride have nothing to do with it. Well sorry, last general contractor who wanted me to cut corners (as he does) I had just this conversation and I wound up refusing to sub for him anymore. His wife called saying I had hurt his feelings because I told him I was ashamed to be associated with his work. Those of us who actually find a sense of accomplishment in our work are often called compulsive or anal retentive. I've been told "They have pills for that you know. Nobody's gonna see the wire after the walls are up." Word of mouth still goes a long way and I have a big mouth and a long memory. Gary's Automotive in Candler, Gary and son, Todd are some of the finest MB indies I've known. People like them I want to give business to for I want them to make well and be rewarded for good service! on 11/27/07 5:15 PM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the > customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant, > respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city. > Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an > example. > > When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several > years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one > gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more > sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black > cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts > with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less > saying hello. > > I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I > simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and > the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me. > When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was, > all he had to say was "aint gonna happen." I had to tell him to give > me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to > ask - so just do it! He replied "excuse me? did you just tell me just > do it?!!" > > The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat > customers that way - he held the power. > > The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular > little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN. > They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial > and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance. > > Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic > title is "rant". > > Brian > > On 11/27/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem I >> fear - >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> . >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant >> >> >>> Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect >>> among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who >>> appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, >>> etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled >>> her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal >>> with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem >>> to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, >>> daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. >>> >>> Oh well, enough on this... >>> >>> --R >>> >>> Mitch Haley wrote: I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL
[MBZ] Clean Engine, Why
I'm not sure why all of this somewhat impassioned talk goes on about a "Clean Engine" What is the reason that I should keep the internals of my engine "Clean" NOW don't misunderstand me, I am not in favor of Dirty engine but, I do not get too excited if there is 1/4" of sludge in the bottom of my pan. That's why the pan was designed the way it is, to hold settled stuff for the lifetime of the engine. It seem that changing oil on a regular basis does a fine job of keeping the Lifters/Oil Passages/ Oil pick-up/rockers etc in a serviceably clean condition. What is to be gained doing any more? BTW, I switched my Benz from DINO to Mobile1 for the cold start improvement at about 150Kmi. I changed oil at 10Kmi, analysis at that time shoed the oil was about 30% spent. I began changing at 20KMI, support by anaysis I could have gone to 25 or 30. No leaks, no oil related problems. -- Pete Arnold Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Early withdrawal may result in interest penalty. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, Offer invalid where prohibited by law. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
what's the worst that can happen - you'll have a broken tv? You already have one of those! On Nov 27, 2007 4:43 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > > > > Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60" or so range > since > > > > that is what my old TV is. > > > > > > If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100" > > > screen. :) > > > > A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement > bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family > members who leave the TV on all day. I went through that thought > process, figured out it was a lot cheaper in the long run to spring > for a big LCD up front. Finally went with a Philips 47" 1080p for > $1800 from Best Buy. Couldn't be happier with it. Better picture and > much lighter and more compact than what it replaced (a 46" Mitsubishi > rear-projection, one of the first 1080p TVs but no great shakes now). > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
Do what I do in the 300DSL. Run conventional oil most of the time & mobil-1 once a year for a good cleaning. Since I started this, I've had no lifter noise from the engine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik & Fay Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil The problem is that M1 is about 60 bucks for 5 liters but I guess engine damage due to blocked oil feed lines is expensive as well. LarryT wrote: > As others have suggested start running M1 and keep changing the filters > every 1K miles - they're pretty cheap. The Synthetic will suspend the crud > (slowly) and circulate it to the filter to be well, filtered ;-) > > I'd prefer running oil in the engine to the other stuff suggested (diesel, > etc) since oil is supposed to run in the engine. Not sure what that other > stuff would do to seals, gaskets, etc but we know oil wil not harm anything. > > It's not a fast process but it will eventually clean everything out. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Donald Snook This Car Is Calling Your Name
Well not really. Just a 300d in KC http://kansascity.craigslist.org/car/490973386.html Not mine, no affiliation,ect. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
The problem is that M1 is about 60 bucks for 5 liters but I guess engine damage due to blocked oil feed lines is expensive as well. LarryT wrote: > As others have suggested start running M1 and keep changing the filters > every 1K miles - they're pretty cheap. The Synthetic will suspend the crud > (slowly) and circulate it to the filter to be well, filtered ;-) > > I'd prefer running oil in the engine to the other stuff suggested (diesel, > etc) since oil is supposed to run in the engine. Not sure what that other > stuff would do to seals, gaskets, etc but we know oil wil not harm anything. > > It's not a fast process but it will eventually clean everything out. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coulda been biodiesel?
Hurry, someone get a match... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Coulda been biodiesel? http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/5331835.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
The basic problem is that people don't take pride in their work anymore, just do the basics and then expect a big fat pay cheque. You can bet your boots that the person who did the sloppy window installation would scream blue murder if it happened to them, easy to see faults in others but hard to see own faults. Hendrik who operates on a do the job 100% or don't do it principle, that way nothing gets done Robert Rentfro wrote: > I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone on > site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers > that way usually learned it from someone above them. > > That would have made me flip. > > Bob R. > > -Original Message- > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Coulda been biodiesel?
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Re: [MBZ] Rant
Around here a lot of government offices have notices on the counter that essentially say our staff does not have to put up with you yelling or using obscenities etc., and will not do so. Being a customer service person in many of these places means you deal with a lot of the crazies out there and take a fair amount of personal abuse. My wife works in the main library at the university here and she occasionally has to tell a patron that they are out of line and that she won't serve them so long as they insist upon being abusive. They usually go off in a huff but come back hanging their head after calming down. So, I think that when normal people deal with some of the counter folks, the counter folk are often ready for a rampage because it just happens too often. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant, respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city. Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an example. When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less saying hello. I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me. When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was, all he had to say was "aint gonna happen." I had to tell him to give me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to ask - so just do it! He replied "excuse me? did you just tell me just do it?!!" The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat customers that way - he held the power. The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN. They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance. Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic title is "rant". Brian On 11/27/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem I > fear - > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > > > > Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect > > among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who > > appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, > > etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled > > her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal > > with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem > > to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, > > daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. > > > > Oh well, enough on this... > > > > --R > > > > Mitch Haley wrote: > >> I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure > >> out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag > >> and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have > >> done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or > >> even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. > >> Mitch. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version
Re: [MBZ] Rant
The thing that I find even more disturbing is the effort that they put out to convince you that they do provide good service and care etc. A few years ago I had my old Suburban repaired after a minor accident. I took it to a local body shop that I had no experience with but had heard good things about. The fellow took me out to the vehicle after they called to advise it was ready and I went to pick it up. They did a lousy job of the repair. The front bumper was not mounted straight. I called it to his attention and he gave me some line of bull that Chevy's are like that and there is nothing they could do about it. I said give me a few minutes with a die grinder to elongate the holes and I will fix it myself. He remained adamant that they could do nothing. There was also a small dent in the leading face of the hood. I commented that they hadn't repaired it. He then stated that was not part of the job or some such nonsense. It certainly was as it was caused by the same accident that put me in their shop in the first place. By then I was angry enough to tell him to stick it in his ear and leave. The vehicle was old and imperfect anyway but it still made me annoyed to think that they hadn't done a good job but wanted me to pat them on the back anyway. When I got in the truck there was a card on the dash that said they had kept the interior clean and had not changed the settings on the seat or the radio etc as a courtesy to me. There was also a survey form that they wanted me to return to them to tell them if they were doing a good job. A few days later a nice young lady called to ask me in a cheery voice if everything was ok and if I was still happy with their work. She hadn't a clue what to say when I suggested she speak to the fellow who had taken me out to the truck about my complaints at the time that they hadn't done a good job and his denial of the facts. They haven't called again and I won't go near the place again. Unfortunately, I think a lot of these places sell themselves to stupid people by kissing the proverbial you know what. Then people go around saying how nice these folks are and that leaves poor suckers like me thinking that they do good work. Go ahead and smmooze me if you must but fix things properly or you are wasting your time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Rentfro Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:02 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant Rich hit the nail on the head: "Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect..." Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, "Give-a-shitedness" is rare these days. It's sad. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant, respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city. Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an example. When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less saying hello. I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me. When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was, all he had to say was "aint gonna happen." I had to tell him to give me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to ask - so just do it! He replied "excuse me? did you just tell me just do it?!!" The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat customers that way - he held the power. The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN. They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance. Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic title is "rant". Brian On 11/27/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem I > fear - > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > > > > Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect > > among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who > > appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, > > etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled > > her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal > > with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem > > to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, > > daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. > > > > Oh well, enough on this... > > > > --R > > > > Mitch Haley wrote: > >> I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure > >> out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag > >> and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have > >> done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or > >> even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. > >> Mitch. > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
FYI long term use (like years and 30,000+ miles) slowed the rear main seal leak on my '96 Dodge Dakota (210,000 miles and still kickin). It was to about 1 qt in 500 miles and now (uhh 5 years and probably 100,000 miles later) its more like 1 qt in 2500 miles or more (mileage not quarts). Mobil 1 10w30, changed every time I remember, probably 8,000 or so miles. -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:44:16 -0600 From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Take a look here, http://www.auto-rx.com/. They claim to do what you want and I have some to try on a Toyota pickup. I am going to see if it will stop or slow down a front seal leak. Harry - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Rich hit the nail on the head: "Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect..." Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, "Give-a-shitedness" is rare these days. It's sad. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
As others have suggested start running M1 and keep changing the filters every 1K miles - they're pretty cheap. The Synthetic will suspend the crud (slowly) and circulate it to the filter to be well, filtered ;-) I'd prefer running oil in the engine to the other stuff suggested (diesel, etc) since oil is supposed to run in the engine. Not sure what that other stuff would do to seals, gaskets, etc but we know oil wil not harm anything. It's not a fast process but it will eventually clean everything out. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil > In recent issues, some have remarked that Mobil 1 or (maybe) > similar synthetic oils will clean out interior engine nasties, or > words to that effect. > > Is that for real? I'm talking about the black almost crusty crap > that may accumulate on interior engine surfaces. I'd like to > hear from someone who claims to have actually done it. > > Assuming it is for real, how does one use it for this purpose? > > Change oil and filter, obviously. Then run for how long? How > many miles/change oil and filter cycles are thought needful? > > In a past life I knew a fellow who would pour the same gallon > of diesel through an engine repeatedly for this purpose with engine > initially warm but not running. He would change the diesel when > he thought it was nasty enough and quit when he stopped getting > black nasties dissolved or suspended in fresh diesel.d > > Does anyone have any comment on that? > > Does anyone have a recommended other procedure for the > same purpose? > > Thanks all. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone on site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers that way usually learned it from someone above them. That would have made me flip. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - if he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is. The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole vehicle and vacuumed it also - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rant > Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West > Houston. Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her > Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there. So Fri I call > the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the > glass, came yesterday. So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) > later it is fixed, she is happy. But when I pick it up, I go look at it > to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, > fingerprints, oily film on it. I go in and ask the service person there > if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean > the glass. The service person wants to know if I want them to "detail" > the truck. No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and > some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it? Oh, someone made a mistake, > should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow. You > can't go find some windex and paper towels? No, I can't leave. How > about that guy that just drove it out? Oh, I can go try to find him if > you want... If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some > glass cleaner and some towels? Well if you come back tomorrow they will > take care of it. Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take > another hour or two to deal with this? > > By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken > off. > > 10AM and no call yet from the service manager. Am I crazy? Are my > expectations too high? > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread problem I fear - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect > among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who > appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, > etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled > her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal > with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem > to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, > daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. > > Oh well, enough on this... > > --R > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure >> out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag >> and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have >> done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or >> even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: > 11/27/2007 11:40 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: > > > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > > > Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60" or so range since > > > that is what my old TV is. > > > > If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100" > > screen. :) > A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family members who leave the TV on all day. I went through that thought process, figured out it was a lot cheaper in the long run to spring for a big LCD up front. Finally went with a Philips 47" 1080p for $1800 from Best Buy. Couldn't be happier with it. Better picture and much lighter and more compact than what it replaced (a 46" Mitsubishi rear-projection, one of the first 1080p TVs but no great shakes now). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Yep, I think I will research what parts I need and how to replace and do it myself. Still need to get a new TV though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > Hell, maybe I will just try and fix it myself. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > > >> It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: >> >>> So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 >>> years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it >>> today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and >>> some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the >>> picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of >>> fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be >>> looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about >>> TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. >> >> Yup. It's called "Projection TV Coolant". >> >> You can buy it from MCM Electronics >> http://mcmelectronic.com >> >> Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. >> >> I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. >> >> -- Philip >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Hell, maybe I will just try and fix it myself. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: > >> So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 >> years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it >> today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and >> some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the >> picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of >> fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be >> looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about >> TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. > > Yup. It's called "Projection TV Coolant". > > You can buy it from MCM Electronics > http://mcmelectronic.com > > Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. > > I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: > So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 > years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it > today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and > some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the > picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of > fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be > looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about > TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. Yup. It's called "Projection TV Coolant". You can buy it from MCM Electronics http://mcmelectronic.com Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > > Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60" or so range since > > that is what my old TV is. > > If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100" > screen. :) The room doesn't even have to be darkish. A projector can be quite flexible. You can even get different images sizes depending on what you are watching! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
Take a look here, http://www.auto-rx.com/. They claim to do what you want and I have some to try on a Toyota pickup. I am going to see if it will stop or slow down a front seal leak. Harry On Nov 27, 2007 12:39 PM, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In recent issues, some have remarked that Mobil 1 or (maybe) > similar synthetic oils will clean out interior engine nasties, or > words to that effect. > > Is that for real? I'm talking about the black almost crusty crap > that may accumulate on interior engine surfaces. I'd like to > hear from someone who claims to have actually done it. > > Assuming it is for real, how does one use it for this purpose? > > Change oil and filter, obviously. Then run for how long? How > many miles/change oil and filter cycles are thought needful? > > In a past life I knew a fellow who would pour the same gallon > of diesel through an engine repeatedly for this purpose with engine > initially warm but not running. He would change the diesel when > he thought it was nasty enough and quit when he stopped getting > black nasties dissolved or suspended in fresh diesel.d > > Does anyone have any comment on that? > > Does anyone have a recommended other procedure for the > same purpose? > > Thanks all. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
You have a point there and I have to agree. I was thinking some more about this, and reminded myself of taking the truck to them back a few months ago when the back glass blew out (design fault, recall on some but not all, same design). I worked them a bit on replacing it (was gonna be like $900), kinda alluded to a conversation I had with my lawyer buddy about similar problems, and they got right on it, replaced it for free a couple days later. They did not have to do that really (although I got the sense that they had been doing a lot of them not as recall but quietly acknowledging the problem), and did not give me much of a hard time, so I was thankful for that. I guess things balance out, I have spent too many cycles obsessing already. I sent an email to the head guy, will see if I hear back. I might call him to whinge a bit, though at this point that is all it is cause I don't want to waste any more time with them or the issue. --R Dave H... wrote: > Not only NO! But H _ _ L NO you should not just get over it! People > getting over it is exactly what caused everyone to do away with I grew up > believing was customer service. > > Why should Wal Mart hire more cashiers when we are happy just gripping about > standing in line? Why should a service center bother cleaning a window when > instead they could be earning more "Got Ya" bucks off another Joe?, etc. > etc. etc. > > People tolerate the bad service and the companies save money it is a win/win > situation for them. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 87 Ford F350
"Kaleb C. Striplin, work" wrote: > > So it will have more power than a GM 6.2? According to Wiki, the 1983-87 6.9 made 170hp, and the 88-91 7.3 NA IDI made 180. Pretty close to the way I remembered it. No idea how the GM was rated, except I seem to recall the 4.3 being rated at 85hp when my Dad had a 1983 Cutlass Ciera. His made nowhere near 85hp, (0-60 in 28 sec) but apparently a good example was a lot quicker. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
They have name brands -- Sony, Philips, Samsung. I think the Samsungs are about the best value. They had some huge ones there. Somewhere I read that Costco doubles the warranty, don't know about Sams. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > I wonder if those no name ones at sams will last though? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Not only NO! But H _ _ L NO you should not just get over it! People getting over it is exactly what caused everyone to do away with I grew up believing was customer service. Why should Wal Mart hire more cashiers when we are happy just gripping about standing in line? Why should a service center bother cleaning a window when instead they could be earning more "Got Ya" bucks off another Joe?, etc. etc. etc. People tolerate the bad service and the companies save money it is a win/win situation for them. Dave H... -- From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:41 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant > I talked to the service guy (I called him) and he was apologetic, did > not know why it wasn't cleaned (or the whole car was not washed) offered > an oil change. I can do that myself quicker than I go there, wait, come > home, deal with them, and I know it is actually done and correctly. I > suggested the service manager call me, which he did awhile ago, told me > how good his tech was and that he did a good job, did not know why he > did not finish it. At this point I guess there is not a whole lot more > to be said, but it still just really p's me off. I need to get over it. > > --R > > LarryT wrote: >> If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - >> if >> he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is. >> >> The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole >> vehicle >> and vacuumed it also - >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts >> Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil >> PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net >> Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs >> . >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM >> Subject: [MBZ] Rant >> >> >> >>> Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West >>> Houston. Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her >>> Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there. So Fri I call >>> the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the >>> glass, came yesterday. So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) >>> later it is fixed, she is happy. But when I pick it up, I go look at it >>> to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, >>> fingerprints, oily film on it. I go in and ask the service person there >>> if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean >>> the glass. The service person wants to know if I want them to "detail" >>> the truck. No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and >>> some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it? Oh, someone made a mistake, >>> should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow. You >>> can't go find some windex and paper towels? No, I can't leave. How >>> about that guy that just drove it out? Oh, I can go try to find him if >>> you want... If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some >>> glass cleaner and some towels? Well if you come back tomorrow they will >>> take care of it. Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take >>> another hour or two to deal with this? >>> >>> By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken >>> off. >>> >>> 10AM and no call yet from the service manager. Am I crazy? Are my >>> expectations too high? >>> >>> --R >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: >>> 11/27/2007 11:40 AM >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merce
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Sounds like you experienced the "DMV Syndrome", which is defined as: They think you need them and that they don't need you, so they don't have to be nice. Not trying to stir the embers, but I am a huge stickler for customer service, and I would be ticked too. Just remember it probably wasn't personal. Brian On 11/27/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West > Houston. Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her > Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there. So Fri I call > the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the > glass, came yesterday. So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) > later it is fixed, she is happy. But when I pick it up, I go look at it > to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, > fingerprints, oily film on it. I go in and ask the service person there > if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean > the glass. The service person wants to know if I want them to "detail" > the truck. No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and > some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it? Oh, someone made a mistake, > should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow. You > can't go find some windex and paper towels? No, I can't leave. How > about that guy that just drove it out? Oh, I can go try to find him if > you want... If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some > glass cleaner and some towels? Well if you come back tomorrow they will > take care of it. Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take > another hour or two to deal with this? > > By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off. > > 10AM and no call yet from the service manager. Am I crazy? Are my > expectations too high? > > --R > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
Ideally you want to use an oil with lots of detergents thats good at suspending crud and depositing it in the filter. Synthetic oil is great at that. However that said I'm sure good diesel oils are also quite good. My 190D was badly gunked up. Early oil analysis indicated very high iron levels. However after a couple changes and hard driving the iron levels started to come down and now (nearly 2 years later) are normal at 10,000 mile intervals. If I had another badly gunked up engine I'd probably run conventional oil in it and change at 3,000 miles. If that sample showed high levels of any bad stuff I'd run conventional again until the gunk levels (iron and such) came under control, then I'd switch to synthetic and work up to a longer interval. -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:39:27 -0600 From: "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In recent issues, some have remarked that Mobil 1 or (maybe) similar synthetic oils will clean out interior engine nasties, or words to that effect. Is that for real? I'm talking about the black almost crusty crap that may accumulate on interior engine surfaces. I'd like to hear from someone who claims to have actually done it. Assuming it is for real, how does one use it for this purpose? Change oil and filter, obviously. Then run for how long? How many miles/change oil and filter cycles are thought needful? In a past life I knew a fellow who would pour the same gallon of diesel through an engine repeatedly for this purpose with engine initially warm but not running. He would change the diesel when he thought it was nasty enough and quit when he stopped getting black nasties dissolved or suspended in fresh diesel.d Does anyone have any comment on that? Does anyone have a recommended other procedure for the same purpose? Thanks all. - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60" or so range since > that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100" screen. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
Glenn Brown wrote: > A brother sent me the following query regarding his VW TDi: > I had my VW Beetle TDi serviced at 105,000 miles. The fuel filter was > replaced ($90.14) as well as the mass air flow sensor ($358.08). The service > advisor also recommended replacing the exhaust manifold which is clogged > with carbon deposits ($745.00). The engine has been sluggish lately, so I > don't doubt the diagnosis. I was wondering if you have experienced similar > problems with your M-B turbo diesels. Any advice would be appreciated. > TIA, I'll forward any knowledgeable suggestions to him. Found an FAQ answer at TDI Club http://tdiclub.com/TDIFAQ/TDiFAQ-7.html#g ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60" or so range since that is what my old TV is. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > Just some places to look around for deals on new TVs... > > http://slickdeals.net/ > http://dealnews.com/ > http://www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ > > For a data point, it seems that 42" 1080P TVs are going for ~1000 pretty > regularly. Lots of other good stuff there as well :) > > John > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
Speaking of VAG, when I was at that VW shop closing auction, I bought this big case of cables that says something like VAG 1598 or something like that. I will take a picture but what the hell is it. If I cant use it on anything MB, I will probably ebay it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question > You must be referring to the VAG-COM software. I don't think it's > quite that much, but maybe so. > > On Nov 27, 2007 11:22 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Zeitgeist wrote: >> > I believe the computer requires more trickery in order to disable the >> > EGR. IIRC, the computer throws a fault code and goes into limp mode >> > if it detects that the EGR is no longer functioning. I'm sure some of >> > the 'puter wizzes over at the TDI Club have figured out a way around >> > this by now. >> >> IIRC, you have to buy a ~$400 setup that allows you to re-program the >> factory settings. You basically set exhaust gas recirc. flow to zero >> and all is well. >> >> John >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
you don't have to know anything. you just research it online and they tell you how. you can then decide whether the job is too much for you or not. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I dont know the first thing about fixing tv's. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:20 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > > > > in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the > > cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily > > and cheaply on ebay. > > > > it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. > > > > but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an > > excuse to upgrade. > > > > On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years > >> has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they > >> say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of > >> cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not > >> as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want > >> $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I > >> got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. > >> > >> --- > >> Kaleb C. Striplin > >> Cox Auto Trader > >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
Zeitgeist wrote: > You must be referring to the VAG-COM software. I don't think it's > quite that much, but maybe so. Yep! Couldn't remember the name... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Just some places to look around for deals on new TVs... http://slickdeals.net/ http://dealnews.com/ http://www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ For a data point, it seems that 42" 1080P TVs are going for ~1000 pretty regularly. Lots of other good stuff there as well :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
You must be referring to the VAG-COM software. I don't think it's quite that much, but maybe so. On Nov 27, 2007 11:22 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zeitgeist wrote: > > I believe the computer requires more trickery in order to disable the > > EGR. IIRC, the computer throws a fault code and goes into limp mode > > if it detects that the EGR is no longer functioning. I'm sure some of > > the 'puter wizzes over at the TDI Club have figured out a way around > > this by now. > > IIRC, you have to buy a ~$400 setup that allows you to re-program the > factory settings. You basically set exhaust gas recirc. flow to zero > and all is well. > > John > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
Zeitgeist wrote: > I believe the computer requires more trickery in order to disable the > EGR. IIRC, the computer throws a fault code and goes into limp mode > if it detects that the EGR is no longer functioning. I'm sure some of > the 'puter wizzes over at the TDI Club have figured out a way around > this by now. IIRC, you have to buy a ~$400 setup that allows you to re-program the factory settings. You basically set exhaust gas recirc. flow to zero and all is well. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
I dont know the first thing about fixing tv's. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? > in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the > cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily > and cheaply on ebay. > > it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. > > but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an > excuse to upgrade. > > On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years >> has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they >> say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of >> cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not >> as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want >> $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I >> got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. >> >> --- >> Kaleb C. Striplin >> Cox Auto Trader >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
I wonder if those no name ones at sams will last though? Somebody posted a
list of good brands and ones to stay away from. Might have to see if I can
find that. Yea, I think he said it was for cooling or something. I guess
it projects thru this fluid and if it clouds the pic is not as good.
Anyway, he said those Phillips Magnavox tvs were junk when new.
---
Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor
- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
> That is a projection TV, with 3 big CRTs that put out a lot of light and
> heat. They probably do have some sort of coolant (silicone?) to keep
> them from melting, and maybe it is like auto fluids that just use up
> their capabilities after a time of heating/cooling cycles. Not sure why
> that would affect the picture, but it sounds sorta reasonable. Perhaps
> you could try some of the German synthetic blinker fluid? Boards go bad
> too, temp cycling kills components.
>
> All the big retailers are fighting hard for your dollar, time to go work
> them over good. You might want to wait a coupla weeks to just before
> Christmas when they are reaching hard, then get a 30day price guarantee
> and keep an eye on post-Christmas prices.
>
> Sams Club had some nice TVs at decent prices on Saturday. Wifey was
> wanting a flat screen for the BR, they had some good prices on Vizios so
> I got a 32" LCD 720P. The display had no price on it, but there was a
> folded up paper there next to it, which I looked at to see if it was a
> price. Turns out it was an internal email listing about 40 products
> they were putting out with killer prices, on Friday ("THIS IS BIG!!" it
> said). Those TVs were on the list. While I was looking at it, some
> other guy came by and got one also. It looks very nice, kind of a
> mid-range quality and price it appears, and has some interesting
> features. Good for BR. It also found a bunch of the digital cable
> channels and HD channels too, without a cable box, but on weird numbers
> so I have to make up a menu for it. Or I might have to get another box
> now. They had some cheap DVD players too that upconvert and have HDMI
> connections, have not hooked that up yet.
>
> Merry Christmas to me!
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily and cheaply on ebay. it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an excuse to upgrade. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has > been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it > needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or > something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should > be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I > will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread > about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
That is a projection TV, with 3 big CRTs that put out a lot of light and
heat. They probably do have some sort of coolant (silicone?) to keep
them from melting, and maybe it is like auto fluids that just use up
their capabilities after a time of heating/cooling cycles. Not sure why
that would affect the picture, but it sounds sorta reasonable. Perhaps
you could try some of the German synthetic blinker fluid? Boards go bad
too, temp cycling kills components.
All the big retailers are fighting hard for your dollar, time to go work
them over good. You might want to wait a coupla weeks to just before
Christmas when they are reaching hard, then get a 30day price guarantee
and keep an eye on post-Christmas prices.
Sams Club had some nice TVs at decent prices on Saturday. Wifey was
wanting a flat screen for the BR, they had some good prices on Vizios so
I got a 32" LCD 720P. The display had no price on it, but there was a
folded up paper there next to it, which I looked at to see if it was a
price. Turns out it was an internal email listing about 40 products
they were putting out with killer prices, on Friday ("THIS IS BIG!!" it
said). Those TVs were on the list. While I was looking at it, some
other guy came by and got one also. It looks very nice, kind of a
mid-range quality and price it appears, and has some interesting
features. Good for BR. It also found a bunch of the digital cable
channels and HD channels too, without a cable box, but on weird numbers
so I have to make up a menu for it. Or I might have to get another box
now. They had some cheap DVD players too that upconvert and have HDMI
connections, have not hooked that up yet.
Merry Christmas to me!
--R
Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote:
> So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has
> been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it
> needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or
> something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should
> be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I
> will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread
> about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route.
>
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[MBZ] 126 Hazard Switch
Not that I've had to use it, but I cannot get the hazard lught function on my 83 300SD to function. I've tried two switches and checked, replaced fuses with no effect. Turn the switch "on" and nothing, and no turn indicators. With the swicth in the "off" position turn indicators work fine. Definitely not the same set-up as the 123. Anybody have word of wisdom or guidance? Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 87 Ford F350
So it will have more power than a GM 6.2? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 87 Ford F350 > > > dave walton wrote: >> >> I have a diesel 6.9 F250 4-speed manual. It gets 13-14 mpg when empty. >> 13-14 mpg when full, and 13-14 mpg when pulling a 4-ton Bobcat. > > ...which is way better than a friend's F250/6.9/C6 that had been converted > to a dually. Top speed on that rig was in the 60's and mpg rarely hit > double > digits. Both mph and mpg were likely limited by short gearing. I believe > HP was in the neighborhood of 160-170 when new. AFAIK there were no > factory > turbo 6.9s. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
So my Phillips Magnavox 60" bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning enigine inside with synthetic oil
"Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In recent issues, some have remarked that Mobil 1 or (maybe) similar > synthetic oils will clean out interior engine nasties, or words to > that effect. > > Is that for real? I'm talking about the black almost crusty crap > that may accumulate on interior engine surfaces. I'd like to hear > from someone who claims to have actually done it. > > Assuming it is for real, how does one use it for this purpose? It's a slow process. Just switch to synthetic. If you know that the motor is really dirty change the filter often, maybe every thousand miles or so, a few times. May take tens of thousands of miles to really clean everything out. No, I've never torn down an engine to verify that it's clean. But enough knowledgable people (e.g. Marshall) have made the cleaning claim about Mobil 1 that I have no reason to doubt it. > In a past life I knew a fellow who would pour the same gallon of > diesel through an engine repeatedly for this purpose with engine > initially warm but not running. He would change the diesel when he > thought it was nasty enough and quit when he stopped getting black > nasties dissolved or suspended in fresh diesel.d I've heard of using transmission fluid (e.g. drain the oil and fill with transmission fluid), and running at idle speed only, to clean up stuck rings, etc. I don't think I'd do it unless the only other option was a rebuild, but some people have reported success. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
No, you're not. Call the General Manager NOW and tell him you're looking at Dodge and Ford because they have better customer service. I deal with crap like this all the time at work. Start the $#!T ball as high as you can and watch it roll down hill. Luther On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:02:53 -0600, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West > Houston. Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her > Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there. So Fri I call > the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the > glass, came yesterday. So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) > later it is fixed, she is happy. But when I pick it up, I go look at it > to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, > fingerprints, oily film on it. I go in and ask the service person there > if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean > the glass. The service person wants to know if I want them to "detail" > the truck. No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and > some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it? Oh, someone made a mistake, > should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow. You > can't go find some windex and paper towels? No, I can't leave. How > about that guy that just drove it out? Oh, I can go try to find him if > you want... If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some > glass cleaner and some towels? Well if you come back tomorrow they will > take care of it. Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take > another hour or two to deal with this? > > By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off. > > 10AM and no call yet from the service manager. Am I crazy? Are my > expectations too high? > > --R > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
Exactly. There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect among the proles. There was only one service writer there, a woman, who appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal with it) and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too. Anyway, daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point. Oh well, enough on this... --R Mitch Haley wrote: > I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure > out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag > and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have > done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or > even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
I believe the computer requires more trickery in order to disable the EGR. IIRC, the computer throws a fault code and goes into limp mode if it detects that the EGR is no longer functioning. I'm sure some of the 'puter wizzes over at the TDI Club have figured out a way around this by now. On Nov 27, 2007 9:54 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The VW TDIs, at least the late-'90s 1.9 liter engines with which I'm > > familiar, are notorious for clogging the manifolds with soot due to > > overzealous EGR, much like the 603 engine. > > Can the EGR be disabled with a BB like an OM617? > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VW TDi question
"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The VW TDIs, at least the late-'90s 1.9 liter engines with which I'm > familiar, are notorious for clogging the manifolds with soot due to > overzealous EGR, much like the 603 engine. Can the EGR be disabled with a BB like an OM617? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Parking car in gear
On Nov 26, 2007 3:21 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As for the suggestion to leave the lever in neutral so that the lever > wouldn't get stuck in 'P' if the parking brake didn't hold on a hill, > would you rather return to your car to find tension on the parking > pawl, or perhaps it's better to find your car not where you left it > if the p-brake doesn't hold? The 'P' on the tranny is there for > redundancy in case the p-brake fails. Using it *except* when on a > hill where it might be useful is silly. Ditto. Like the street signs in San Francisco say, "CURB WHEELS - SET CAR IN GEAR"! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rant
I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
