Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Christophe Merlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You'll find a patch for the gimp/po/fr.po file attached to this mail. I > > hope this is the right list for this. > > Thanks, > I'll commit your patch. feel free to commit, but please commit to the stable branch (gimp-1-2). Salut, Sven _

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Re: xwd screen shot problems

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Any idea about how to capture images? Is there an env var or something > that exchanges the speed for the visibility? Screenshots with blue > areas are not very nice (I am using mplayer now, BTW). this is getting off-topic

[Gimp-developer] Re: current gimp status and a patch for apply_lens.

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, at least to make the jpeg plugins to compile (and works!) again, > I just had to remove the '#' in front of its definition in > plugin-defs.pl. Did I miss something important? if I remember correctly, the JPEG plug-in uses a textarea which is

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Christophe Merlet
Sven Neumann wrote: > > Christophe Merlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > You'll find a patch for the gimp/po/fr.po file attached to this mail. I > > > hope this is the right list for this. > > > > Thanks, > > I'll commit your patch. > > feel free to commit, but please commit to the stable

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Christophe Merlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This was a patch against the HEAD branch of gimp... then I've commited > to the HEAD branch... fine. I just want to take the opportunity to explain once again how we treat translations at the moment and why we do it this way. The CVS HEAD ver

[Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Grzegorz Borowiak
I have a problem with drawing lines with pencil. Horizontal and vertical lines are OK, but slash lines are too thick. In zoom, they look like: ### ### ## ### ### ## ### ### and IMO they should look like: ## ## # ## ## #

[Gimp-developer] Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, I plan to merge translations from the stable gimp branch ("gimp-1-2") to the HEAD branch very soon now and hereby ask all translators to assure that the translations in the stable branch are up-to-date. If you have committed changes to the HEAD branch, please make sure the stable branch conta

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Grzegorz Borowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a problem with drawing lines with pencil. Horizontal and vertical > lines are OK, but slash lines are too thick. In zoom, they look like: > > ### > ### > ## > ### >### > ## > ### > ### >

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Simon Budig
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Instead of drawing brush pixmaps onto the canvas at > equidistant spots along the line as the paintbrush does, the pencil > tool could use a real line-drawing algorithm (Bresenham). This would > imply that our brushes couldn't be used with the pencil tool

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Christophe Merlet
Sven Neumann wrote: > > One more thing to consider: Localisation in GIMP HEAD is considerably > broken since we have to switch all the po files to UTF-8. You can create > some nice crashes if you try to start GIMP from CVS HEAD with LC_ALL != C > since GTK+-2.0 doesn't like to be passed invalid U

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Christophe Merlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sven Neumann wrote: > > > > One more thing to consider: Localisation in GIMP HEAD is considerably > > broken since we have to switch all the po files to UTF-8. You can create > > some nice crashes if you try to start GIMP from CVS HEAD with LC

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It isn't up to you as the program maintainer to "merge" translations > from STABLE to HEAD or something like that. Provide hints how > translators might proceed, but please don't change contents of the > files. I have always asked people not to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Grzegorz Borowiak
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Instead of drawing brush pixmaps onto the canvas at > > equidistant spots along the line as the paintbrush does, the pencil > > tool could use a real line-drawing algorithm (Bresenham). This would > > imply that

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Simon Budig
Grzegorz Borowiak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Thank You guys. It seems drawing a good thin non-antialiased line is so > foar not implemented, I hope it will be. I could do it, but it would take > a long time for me to understand code and the whole conception of GIMP. By > now, I have the followin

[Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2001-08-29 Thread Vranyecz, Zoltan
Hi, How could I unsubscribe, from the GIMP mailing list? Regards, Zoltan Vranyecz ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Grzegorz Borowiak
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > Please note, that these problems are already solved in the Gimps Paintcore. > When you draw a line with the Paintbrush you will see that it is perfectly > antialiased and the "accumulating color" problem is solved too (you can > even disable this in the t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Grzegorz Borowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thank You guys. It seems drawing a good thin non-antialiased line is so > foar not implemented, I hope it will be. I could do it, but it would take > a long time for me to understand code and the whole conception of GIMP. right now pencil and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Branko Collin
On 29 Aug 2001, at 11:41, Sven Neumann wrote: > Grzegorz Borowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have a problem with drawing lines with pencil. Horizontal and > > vertical lines are OK, but slash lines are too thick. In zoom, they > > look like: > > > > ### > > ### > > ## > > ###

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Simon Budig
Grzegorz Borowiak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Simon Budig wrote: > > > Please note, that these problems are already solved in the Gimps Paintcore. > > When you draw a line with the Paintbrush you will see that it is perfectly > > antialiased and the "accumulating color" prob

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly Martin
On 29 Aug 2001 10:59:06 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >One more thing to consider: Localisation in GIMP HEAD is considerably >broken since we have to switch all the po files to UTF-8. You can >create some nice crashes if you try to start GIMP from CVS HEAD with >LC_ALL != C since

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Branko Collin
On 29 Aug 2001, at 13:55, Branko Collin wrote: [...] Think before you post, I cannot say that enough to myself. The reported 'problem' of course only happens if you use a brush that gets more transparent to its outside than in its center. It may not be solvable (and a solution might introduce

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > what benefit does this give? Converting at installation time is not > > possible since we can not require the user to have the appropriate > > tools installed. We could do it at release time, but this wouldn't > > fit into the 'make dist' schem

Re: [Gimp-developer] (no subject)

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Vranyecz, Zoltan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How could I unsubscribe, from the GIMP mailing list? > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer the answer is right there

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 29 Aug 2001 10:59:06 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >One more thing to consider: Localisation in GIMP HEAD is considerably > >broken since we have to switch all the po files to UTF-8. You can > >create some nice crashes if you

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly Martin
On 29 Aug 2001 14:44:49 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>Has this been reported as a bug in GTK? >Huh? It's not a bug, it's a feature. All strings in GTK+-2.0 are >UTF-8 encoded and the application has to assure that only valid UTF-8 >strings end up at the toolkit level. This is t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 29 Aug 2001 14:44:49 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >>Has this been reported as a bug in GTK? > > >Huh? It's not a bug, it's a feature. All strings in GTK+-2.0 are > >UTF-8 encoded and the application has to assure that only

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen J Baker
On 29 Aug 2001, Sven Neumann wrote: > > and IMO they should look like: > > > > ## > > ## > > # > > ## > >## > > # > > ## > > ## > > > > IMO what they should look like is: > > # > # ># > # > # > # ># > > essentally wha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Branko Collin
On 29 Aug 2001, at 11:22, Sven Neumann wrote: > I plan to merge translations from the stable gimp branch ("gimp-1-2") > to the HEAD branch very soon now and hereby ask all translators to > assure that the translations in the stable branch are up-to-date. If > you have committed changes to the HEA

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
> IMHO, the pencil tool should be left alone for consistancies' sake > and there should be a new tool to deal with the very special case > of drawing single-pixel-wide hard-edged lines. > > This hypothetical gadget could use Bresenham's algorithm or something > like that because it wouldn't *NEE

Re: [Gimp-developer] Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 29 Aug 2001, at 11:22, Sven Neumann wrote: > > > I plan to merge translations from the stable gimp branch ("gimp-1-2") > > to the HEAD branch very soon now and hereby ask all translators to > > assure that the translations in the stable branc

Re: [Gimp-developer] Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Rebecca J. Walter
On Wed, 2001-08-29 at 15:44, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > "Branko Collin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 29 Aug 2001, at 11:22, Sven Neumann wrote: > > > > > I plan to merge translations from the stable gimp branch ("gimp-1-2") > > > to the HEAD branch very soon now and hereby ask all tr

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't think release time is a good solution. First, we need this > > feature now and I don't want to require gettext from CVS. > > Sure, but a simple script calling iconv or recode will do it. w

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Karl Eichwalder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "at release time" :) Since we cannot assume msgsmt is available on the > target platform we're distributing .mo resp. .gmo files since ever. converting at release time is not an option. People tend to use the released tarball to work on the tran

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Christian Rose
Sven Neumann wrote: > > It isn't up to you as the program maintainer to "merge" translations > > from STABLE to HEAD or something like that. Provide hints how > > translators might proceed, but please don't change contents of the > > files. > > I have always asked people not to touch po files in

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have always asked people not to touch po files in CVS HEAD at all. > > Until we change this rule, the po files are in the maintainers > > responsibility. > > I do not agree. > Committing PO files to HEAD in any project is always risky busines

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Christian Rose
"R.I.P. Deaddog" wrote: > > I myself would probably convert the sv.po in Gimp HEAD to UTF-8, like in > > GTK+, if I was kindly asked to, and it was recommended, but I still > > don't want others to touch the PO file. > > I think I could live with having to run iconv back and forward every > > time

[Gimp-developer] Re: Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-08-29 at 1719.07 +0200): > If you make a new line tool, which would be awesome by itself, it would > also eliminate the repetitive stupid questions on gimp-user and #gimp > about "how do i draw a straight line" > AARGH! Xachbot is your friend, it has the URL of the tutoria

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Christian Rose
Sven Neumann wrote: > > > I have always asked people not to touch po files in CVS HEAD at all. > > > Until we change this rule, the po files are in the maintainers > > > responsibility. > > > > I do not agree. > > Committing PO files to HEAD in any project is always risky business > > (large frequ

[Gimp-developer] Translation teams and the GTP (was Re: Translating The GIMP)

2001-08-29 Thread Christian Rose
This is a rather separate thread, so I'm replying to it seperately. Sven Neumann wrote: > > > For the HEAD branch, we should try to find a responsible translation > > > maintainer for each language. The language maintainer should have CVS > > > commit access and is responsible for coordinating h

[Gimp-developer] Re: Translating The GIMP

2001-08-29 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, OK, here's what I came up with as a (preliminary?) solution. I've added a link to the GNOME Translation Project's homepage to README.i18n and will refer all people willing to contribute to GIMP's localisation to the GTP. I'll do the same with people sending me translations and I ask everyon

UTF8 in GTK+ 2.0 (was Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po)

2001-08-29 Thread Nick Lamb
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 07:58:52AM -0500, Kelly Martin wrote: > In my opinion, a library which crashes when fed inappropriate external > data is buggy by definition. Let's be more specific: Does the GTK+ UTF8 implementation meet the requirements for security purposes laid down in Unicode 3.0.1 a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly Martin
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:05:15 +1000, Stephen Robert Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >So it's the library's fault if I pass it a bad pointer and it causes >a SEGV? Yes. Kelly ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:38:45PM -0500, Kelly Martin wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:05:15 +1000, Stephen Robert Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >So it's the library's fault if I pass it a bad pointer and it causes > >a SEGV? > > Yes. > > Kelly I'd be interested to know how to avoid t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Larry Ewing
Ah so it is the libraries fault that it crashes when you pass it an unterminated string? Cool. --Larry On Wed, 2001-08-29 at 07:58, Kelly Martin wrote: > On 29 Aug 2001 14:44:49 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >>Has this been reported as a bug in GTK? > > >Huh? It's not a bu

Re: [Gimp-developer] Thin lines using pencil

2001-08-29 Thread Jay Cox
Branko Collin wrote: > > If I draw several connected lines with the paint brush, the joints > aren't always perfect. For instance, instead of: > > *** > *** > ** > > * > > you get: > > *** > *** > *

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Lourens Veen
Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > > > Yes, this is a way the application can avoid the problem; it's not a way > the library can. > > My point was that it's impossible with modern OS's to avoid the possibility > of the library crashing. Ah, we agree then, that was the point I was trying to make a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly Martin
On 29 Aug 2001 16:59:18 -0500, Larry Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Ah so it is the libraries fault that it crashes when you pass it an >unterminated string? Yes, in this case bad design on the part of the library designer for allowing such behavior. I realize that the use of null-terminate

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 05:14:36PM -0500, Kelly Martin wrote: > On 29 Aug 2001 16:59:18 -0500, Larry Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >Ah so it is the libraries fault that it crashes when you pass it an > >unterminated string? > > Yes, in this case bad design on the part of the library desi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Kelly Martin
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:42:05 +1000, Stephen Robert Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'd be interested to know how to avoid that. I'm pretty sure I can >construct a scenario (with multiple threads and memory mapping, for >example) where it's impossible to tell until you get the SEGV. For >instan

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 11:22:26PM -0500, Kelly Martin wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:42:05 +1000, Stephen Robert Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >I'd be interested to know how to avoid that. I'm pretty sure I can > >construct a scenario (with multiple threads and memory mapping, for > >

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Lourens Veen
Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > > I'd be interested to know how to avoid that. I'm pretty sure I can > construct a scenario (with multiple threads and memory mapping, > for example) where it's impossible to tell until you get the SEGV. For > instance, I memory map a file, pass a pointer into the ma

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: patch for gimp/po/fr.po

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 07:34:57AM +0200, Lourens Veen wrote: > Stephen Robert Norris wrote: > > > > I'd be interested to know how to avoid that. I'm pretty sure I can > > construct a scenario (with multiple threads and memory mapping, > > for example) where it's impossible to tell until you get t