Dear Lyx users,
On 2017-08-17, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:41:17 +0200 Roberto wrote:
>> On 04/08/2017 17:35, Cris Fuhrman wrote:
> Are you ever going to let this thread die?
I am not sure whether it is better to let this thread die or to bring it to
a good end.
* a lot of blam
On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:41:17 +0200
Roberto wrote:
> On 04/08/2017 17:35, Cris Fuhrman wrote:
> > I support abstracting file details because it makes using LyX
> > easier, but at the same time I would not like to give up control
> > over the modular aspects, such as the custom converters, which I
On 04/08/2017 17:35, Cris Fuhrman wrote:
I support abstracting file details because it makes using LyX easier,
but at the same time I would not like to give up control over the
modular aspects, such as the custom converters, which I think is a big
strength in LyX design. For example, being able
And there you have it, all scripts (and workflows) broken. Every single
one.
el
On 02/08/2017 22:45, Roberto wrote:
> On 02/08/2017 01:20, Steve Litt wrote:
>> breaking everybody's scripts and work flow
[...]
> at worse it requires a one line change in your script to say where the
> .lyx file act
Yada, yada, yada, whatever...
el
On 02/08/2017 22:42, Roberto wrote:
> On 02/08/2017 13:10, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> one paragraph
> Ricardo has expressed a great truth in just one sentence:
> "it seems that on this thread is slowly surfacing one of the worst
> sins of open source communiti
On 02/08/2017 01:20, Steve Litt wrote:
breaking everybody's scripts and work flow
are you saying that a script that now works on a .lyx file would not
work on a LyXar that contains (as a folder) a .lyx file? why would that
be the case? at worse it requires a one line change in your script to
s
On 02/08/2017 13:10, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
one paragraph
Ricardo has expressed a great truth in just one sentence:
"it seems that on this thread is slowly surfacing one of the worst
sins of open source communities: the attitude of "it's easy for me, then
it must be easy for you too, you l
On 01/08/2017 21:21, Roberto wrote:
> On 01/08/2017 18:13, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>
>> Talking about computer-unsavvy:
[...]
> Your point being? that one example sets a rule?
The point being that this was quite computer-unsavvy.
>> You can not ask from collaborators to set up a GIT repo, but,
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 21:56:33 +0200
Roberto wrote:
> On 31/07/2017 19:10, Steve Litt wrote:
> > The ability to directly edit graphics within a LyX file would be a
> > nice *option*:
> Hi Steve, I hope I am quoting you correctly by only reporting the
> sentence I want to comment about.
>
> As fa
On 01/08/2017 18:13, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
Talking about computer-unsavvy:
The wife of a friend of mine demands that he install MSWord for her
because she was using it in a course. He installs NeoOffice. She then
gives him a serious hard time demanding he install MSWord or else
because she
On 31/07/2017 19:10, Steve Litt wrote:
The ability to directly edit graphics within a LyX file would be a nice
*option*:
Hi Steve, I hope I am quoting you correctly by only reporting the
sentence I want to comment about.
As far as I can understand the feature I am talking about does not
requi
On 31/07/2017 14:31, Helge Hafting wrote:
Den 27. juli 2017 19:48, skrev Richard Heck:
On 07/27/2017 11:52 AM, Roberto wrote:
Hi Richard, thanks for bringing in your experience.
If the tar.gz was something you can "mount" like a read-write DMG it
would make sense to say that the archive does
Ricardo
I don't demand from my secretaries that they write scripts to find the
reports all cases of a particular operation (myomectomies) which I have
performed in a particular manner (20nce 2004)
#!/bin/bash
cat > t.tex <> t.tex
cat >>t.tex < It may also mean "people without spare time trying to
Roberto wrote:
> On 30/07/2017 19:13, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> If you use dropbox, can't you just put ALL the files there and edit
>> from there?
>
> The feature I am talking about does the work for you. When the machine
> works for you, you win. The machine is your friend.
To wrap it up littl
On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 09:52:55 +0200
Roberto wrote:
> Hi Scott, thanks for your suggestion.
> The archive does not really do the job because you cannot edit it
> directly. My goal is to get something like a MS Word document that
> contains all the pictures you add in it and you can send it as a
On 07/31/2017 08:31 AM, Helge Hafting wrote:
>
>
> Den 27. juli 2017 19:48, skrev Richard Heck:
>> On 07/27/2017 11:52 AM, Roberto wrote:
>>> Hi Richard, thanks for bringing in your experience.
>>>
>>> If the tar.gz was something you can "mount" like a read-write DMG it
>>> would make sense to say
Den 27. juli 2017 19:48, skrev Richard Heck:
On 07/27/2017 11:52 AM, Roberto wrote:
Hi Richard, thanks for bringing in your experience.
If the tar.gz was something you can "mount" like a read-write DMG it
would make sense to say that the archive does what I have in mind. As
far as I know one
On 29/07/2017 13:39, Annaert Jan wrote:
Despite my pleas, some of my colleagues have already shied away from
using LyX because of these unnecessary hurdles,
In 13 years of using LyX and after tens of scientific papers written I
have never managed to convince collaborators to use LyX, why? beca
On 30/07/2017 19:13, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
If you use dropbox, can't you just put ALL the files there and edit
from there?
The feature I am talking about does the work for you. When the machine
works for you, you win. The machine is your friend.
Look at the following scenario. Alice and B
Oh my god, finally somebody with a Keyboard and a Heart showed up!
I have to say that is often the case that I find this kind of resistance
in open-source developers communities - sometimes I wonder what is
really "open" there!?
It may also mean "people without spare time trying to move o
2017-07-30 19:13 GMT+02:00 Dr Eberhard Lisse :
> Roberto,
>
> If you use dropbox, can't you just put ALL the files there and edit
> from there?
>
> I am using a Mac and I can open and save files from LyX on the dropbox
> directories, including generating the PDF, so I am sure something
> similar w
Roberto,
If you use dropbox, can't you just put ALL the files there and edit
from there?
I am using a Mac and I can open and save files from LyX on the dropbox
directories, including generating the PDF, so I am sure something
similar will work on Windoze.
I would them use Version Control and mak
On 29/07/2017 13:30, Charlie wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:55:35 +0200
Roberto wrote:
Before answering think about your grandma having to do it ...
Would she be happy to use msword?
Charlie
She does not use it, because it so unstable, which hinders her learning.
Instead, when she has a go
useful to
hide it in a lyxx-file too?
Best regards,
Jan
Jan Annaert
From: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" on behalf of Roberto
Date: Saturday 29 July 2017 12:44
To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org"
Subject: Re: all-inclusive file format
The current lyx format then does just righ
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 12:55:35 +0200
Roberto wrote:
> Before answering think about your grandma having to do it ...
Would she be happy to use msword?
Charlie
--
Registered Linux User:- 329524
***
I had three chairs in my house;
Make is your friend.
I collaborate on dropbox with make-unfriendly computer-unsavvy people,
make is not an option - and this is not such an uncommon case I guess!
Instead, an _editable_ file format that __guarantees__ you have all is
needed to compile the file is a haven for data integrity
The current lyx format then does just right for you. That does not mean
that does right for everybody who uses the software. I hate MS Word too,
but I also do not like having folders plenty of pictures that I have to
carefully select when I pass the file to someone or share it in dropbox
and al
Cool.
el
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> On 29 Jul 2017, at 07:00, Richard Heck wrote:
>
>> On 07/28/2017 07:47 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> As an option, like "Compressed"?
>
> Yes, precisely.
>
> Richard
>
>
>>> On 2017-07-27 18:48 , Richard Heck wrote:
>>> [...
>>> I'll think
On 07/28/2017 07:47 PM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> As an option, like "Compressed"?
Yes, precisely.
Richard
> On 2017-07-27 18:48 , Richard Heck wrote:
> [...
>> I'll think more about this. It's too late for 2.3, but it's something
>> that could go into 2.4.
>>
>> Richard
> [...]
As an option, like "Compressed"?
el
On 2017-07-27 18:48 , Richard Heck wrote:
[...
> I'll think more about this. It's too late for 2.3, but it's something
> that could go into 2.4.
>
> Richard
[...]
Just for the record,
DOCX files are ZIP files in disguise.
But I really don't understand the issue. When done editing make a
tar.gz again and be done.
Make is your friend.
If you want to collaborate it's probably even better to do this with
GIT, which LyX supports, if I am not mistaken.
el
This is precisely what I was saying. Rather than have everything hidden in a
file as MS Word does, simply put the needed graphics files in a folder shared
with you lyx document. No special file formats are needed. I agree, I hate MS
Word.
On Jul 28, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Joe mailto:jtw...@gmx.co
On 07/28/2017 12:02 PM, Joe wrote:
Please please please don't make LyX more like Word. Please!
Amen.
--
David L. Johnson
Department of Mathematics
Lehigh University
It would appear that on Jul 28, Hobbs,Tom did say:
> Goodness gracious. Just put everything in a folder and send that, which is
> precisely what MS Word does without you knowing it.
It would appear that on Jul 28, Roberto did say:
> On 28/07/2017 04:07, Hobbs,Tom wrote:
> > which is precisely
On 28/07/2017 04:07, Hobbs,Tom wrote:
which is precisely what MS Word does without you knowing it.
and that is precisely what I do not want to know about and I am bothered
by :)
Goodness gracious. Just put everything in a folder and send that, which is
precisely what MS Word does without you knowing it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 27, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>
> Roberto,
>
> I don't think that that can ever work, given LaTeX, other than major
> d
On 07/27/2017 11:52 AM, Roberto wrote:
> Hi Richard, thanks for bringing in your experience.
>
> If the tar.gz was something you can "mount" like a read-write DMG it
> would make sense to say that the archive does what I have in mind. As
> far as I know one can open DMG files and edit them and clos
Hi Richard, thanks for bringing in your experience.
If the tar.gz was something you can "mount" like a read-write DMG it
would make sense to say that the archive does what I have in mind. As
far as I know one can open DMG files and edit them and close them,
effectively saving the content. The
On 07/27/2017 09:07 AM, Roberto wrote:
> Let me explain better. The reason for asking for a feature like that is
> not that I cannot clic one more time to unpack a tar.gz :)
>
> The tar.gz is an export, not a "Save", that is the difference. Save
> means that you can edit it and keep saving every no
Let me explain better. The reason for asking for a feature like that is
not that I cannot clic one more time to unpack a tar.gz :)
The tar.gz is an export, not a "Save", that is the difference. Save
means that you can edit it and keep saving every now and then.
Furthermore the two things are d
Why not? You can open your lyx file after extracting the arch, and it
contains all you need such as the figures, bib file and style file, work
on it, arch it again and send it as one file to your colleague
Wolfgang
Am 27.07.2017 um 09:52 schrieb Roberto:
Hi Scott, thanks for your suggestion.
Roberto,
I don't think that that can ever work, given LaTeX, other than major
design change to LyX.
The one additional step of clicking on the archive after saving the
attachment isn't that inconvenient, in my view.
el
On 27/07/2017 08:52, Roberto wrote:
> Hi Scott, thanks for your suggestion.
Hi Scott, thanks for your suggestion.
The archive does not really do the job because you cannot edit it
directly. My goal is to get something like a MS Word document that
contains all the pictures you add in it and you can send it as a single
file.
Cheers,
Roberto
On 26/07/2017 20:15, Scot
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 07:57:27PM +0200, roberto franceschini wrote:
> Hello,
> Is there a format of LyX document that contains the text as well as the
> figures it uses? Something like that can be sent by email and contain all
> that is needed to see the document, without the need to send along
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