[AI] Blind Cricket Black Game

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Blind cricket black game very interesting & specially design for blind
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time and at the same time want their eyes to get some rest.

When you will play this game ball sound increase as it reach near Batsman,
all you need to do is tap at maximum sound to hit the ball. Depending on
your timing, you will make runs.

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Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[mukesh jain]

i am glad that tips given here helped you solve your problem.


On 8/18/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> Of course! it only supports office 2019 &  above that's why, i have
> installed Office2019 Retail in my pc & its working fine now.
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>
>
> hello,
> since i am user of office 365, could not avarify the compatibility of
> narrator with older version. but today, i happen to check the same
> with one machine running office 2010 and i noticed that narrator does
> not support. so to make use of narrator, you should have latest MS
> office installed, at list office 2016 and later.
> thanks,
> Mukesh
>
> On 8/17/22, Anil Kumar  wrote:
>> Please visit below given links for understanding narrator:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-b-narrator-keyboard-commands-and-touch-gestures-8bdab3f4-b3e9-4554-7f28-8b15bd37410a#WindowsVersion=Windows_11
>>
>> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows%2Fcomplete-guide-to-narrator-e4397a0d-ef4f-b386-d8ae-c172f109bdb1%23WindowsVersion%3DWindows_11=05%7C01%7Cruna.patel%40microsoft.com%7Ca018da19a6534dca870908da7a85edab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637957012889919590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cio32kGi1K4w4gOKtsrJjKPfFaVy1MMTuPT6vKnAI2Q%3D=0
>>
>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-365-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-us=en-us=us
>>
>>
>> On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>>> May be this is the only reason with me because i am still using ms
>>> office
>>> 2010
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Minar Singh" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>> I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
>>> support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.
>>>
>>> On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
 Hi,
 1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
 I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with
 office
 365.
 Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the
 excel.
 To
 switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it
 works.



 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
 On
 Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
 Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

 oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in
 excel.
 I
 already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so.
 please!

 guide me step-by-step.
 Thank you very much
 - Original Message -
 From: "mukesh jain" 
 To: 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


 hello,
 first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you
 open
 the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you
 the
 brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings
 etc.
 its
 just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable
 you
 to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
 appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
 narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
 reader.

 open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
 standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings
 to
 be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to
 edit
 the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off
 which
 can
 be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
 insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
 turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application
 which
 enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.

 when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried
 reading
 or
 editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
 understand your dificulty.

 thanks,
 Mukesh

 On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
> excel
>
> app with windows 10? please!
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator 

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[hyder.sahyog]

HI Sir,

 

Houw ever you’re of NGO

 

Whi not Able to Take Initiate

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of George Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 1:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

No! It is time schools and the Education departments take on the role. The 
system has to buy into the belief that blind and visually impaired persons have 
to learn STEM and they have to develop pedagogies to do so.

 

NGOs need to advocate for it.

 

Further it is time schools and NGOs who run schools hear and understand our PMs 
vision of Digital India and prepare to equip the blind youth to fit into the 
Digital World. Tools are available. It is also necessary for Govt. to invest in 
quality and meaningful education for the rural blind youth instead of touting a 
compromised SSA programme just to show numbers.

 

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

For this reason, some interested NGOS and volunteer groups must take initiative 
to teach maths and reasoning to candidates taking up exams.

 

 

DR. PAUL MUDDHA

DIVISIONAL MANAGER

Marketing & Public Relations Wing

Head Office Annex ground Floor

2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009

PH NO :080 22207594

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Satguru Rathi
Sent: 17 August 2022 11:08
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

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Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill 
recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects from a blind 
candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never even told in 
school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such questions? 
Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching, will he be able to 
understand all those concepts at par with his sighted pears? We must first 
focus on strengthning our education system.

 

Best.

On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?
 
On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR    
wrote:

Hi friends,
Kethan said rightly.
Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
written format processes well.
 
Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he 

Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[B. R. Nautial]

Of course! it only supports office 2019 &  above that's why, i have 
installed Office2019 Retail in my pc & its working fine now.
- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
since i am user of office 365, could not avarify the compatibility of
narrator with older version. but today, i happen to check the same
with one machine running office 2010 and i noticed that narrator does
not support. so to make use of narrator, you should have latest MS
office installed, at list office 2016 and later.
thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/17/22, Anil Kumar  wrote:

Please visit below given links for understanding narrator:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-b-narrator-keyboard-commands-and-touch-gestures-8bdab3f4-b3e9-4554-7f28-8b15bd37410a#WindowsVersion=Windows_11

https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows%2Fcomplete-guide-to-narrator-e4397a0d-ef4f-b386-d8ae-c172f109bdb1%23WindowsVersion%3DWindows_11=05%7C01%7Cruna.patel%40microsoft.com%7Ca018da19a6534dca870908da7a85edab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637957012889919590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cio32kGi1K4w4gOKtsrJjKPfFaVy1MMTuPT6vKnAI2Q%3D=0

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-365-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-us=en-us=us


On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

May be this is the only reason with me because i am still using ms office
2010
- Original Message -
From: "Minar Singh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.

On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi,
1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office
365.
Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel.
To
switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it
works.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel.
I
already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so.
please!

guide me step-by-step.
Thank you very much
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you
open
the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you
the
brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc.
its
just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable
you
to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
reader.

open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings
to
be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to
edit
the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which
can
be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application
which
enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.

when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading
or
editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
understand your dificulty.

thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:

wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
excel

app with windows 10? please!
- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


hello,
from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.

so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping 

Re: [AI] Airtel thanks app Android review & response

[Vaibhav Saraf]

This looks like an auto-response, or general copy paste stuff.

Have you tried other apps for paying bills, like Amazon? I did not
understand, but do you mean to say that the Airtel thanks app is the only
medium to pay Black plan bills? In that case you should write to the nodal
officer rather than the developer as it is the general customer response
team and might not understand or even prioritize things, or to both.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 at 14:24, Bharat  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Recently i wrote a review of the Airtel thanks app on playstore &
> almost immediately i heard from the developer. Given below is my
> review along with the developers response.
>
> Interested may write to the developer as per the enclosed details:
>
> Airtel Thanks – Recharge & UPI
> Your rating:★
>  I am very disappointed with the app in its current format. While it
> was not very accessible using it with a screen reader even earlier,
> but the latest version of the app is absolutely impossible to be used
> with the mobile screen reader. as a result, I don't even know how I am
> supposed to make a payment of my Black Bill since there are not many
> options or even third party sites through which one can make the
> payment. Request you to focus urgently on the Android side of the app
> .
> Developer response:
> Hi, we work to deliver stable connectivity experience for our
> customers. Please drop us an email at socialc...@airtel.com along with
> your registered number. We’ll get your issue checked on priority.
> Thank you, Rajat -Team Airtel Thanks
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> bharat.
>
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[AI] Airtel thanks app Android review & response

[Bharat]

Hi,

Recently i wrote a review of the Airtel thanks app on playstore &
almost immediately i heard from the developer. Given below is my
review along with the developers response.

Interested may write to the developer as per the enclosed details:

Airtel Thanks – Recharge & UPI
Your rating:★
 I am very disappointed with the app in its current format. While it
was not very accessible using it with a screen reader even earlier,
but the latest version of the app is absolutely impossible to be used
with the mobile screen reader. as a result, I don't even know how I am
supposed to make a payment of my Black Bill since there are not many
options or even third party sites through which one can make the
payment. Request you to focus urgently on the Android side of the app
.
Developer response:
Hi, we work to deliver stable connectivity experience for our
customers. Please drop us an email at socialc...@airtel.com along with
your registered number. We’ll get your issue checked on priority.
Thank you, Rajat -Team Airtel Thanks



Thank you,

bharat.

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[AI] Short term online training on advance topic of Microsoft Excel

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Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[mukesh jain]

hello,
since i am user of office 365, could not avarify the compatibility of
narrator with older version. but today, i happen to check the same
with one machine running office 2010 and i noticed that narrator does
not support. so to make use of narrator, you should have latest MS
office installed, at list office 2016 and later.
thanks,
Mukesh

On 8/17/22, Anil Kumar  wrote:
> Please visit below given links for understanding narrator:
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-b-narrator-keyboard-commands-and-touch-gestures-8bdab3f4-b3e9-4554-7f28-8b15bd37410a#WindowsVersion=Windows_11
>
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows%2Fcomplete-guide-to-narrator-e4397a0d-ef4f-b386-d8ae-c172f109bdb1%23WindowsVersion%3DWindows_11=05%7C01%7Cruna.patel%40microsoft.com%7Ca018da19a6534dca870908da7a85edab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637957012889919590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cio32kGi1K4w4gOKtsrJjKPfFaVy1MMTuPT6vKnAI2Q%3D=0
>
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-365-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-us=en-us=us
>
>
> On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> May be this is the only reason with me because i am still using ms office
>> 2010
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Minar Singh" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>
>>
>> I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
>> support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.
>>
>> On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
>>> I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office
>>> 365.
>>> Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel.
>>> To
>>> switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it
>>> works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>>> Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
>>> Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>> oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel.
>>> I
>>> already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so.
>>> please!
>>>
>>> guide me step-by-step.
>>> Thank you very much
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>> hello,
>>> first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you
>>> open
>>> the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you
>>> the
>>> brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc.
>>> its
>>> just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable
>>> you
>>> to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
>>> appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
>>> narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
>>> reader.
>>>
>>> open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
>>> standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings
>>> to
>>> be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to
>>> edit
>>> the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which
>>> can
>>> be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
>>> insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
>>> turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application
>>> which
>>> enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.
>>>
>>> when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading
>>> or
>>> editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
>>> understand your dificulty.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Mukesh
>>>
>>> On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
 wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
 excel

 app with windows 10? please!
 - Original Message -
 From: "mukesh jain" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1


 hello,
 from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
 alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
 and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
 you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
 using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
 voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
 tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications

[AI] any users of quickbooks

[nidhigoyal219]

Hi all,

Hope you are well.

I am reaching out to check if we have users of QuickBooks (the accounting
software) on this list? Could you please share user experiences particularly
around accessibility and ease. 

Will be grateful for your responses.

Warmest,

Nidhi Ashok Goyal

She/ Hers

Founder and Executive Director: Rising Flame

Core group on PWD: NHRC India

Diversity and Inclusion task force: FICCI

Advisory board: Voice, Dutch Ministry

Board of Director: AWID

Former global advisor: UN Women

 

 

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Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Minar Singh]

Whatever is the reason may be, Glorifying success accomplished through
malpractice by many VI individuals and organisations is going to end
soon. I came from poor family. My parents couldn’t afford to feed me 2
times meal. I was enrolled into Marathi medium school. Hard work has
no excuse and short cut. I believe authorities will take note of the
current trend and will take disciplinary  action against culprits.

On 8/17/22, anirudh rao  wrote:
> in my view, the schools adopting the English as their medium and
> teaching the science and the mathematics in their curriculum is the
> way forward.
> inclusive education should be pushed but, the question is that, are
> the schools that teach the normals equipped to handle the visually
> challenged?
>
> On 8/17/22, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well, computers are the part of the whole system, but specific subjects
>> have their own merrits. First, one can not learn computer without having
>> basic English language skills. Despite the availability of the Hindi
>> softwares, I see no specific push by the government to make it more
>> usable. Even if one argues to learn it the Hindi way, most of the time
>> he would find being end up useing "English software" for various tasks.
>> We don't yet have a very reliable Hindi OCR available despite of various
>> efforts. Projects come and go with much hipe from the government but end
>> up dead most of the time. Now, how many English medium schools are there
>> in India for VI? Perhaps 1 or 2. Are they sufficient? No! How could we
>> few fortunates expect from everyone in the VI community to come on board
>> Access India and join this debate? George sir is right! Time has come
>> for the government and the NGOs to make the required changes in the
>> education system decisively and swiftly.
>>
>>
>> Satguru.
>>
>> On 8/17/2022 2:39 PM, Amena Kanchwala wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making
>>> the examination software accessible with the screen readers, and
>>> enabling visually impaired candidates appear in their exams
>>> independently. If this happens, then the people who don’t know how to
>>> operate computers will start learning computers in order to get the
>>> job. People will start learning maths and reasoning. Training centres
>>> will also start teaching the same. There will be competition between
>>> visually impaired candidates only. Currently, no one wants to give
>>> their efforts, because they think that all their efforts will go in
>>> vain if they have to compete with sighted scribes. People like us have
>>> our own constraints. Even the well prepared VI Candidate cannot
>>> compete with the well prepared sighted scribe. I have seen the SBI
>>> exam cut off for VI candidates going higher than that of sighted
>>> candidates. This is just because of highly paid scribes. And because
>>> of this, even the genuine VI candidates stop preparing, and
>>> endup entering into the vicious cycle of scribe business.
>>>
>>> And yes, I feel that it is difficult to do strict invigilation at all
>>> the places in the similar manner. Candidates and scribes can use the
>>> code words to tell the correct answer. Also, at some places
>>> invigilators can be polite. It depends on the person.
>>>
>>> Giving the exams independently will give them confidence. They will
>>> start giving the effort for the same, and can make themselves capable
>>> for the applied position. Few months ago, I gave a US based online
>>> exam independently, and trust me I feel good after clearing the same.
>>>
>>> All of us  just need to change our mindset.
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>
>>> Ame
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:16 PM Tanmay Srivastava
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Extremely sorry for such a long mail.
>>>
>>> Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but,
>>> satguru ji's mail compelled me to talk about it.
>>>
>>> There are a few things which needs to be addressed.
>>>
>>> Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with
>>> disabilities?
>>>
>>> In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of
>>> persons with disabilities?
>>>
>>> It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many
>>> departments then they set work on a priority basis.
>>>
>>> Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education
>>> ministry takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to
>>> enhance the entire special education system.
>>>
>>> Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same
>>> thing goes with computer as well.
>>>
>>> I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an
>>> undertaking to pursue computer as an additional subject.
>>>
>>> According to which, school will not be liable in case of any
>>> mishappening.
>>>
>>> School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[anirudh rao]

in my view, the schools adopting the English as their medium and
teaching the science and the mathematics in their curriculum is the
way forward.
inclusive education should be pushed but, the question is that, are
the schools that teach the normals equipped to handle the visually
challenged?

On 8/17/22, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well, computers are the part of the whole system, but specific subjects
> have their own merrits. First, one can not learn computer without having
> basic English language skills. Despite the availability of the Hindi
> softwares, I see no specific push by the government to make it more
> usable. Even if one argues to learn it the Hindi way, most of the time
> he would find being end up useing "English software" for various tasks.
> We don't yet have a very reliable Hindi OCR available despite of various
> efforts. Projects come and go with much hipe from the government but end
> up dead most of the time. Now, how many English medium schools are there
> in India for VI? Perhaps 1 or 2. Are they sufficient? No! How could we
> few fortunates expect from everyone in the VI community to come on board
> Access India and join this debate? George sir is right! Time has come
> for the government and the NGOs to make the required changes in the
> education system decisively and swiftly.
>
>
> Satguru.
>
> On 8/17/2022 2:39 PM, Amena Kanchwala wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making
>> the examination software accessible with the screen readers, and
>> enabling visually impaired candidates appear in their exams
>> independently. If this happens, then the people who don’t know how to
>> operate computers will start learning computers in order to get the
>> job. People will start learning maths and reasoning. Training centres
>> will also start teaching the same. There will be competition between
>> visually impaired candidates only. Currently, no one wants to give
>> their efforts, because they think that all their efforts will go in
>> vain if they have to compete with sighted scribes. People like us have
>> our own constraints. Even the well prepared VI Candidate cannot
>> compete with the well prepared sighted scribe. I have seen the SBI
>> exam cut off for VI candidates going higher than that of sighted
>> candidates. This is just because of highly paid scribes. And because
>> of this, even the genuine VI candidates stop preparing, and
>> endup entering into the vicious cycle of scribe business.
>>
>> And yes, I feel that it is difficult to do strict invigilation at all
>> the places in the similar manner. Candidates and scribes can use the
>> code words to tell the correct answer. Also, at some places
>> invigilators can be polite. It depends on the person.
>>
>> Giving the exams independently will give them confidence. They will
>> start giving the effort for the same, and can make themselves capable
>> for the applied position. Few months ago, I gave a US based online
>> exam independently, and trust me I feel good after clearing the same.
>>
>> All of us  just need to change our mindset.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Ame
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:16 PM Tanmay Srivastava
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Extremely sorry for such a long mail.
>>
>> Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but,
>> satguru ji's mail compelled me to talk about it.
>>
>> There are a few things which needs to be addressed.
>>
>> Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with
>> disabilities?
>>
>> In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of
>> persons with disabilities?
>>
>> It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many
>> departments then they set work on a priority basis.
>>
>> Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education
>> ministry takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to
>> enhance the entire special education system.
>>
>> Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same
>> thing goes with computer as well.
>>
>> I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an
>> undertaking to pursue computer as an additional subject.
>>
>> According to which, school will not be liable in case of any
>> mishappening.
>>
>> School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, they
>> left us with a computer instructer who did not have any experience
>> to teach computer in 11th and 12th standard to a totally blind
>> person, however it is important to mention that, she tried her
>> best to get the result.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Aug, 2022, 11:08 am Satguru Rathi,
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th
>> only and untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto
>> 10th. How one expects from a blind candidate who has studied
>> 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Satguru Rathi]

Hi,

Well, computers are the part of the whole system, but specific subjects 
have their own merrits. First, one can not learn computer without having 
basic English language skills. Despite the availability of the Hindi 
softwares, I see no specific push by the government to make it more 
usable. Even if one argues to learn it the Hindi way, most of the time 
he would find being end up useing "English software" for various tasks. 
We don't yet have a very reliable Hindi OCR available despite of various 
efforts. Projects come and go with much hipe from the government but end 
up dead most of the time. Now, how many English medium schools are there 
in India for VI? Perhaps 1 or 2. Are they sufficient? No! How could we 
few fortunates expect from everyone in the VI community to come on board 
Access India and join this debate? George sir is right! Time has come 
for the government and the NGOs to make the required changes in the 
education system decisively and swiftly.



Satguru.

On 8/17/2022 2:39 PM, Amena Kanchwala wrote:


Hi all,

It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making 
the examination software accessible with the screen readers, and 
enabling visually impaired candidates appear in their exams 
independently. If this happens, then the people who don’t know how to 
operate computers will start learning computers in order to get the 
job. People will start learning maths and reasoning. Training centres 
will also start teaching the same. There will be competition between 
visually impaired candidates only. Currently, no one wants to give 
their efforts, because they think that all their efforts will go in 
vain if they have to compete with sighted scribes. People like us have 
our own constraints. Even the well prepared VI Candidate cannot 
compete with the well prepared sighted scribe. I have seen the SBI 
exam cut off for VI candidates going higher than that of sighted 
candidates. This is just because of highly paid scribes. And because 
of this, even the genuine VI candidates stop preparing, and 
endup entering into the vicious cycle of scribe business.


And yes, I feel that it is difficult to do strict invigilation at all 
the places in the similar manner. Candidates and scribes can use the 
code words to tell the correct answer. Also, at some places 
invigilators can be polite. It depends on the person.


Giving the exams independently will give them confidence. They will 
start giving the effort for the same, and can make themselves capable 
for the applied position. Few months ago, I gave a US based online 
exam independently, and trust me I feel good after clearing the same.


All of us  just need to change our mindset.

Thanks and regards,

Ame


On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:16 PM Tanmay Srivastava 
 wrote:


Hi all,

Extremely sorry for such a long mail.

Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but,
satguru ji's mail compelled me to talk about it.

There are a few things which needs to be addressed.

Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with
disabilities?

In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of
persons with disabilities?

It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many
departments then they set work on a priority basis.

Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education
ministry takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to
enhance the entire special education system.

Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same
thing goes with computer as well.

I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an
undertaking to pursue computer as an additional subject.

According to which, school will not be liable in case of any
mishappening.

School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, they
left us with a computer instructer who did not have any experience
to teach computer in 11th and 12th standard to a totally blind
person, however it is important to mention that, she tried her
best to get the result.


On Wed, 17 Aug, 2022, 11:08 am Satguru Rathi,
 wrote:

Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th
only and untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto
10th. How one expects from a blind candidate who has studied
Maths till class 8th and was never even told in school about
something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such
questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some
coatching, will he be able to understand all those concepts at
par with his sighted pears? We must first focus on
strengthning our education system.


Best.

On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
are just been accommodated for 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Amena Kanchwala]

Hi all,

It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making the
examination software accessible with the screen readers, and enabling
visually impaired candidates appear in their exams independently. If this
happens, then the people who don’t know how to operate computers will start
learning computers in order to get the job. People will start learning
maths and reasoning. Training centres will also start teaching the same.
There will be competition between visually impaired candidates only.
Currently, no one wants to give their efforts, because they think that all
their efforts will go in vain if they have to compete with sighted scribes.
People like us have our own constraints. Even the well prepared VI
Candidate cannot compete with the well prepared sighted scribe. I have seen
the SBI exam cut off for VI candidates going higher than that of sighted
candidates. This is just because of highly paid scribes. And because of
this, even the genuine VI candidates stop preparing, and endup entering
into the vicious cycle of scribe business.

And yes, I feel that it is difficult to do strict invigilation at all the
places in the similar manner. Candidates and scribes can use the code words
to tell the correct answer. Also, at some places invigilators can be
polite. It depends on the person.

Giving the exams independently will give them confidence. They will start
giving the effort for the same, and can make themselves capable for the
applied position. Few months ago, I gave a US based online exam
independently, and trust me I feel good after clearing the same.

All of us  just need to change our mindset.



Thanks and regards,

Ame

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:16 PM Tanmay Srivastava 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Extremely sorry for such a long mail.
>
> Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but, satguru
> ji's mail compelled me to talk about it.
>
> There are a few things which needs to be addressed.
>
> Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with disabilities?
>
> In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of persons
> with disabilities?
>
> It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many departments
> then they set work on a priority basis.
>
> Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education
> ministry takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to enhance
> the entire special education system.
>
> Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same thing
> goes with computer as well.
>
> I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an undertaking
> to pursue computer as an additional subject.
>
> According to which, school will not be liable in case of any mishappening.
>
> School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, they left us
> with a computer instructer who did not have any experience to teach
> computer in 11th and 12th standard to a totally blind person, however it is
> important to mention that, she tried her best to get the result.
>
> On Wed, 17 Aug, 2022, 11:08 am Satguru Rathi, 
> wrote:
>
>> Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and
>> untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects
>> from a blind candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never
>> even told in school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve
>> such questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching,
>> will he be able to understand all those concepts at par with his sighted
>> pears? We must first focus on strengthning our education system.
>>
>>
>> Best.
>> On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:
>>
>> Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
>> are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
>> people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
>> graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
>> fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
>> schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
>> include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
>> secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
>> have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
>> support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
>> of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
>> system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
>> organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
>> testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
>> reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
>> English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
>> Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
>> employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
>> This is some where a 

Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1

[Anil Kumar]

Please visit below given links for understanding narrator:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/appendix-b-narrator-keyboard-commands-and-touch-gestures-8bdab3f4-b3e9-4554-7f28-8b15bd37410a#WindowsVersion=Windows_11

https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fwindows%2Fcomplete-guide-to-narrator-e4397a0d-ef4f-b386-d8ae-c172f109bdb1%23WindowsVersion%3DWindows_11=05%7C01%7Cruna.patel%40microsoft.com%7Ca018da19a6534dca870908da7a85edab%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637957012889919590%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=Cio32kGi1K4w4gOKtsrJjKPfFaVy1MMTuPT6vKnAI2Q%3D=0

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/use-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-365-apps-4aba5a56-f80c-4a6b-a584-d0f415471617?ui=en-us=en-us=us


On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> May be this is the only reason with me because i am still using ms office
> 2010
> - Original Message -
> From: "Minar Singh" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>
>
> I think He is using much older version of MS office. Narrator won't
> support 2013 and 2016 versions of MS office.
>
> On 8/16/22, techsavi.shan...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 1st of all, don’t know what version of office you are using.
>> I am able to read the contents from the excel using narrator with office
>> 365.
>> Just see that the scan mode is turned off while navigating on the excel.
>> To
>> switch between the scan mode, press capslock plus space and see it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>> Behalf Of B. R. Nautial
>> Sent: 16 August 2022 17:53
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>
>> oh! its not reading not even a single word neither in word nor in excel.
>> I
>> already made long efforts to activate the same but unable to do so.
>> please!
>>
>> guide me step-by-step.
>> Thank you very much
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>
>>
>> hello,
>> first activate the narrator by pressing ctrl+window+enter key. when you
>> open
>> the narrator, information will be presented on the screen to give you the
>> brief overview about narraor including keyboard, verbosity settings etc.
>> its
>> just like when you install the jaws, start up wizard appears to enable
>> you
>> to make few primary settings or when you install NVDA, welcome screen
>> appears to let you set your desirable parameters. just tab to minimise
>> narrator and then you can start using the narraor just like the screen
>> reader.
>>
>> open any app of your choice like excel, word etc and navigate with the
>> standard window navigation commands. there is no such specific settings
>> to
>> be done to work in these applications. of course, if you would like to
>> edit
>> the data while working in these apps, scan mode must be turned off which
>> can
>> be done by pressing narrator key i.e.
>> insert+space bar. this mode is similar to browse mode in NVDA or
>> turning on quick keys navigation while working with any application which
>> enables us to quickly jump over the different  elements and controls.
>>
>> when you open any app while narrator is turned on, did you tried reading
>> or
>> editing the text? if so, what message do you hear? this will help to
>> understand your dificulty.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Mukesh
>>
>> On 8/16/22, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>>> wow!! can you tell me, how to activate narrator to read text in word &
>>> excel
>>>
>>> app with windows 10? please!
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 4:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Narrator screen reader basic questions part 1
>>>
>>>
>>> hello,
>>> from window 10 onwards, narrator has emerged to be the grate
>>> alternative to the paid screen readers. this has become very powerful
>>> and efficient inbuilt solution provided by microsoft. In window 10,
>>> you can even work independently in the regional languages like hindi
>>> using its own voices like Kalpana and Hemant. in window 11, more newer
>>> voices have been introduced which enhances more clarity in terms of
>>> tts support. i have been using narraor in all the MS applications
>>> successfully including Excel, Powerpoint, Word etc.
>>>
>>> so grate job is been done by the microsoft and hoping to have more
>>> such features added in the time to come!
>>> thanks,
>>> Mukesh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
 We need to keep pace with newer technology. Narrator is emerging as
 capable free inbuilt screen reader for Window's platform. I use
 Narrator for internet browsing, making power point presentation and
 Excel reports as well. Performing web 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Muhammad Mishbahul]

In my view, The only way forward is strict  Supervision through videography.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17-Aug-2022, at 11:07 AM, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill 
> recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects from a 
> blind candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never even told 
> in school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such 
> questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching, will 
> he be able to understand all those concepts at par with his sighted pears? We 
> must first focus on strengthning our education system.
> 
> 
> 
> Best.
> 
> On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:
>> Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
>> are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
>> people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
>> graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
>> fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
>> schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
>> include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
>> secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
>> have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
>> support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
>> of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
>> system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
>> organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
>> testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
>> reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
>> English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
>> Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
>> employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
>> This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
>> sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
>> employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
>> spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
>> about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?
>> 
>> On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR  wrote:
>>> Hi friends,
>>> Kethan said rightly.
>>> Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
>>> strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
>>> written format processes well.
>>> 
>>> Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
>>> journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
>>> will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
>>> minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
>>> Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
>>> That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
>>> Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
>>> than 20 to 25 instructions.
>>> My view is strengthen the system.
>>> Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
>>> keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
>>> If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
>>> Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
>>> sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
>>> Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
>>> government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public
>>> sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More
>>> towards functional low vision.
>>> After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts
>>> to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates.
>>>  Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all vision
>>> impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours.
>>> Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as well.
>>> Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to internet,
>>> My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the exams
>>> improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and process
>>> discipline.
>>> Exam duration has to increase on reality wise.
>>> Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in 80 minutes.
>>> Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 seconds.
>>> He or she has to understand the layout of window, followed by
>>> comprehend the screen reader accent, need to decide efficiently use
>>> keyboard commands to use to quickly complete the exam.
>>> Comprehend the questions, he or she has to listen screen reader key
>>> command twice or trice less than 30 seconds.
>>> If screen reader user taking 90 seconds to solve one question, that
>>> means before apply government exams need 

Re: [AI] Union Access

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

Agreed, presently it is enabled for cheques over a prescribed limits and 
signed.


Wanted to know as a system if it can be topped up to any value for blind 
persons for cheques with thumb impression. If it can give the confidence 
to the Bank's to clear it. Any problem in this approach?



Harish


On 17/08/2022 12:08, Rahul Gambhir wrote:

Dear Sir,

At present the system has been implemented to mitigate risk for transactions 
above threshold amount. it is implemented for the cheques which are signed, not 
applicable for thumb impression signed cheques.

With regards
Rahul Gambhir
Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Harish Kotian
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2022 13:18
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Prashant Naik 
Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access

Hi Prashant

Can this be possivly used for cheques signed with thumb impression?

Harish


On 16/08/2022 10:14, Prashant Naik wrote:

Positive Pay is a process of validating/confirming the key details of
cheques to deter Cheque frauds (applicable on high value cheques
amounting Rs 5/- and above). Please refer to the RBI’s circular
number RBI/2020- 1/41/DPSS.CO.RPPD.No.309/04.07.2005/2020-21, issued
on September 25th , 2020 Customers are requested to submit in advance
the key details of cheques issued to the beneficiaries so that Bank
can pass cheque in CTS clearing without contacting the customers. In
case of any mismatch Bank can reject the cheque or take suitable
action to prevent wrong payment or fraud. Banks have provided various
options for customers to avail this facility through various banking
channels such as: Internet Banking, Branch Visit, SMS Banking and Internet 
Banking.

Thanks & Regards
Prashant Naik



On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:46 PM kota prabhu  wrote:


positive pay system is a  security feature introduced to pass high
value cheques.
from september, it is optional for the cheques above 50 k  and
compulsary for above 5l.
suppose I  draw a  cheque in your name for encashment, if you simply
give it in your bank, it will not be cleared at clearing house. after
giving you cheque, I  should additionally confirm it through my
internet or phone banking.
this concept is even new to me, i  have told as per my understanding,
someone may correct me if i  am wrong.

On 15/08/2022, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Hi


What is this Cheque positive ?

Can you throw more light.

Harish



On 14/08/2022 21:30, Rahul Gambhir wrote:

Dear List



Sharing a few successes that Union Access achieved in recent times.

1. The latest success is an OTP generation mobile application for
authorizing login/transactions done on Union Bank of India Internet
Banking portal is made fully screen reader friendly for both
android and IOS in user acceptance test phase. Soon its updated
version with maximum accessibility will be made live. It was a
great learning experience for team Union access to work closely
with the developers and to get the remediations implemented.

2. Newly added features in the internet banking portal of the Union
Bank of India like deposit print receipt,  Re-KYC, Cheque positive
pay system and Debit card limit are improved for accessibility.

3. Bank’s few departments are sensitized and educated to send daily
informative and educative emails with text description for the
embedded images in emails. Also, e-circulars are regularly
monitored by the concerned bank’s team. In case of uploaded scanned
image pdf they immediately flag it for replacement with text searchable pdf 
format.

4. In continuation to Union Access awareness efforts post 600+
probationary officers disability and accessibility sensitization

sessions,

1400+ clerks total 18 numbers awareness sessions on disability
1400+ inclusion
are scheduled by the bank's training college which will be
conducted by team Union Access.

5. As part of ongoing Union Access outreach program, we facilitated
opening bank accounts for persons with visual impairment with the

support

from NGOs, colleagues and branch staff.  Our bank’s visually
impaired employees are equally participating in the bank's
aspiration on digital accessibility enhancement.

Still, a long way to go as our key focus is on digital banking
channels accessibility improvements.  We are thankful for the
support from the

list

and urge to provide feedback and suggestions to email id
unionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank



Best regards

Rahul Gambhir Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com


On 12-Aug-2022, at 12:38 PM, rajesh parakh

wrote:

SPLENDID JOB. GREAT INITIATIVE.
REGARDS,
RAJESH PARAKH

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of kota prabhu
Sent: 12 August 2022 00:47
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access

thanks for keeping updated us with the activities you are doing on,
we

as

an union bank stake holders and visually impaired, will be always
eager

to

here 

Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[Tanmay Srivastava]

Hi all,

Extremely sorry for such a long mail.

Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but, satguru
ji's mail compelled me to talk about it.

There are a few things which needs to be addressed.

Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with disabilities?

In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of persons
with disabilities?

It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many departments
then they set work on a priority basis.

Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education ministry
takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to enhance the
entire special education system.

Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same thing
goes with computer as well.

I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an undertaking to
pursue computer as an additional subject.

According to which, school will not be liable in case of any mishappening.

School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, they left us with
a computer instructer who did not have any experience to teach computer in
11th and 12th standard to a totally blind person, however it is important
to mention that, she tried her best to get the result.

On Wed, 17 Aug, 2022, 11:08 am Satguru Rathi, 
wrote:

> Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and
> untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects
> from a blind candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never
> even told in school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve
> such questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching,
> will he be able to understand all those concepts at par with his sighted
> pears? We must first focus on strengthning our education system.
>
>
> Best.
> On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:
>
> Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
> are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
> people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
> graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
> fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
> schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
> include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
> secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
> have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
> support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
> of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
> system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
> organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
> testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
> reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
> English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
> Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
> employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
> This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
> sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
> employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
> spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
> about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?
>
> On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR   wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
> Kethan said rightly.
> Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
> strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
> written format processes well.
>
> Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
> journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
> will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
> minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
> Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
> That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
> Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
> than 20 to 25 instructions.
> My view is strengthen the system.
> Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
> keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
> If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
> Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
> sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
> Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
> government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public
> sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More
> towards functional low vision.
> After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts
> to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired 

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

[George Abraham]

No! It is time schools and the Education departments take on the role. The 
system has to buy into the belief that blind and visually impaired persons have 
to learn STEM and they have to develop pedagogies to do so.

 

NGOs need to advocate for it.

 

Further it is time schools and NGOs who run schools hear and understand our PMs 
vision of Digital India and prepare to equip the blind youth to fit into the 
Digital World. Tools are available. It is also necessary for Govt. to invest in 
quality and meaningful education for the rural blind youth instead of touting a 
compromised SSA programme just to show numbers.

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 12:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

For this reason, some interested NGOS and volunteer groups must take initiative 
to teach maths and reasoning to candidates taking up exams.

 

 

DR. PAUL MUDDHA

DIVISIONAL MANAGER

Marketing & Public Relations Wing

Head Office Annex ground Floor

2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009

PH NO :080 22207594

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Satguru Rathi
Sent: 17 August 2022 11:08
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

 

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe. 

Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill 
recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects from a blind 
candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never even told in 
school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such questions? 
Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching, will he be able to 
understand all those concepts at par with his sighted pears? We must first 
focus on strengthning our education system.

 

Best.

On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We
are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted
people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and
graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the
fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special
schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not
include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and
secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to
have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with
support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because
of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education
system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that
organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as
testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,
reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,
English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.
Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in
employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.
This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public
sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector
employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have
spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers
about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?
 
On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR    
wrote:

Hi friends,
Kethan said rightly.
Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.
strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam
written format processes well.
 
Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the
journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe
will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two
minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.
Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.
That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.
Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more
than 20 to 25 instructions.
My view is strengthen the system.
Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with
keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader
If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own
Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public
sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.
Present government system is some of vision impaired join the
government jobs without require 

[AI] Amanda Morris reports for the New York Times: "For Blind Internet Users, the Fix Can Be Worse Than the Flaws "

[avinash shahi]

Patrick Perdue, a radio enthusiast who is blind, regularly shopped for
equipment through the website of Ham Radio Outlet. The website’s code
allowed him to easily move through the sections of each page with his
keyboard, his screen reader speaking the text.

That all changed when the store started using an automated
accessibility tool, often called an accessibility overlay, that is
created and sold by the company accessiBe. Suddenly, the site became
too difficult for Mr. Perdue to navigate. The accessiBe overlay
introduced code that was supposed to fix any original coding errors
and add more accessible features. But it reformatted the page, and
some widgets — such as the checkout and shopping cart buttons — were
hidden from Mr. Perdue’s screen reader. Labels for images and buttons
were coded incorrectly. He could no longer find the site’s search box
or the headers he needed to navigate each section of the page, he
said.

Mr. Perdue is one of hundreds of people with disabilities who have
complained about issues with automated accessibility web services,
whose popularity has risen sharply in recent years because of advances
in A.I. and new legal pressures on companies to make their websites
accessible.

Over a dozen companies provide these tools. Two of the largest,
AudioEye and UserWay, are publicly traded and reported revenues in the
millions in recent financial statements. Some charge monthly fees
ranging from about $50 to about $1,000, according to their websites,
while others charge annual fees in the several-hundred-dollar or
thousand-dollar range. (Pricing is typically presented in tiers and
depends on how many pages a site has.) These companies list major
corporations like Hulu, eBay and Uniqlo, as well as hospitals and
local governments, among their clients.

Built into their pitch is often a reassurance that their services will
not only help people who are blind or low vision use the internet more
easily but also keep companies from facing the litigation that can
arise if they don’t make their sites accessible.

But it’s not working out that way. Users like Mr. Perdue say the
software offers little help, and some of the clients that use
AudioEye, accessiBe and UserWay are facing legal action anyway. Last
year, more than 400 companies with an accessibility widget or overlay
on their website were sued over accessibility, according to data
collected by a digital accessibility provider.

“I’ve not yet found a single one that makes my life better,” said Mr.
Perdue, 38, who lives in Queens. He added, “I spend more time working
around these overlays than I actually do navigating the website.”

Last year, over 700 accessibility advocates and web developers signed
an open letter calling on organizations to stop using these tools,
writing that the practical value of the new features was “largely
overstated” and that the “overlays themselves may have accessibility
problems.” The letter also noted that, like Mr. Perdue, many blind
users already had screen readers or other software to help them while
online.

AudioEye, UserWay and accessiBe said they shared the goal of making
websites more accessible, acknowledging to some extent that their
products aren’t perfect. Lionel Wolberger, the chief operating officer
of UserWay, said the company had apologized for the issues with its
tools and had worked to fix them, pledging to do the same for anyone
else who points out problems. AccessiBe declined to answer questions
about specific criticisms of its product, but Josh Basile, a spokesman
for the company, criticized the open letter against overlays, saying
it was “pushing the conversation in the wrong direction.” He added,
though, that the company was willing to learn from feedback.

All three companies said their products would get better over time,
and both AudioEye and UserWay said they were investing in research and
development to improve artificial intelligence abilities.

David Moradi, the chief executive of AudioEye, said his automated
service and others like it were the only way to fix the internet’s
millions of active websites — a vast majority of which are not
accessible for people who are blind or low vision. “Automation has to
come into play. Otherwise, we’re never going to fix this problem, and
this is a massive problem,” he said.

Accessibility experts, however, would prefer that companies not use
automated accessibility overlays. Ideally, they say, organizations
would hire and train full-time employees to oversee these efforts. But
doing so can be difficult.

“There is absolutely a call for people with accessibility experience,
and the jobs are out there,” said Adrian Roselli, who has worked as a
digital accessibility consultant for two decades. “The skills aren’t
there yet to match because it’s been such a niche industry for so
long.”

This gap, he said, has given the companies selling automated
accessibility tools a chance to proliferate, offering websites
seemingly quick solutions to their 

RE: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

['PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia]

For this reason, some interested NGOS and volunteer groups must take initiative 
to teach maths and reasoning to candidates taking up exams.


DR. PAUL MUDDHA
DIVISIONAL MANAGER
Marketing & Public Relations Wing
Head Office Annex ground Floor
2nd Cross, Gandhi Nagar Bangalore – 560009
PH NO :080 22207594


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Satguru Rathi
Sent: 17 August 2022 11:08
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam 
'Scribe Service' Turning Into 'Business'?

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe.

Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th only and untill 
recently, few counted schools tought it upto 10th. How one expects from a blind 
candidate who has studied Maths till class 8th and was never even told in 
school about something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such questions? 
Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some coatching, will he be able to 
understand all those concepts at par with his sighted pears? We must first 
focus on strengthning our education system.



Best.
On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:

Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired friendly. We

are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for sighted

people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and

graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the

fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special

schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do not

include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the primary and

secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate enough to

have inclusive education, or having a good family status along with

support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die because

of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the education

system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest that

organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, such as

testing the candidates on various parameters such as psychometric,

reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan readerrs,

English/Hindi  reading and writing skill, mathematical ability etc.

Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for reservation in

employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full Vacancy.

This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the public

sector organizations, and even in general the big private sector

employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired who have

spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who bothers

about the unfortunates and economically backward blind candidates?



On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR  
wrote:

Hi friends,

Kethan said rightly.

Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail.

strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection and exam

written format processes well.



Present format also have issues like visualize and understand the

journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. scribe

will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or two

minute To read the instruction to screen reader users.

Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two minute.

That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 to 4 minutes.

Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to not more

than 20 to 25 instructions.

My view is strengthen the system.

Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible with

keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader

If person has use digital device to write the exam on their own

Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other public

sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility knowledge.

Present government system is some of vision impaired join the

government jobs without require knowledge and skills. Therefore public

sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. More

towards functional low vision.

After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater experts

to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates.

 Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all vision

impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours.

Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as well.

Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to internet,

My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the exams

improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and process

discipline.

Exam duration has to increase on reality wise.

Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in 80 minutes.

Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 seconds.

He or she has to 

RE: [AI] Union Access

[Rahul Gambhir]

Dear Sir, 

At present the system has been implemented to mitigate risk for transactions 
above threshold amount. it is implemented for the cheques which are signed, not 
applicable for thumb impression signed cheques. 

With regards
Rahul Gambhir
Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Harish Kotian
Sent: Tuesday, 16 August 2022 13:18
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Prashant Naik 
Subject: Re: [AI] Union Access

Hi Prashant

Can this be possivly used for cheques signed with thumb impression?

Harish


On 16/08/2022 10:14, Prashant Naik wrote:
> Positive Pay is a process of validating/confirming the key details of 
> cheques to deter Cheque frauds (applicable on high value cheques 
> amounting Rs 5/- and above). Please refer to the RBI’s circular 
> number RBI/2020- 1/41/DPSS.CO.RPPD.No.309/04.07.2005/2020-21, issued 
> on September 25th , 2020 Customers are requested to submit in advance 
> the key details of cheques issued to the beneficiaries so that Bank 
> can pass cheque in CTS clearing without contacting the customers. In 
> case of any mismatch Bank can reject the cheque or take suitable 
> action to prevent wrong payment or fraud. Banks have provided various 
> options for customers to avail this facility through various banking 
> channels such as: Internet Banking, Branch Visit, SMS Banking and Internet 
> Banking.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Prashant Naik
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:46 PM kota prabhu  wrote:
>
>> positive pay system is a  security feature introduced to pass high 
>> value cheques.
>> from september, it is optional for the cheques above 50 k  and 
>> compulsary for above 5l.
>> suppose I  draw a  cheque in your name for encashment, if you simply 
>> give it in your bank, it will not be cleared at clearing house. after 
>> giving you cheque, I  should additionally confirm it through my 
>> internet or phone banking.
>> this concept is even new to me, i  have told as per my understanding, 
>> someone may correct me if i  am wrong.
>>
>> On 15/08/2022, Harish Kotian  wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> What is this Cheque positive ?
>>>
>>> Can you throw more light.
>>>
>>> Harish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/08/2022 21:30, Rahul Gambhir wrote:
 Dear List



 Sharing a few successes that Union Access achieved in recent times.

 1. The latest success is an OTP generation mobile application for 
 authorizing login/transactions done on Union Bank of India Internet 
 Banking portal is made fully screen reader friendly for both 
 android and IOS in user acceptance test phase. Soon its updated 
 version with maximum accessibility will be made live. It was a 
 great learning experience for team Union access to work closely 
 with the developers and to get the remediations implemented.

 2. Newly added features in the internet banking portal of the Union 
 Bank of India like deposit print receipt,  Re-KYC, Cheque positive 
 pay system and Debit card limit are improved for accessibility.

 3. Bank’s few departments are sensitized and educated to send daily 
 informative and educative emails with text description for the 
 embedded images in emails. Also, e-circulars are regularly 
 monitored by the concerned bank’s team. In case of uploaded scanned 
 image pdf they immediately flag it for replacement with text searchable 
 pdf format.

 4. In continuation to Union Access awareness efforts post 600+ 
 probationary officers disability and accessibility sensitization
>> sessions,
 1400+ clerks total 18 numbers awareness sessions on disability 
 1400+ inclusion
 are scheduled by the bank's training college which will be 
 conducted by team Union Access.

 5. As part of ongoing Union Access outreach program, we facilitated 
 opening bank accounts for persons with visual impairment with the
>> support
 from NGOs, colleagues and branch staff.  Our bank’s visually 
 impaired employees are equally participating in the bank's 
 aspiration on digital accessibility enhancement.

 Still, a long way to go as our key focus is on digital banking 
 channels accessibility improvements.  We are thankful for the 
 support from the
>> list
 and urge to provide feedback and suggestions to email id 
 unionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank



 Best regards

 Rahul Gambhir Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com


 On 12-Aug-2022, at 12:38 PM, rajesh parakh 
 
 wrote:

 SPLENDID JOB. GREAT INITIATIVE.
 REGARDS,
 RAJESH PARAKH

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