RE: [AI] Achieving Accessibility (A11Y): 11 Key Points for Creating an Accessible Websites an Applications

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Amena,

I read through your entire article. Well-written. I hope it will be passed 
around to developers as you are suggesting. Well done again. Folks this is an 
example of technical knowledge put to excellent use. We must support such 
initiatives where we can.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amena Kanchwala
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 5:56 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Achieving Accessibility (A11Y): 11 Key Points for Creating an 
Accessible Websites an Applications

 

Hi everyone,

I recently wrote an article discussing 11 simple points for making websites and 
applications accessible. I would greatly appreciate your help in reaching IT 
students, developers, and early-stage entrepreneurs. As you may know from my 
previous articles, I firmly believe that accessibility should be incorporated 
during the design stage. Educating students about accessibility is crucial, as 
it enables them to develop accessible websites and applications from the start. 
Here is the link to the article:

 

 

 
https://amenakanchwala.blogspot.com/2024/06/achieving-accessibility-a11y-11-key.html

 

OR

 

 

 
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/amena-kanchwala-813545a3_accessibility-a11y-webdevelopment-activity-7205922512017199106-xz5y?utm_source=share_medium=member_desktop

 

Thanks and Regards,

Amena

 

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RE: [AI] Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

ing for the purpose of 
connecting with God or Krishna, by following one of the four paths of disciplic 
succession going back to their founders who taught this knowledge about him, 
having learnt it directly from himself, Lord Krishna. Its founder, Srila 
Prabhupada, was a unique preceptor in one of these disciplic succession 
lineages, in that, on the order of his own teacher, he presented this knowledge 
in disciplic succession to the Western countries for the first time, which has 
also eventually made its presence felt keenly in Indian society also. So in a 
nutshell, that is Iskcon. Whether you fall into the scheme of things for this 
group will depend on your eagerness to learn more about Lord Krishna, about 
your own identity as a spirit soul, about Karma, Reincarnation, the ultimate 
purpose for existence, all of which as collectively presented in disciplic 
succession. Anyone interested to do that is certainly welcome in our group. 
I’ll provide an analogy for clarity. There are people who may love eating food, 
and they may belong to a group discussing and experimenting with all kinds of 
food. There may also however be a group uniquely interested in the taste of 
honey, and the various gradations of honey that may be harvested. The second 
group is obviously more specialized. You will have to decide how specialized is 
your interest in determining whether you wish to participate. Participation in 
our group is welcome by anyone remotely interested in learning about the above 
topics in disciplic succession, but who are sight challenged in that spiritual 
context.

 

I hope I have answered you satisfactorily. Thanks again for the feedback, and 
do let me know if you wish to discuss further to evaluate whether you would be 
interested. I suggest if we can speak more personally in case you have 
questions or even concerns about ISKCON that may be a more personal approach 
for you to express yourself. My Whatsapp No is +27 82 291 6081. I prefer 
Whatsapp because call quality is superior to phone calls for the most part.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 Harish

On 6/5/2024 6:38 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

 

Dear community,

 

On Wednesday 29 May 2024, a very pleasant and courageous Vaishnava visited me 
at my home for the first time. Isvara Puri Prabhu, like me, is totally blind, 
but I was surprised to learn that he has been living as an aspiring travelling 
devotee for some time. What started as a social visit for SadhuSanga turned out 
to be a discovery of many incredible shared interests upon which we wish to 
explore jointly.

 

One of these areas regards the establishment of a community of blind 
bodied/visually impaired  devotees world-wide. Presently he is hosting a 
reading session group for Telugu speakers, and now we wish to extend into the 
English speaking audience.

 

The following is a tentative program structure:

 

1. We have discussed Whatsapp as the most likely meeting client since most 
people already use it, and since it is also reasonably accessible on the 
various computer and phone platforms used by the blind community.

 

2. We will systematically read Bhagavad-gita from beginning to end, followed by 
Srimad Bhagavatam, Caitanya Caritamrta, Nectar of Devotion and Nectar of 
Instruction. Devotees who are able to read in Braille, from computer or phone 
text-to-speech may like to take turns to read to the group. Reading of the 
Sanskrit can be illiminated if the reader cannot read from their given reading 
platform. This segment will last for 1 hour.

 

3. We can dedicate time to any other topics related to living as visually 
challenged devotees, in which experiences can be shared and possible solutions 
explored together. These may be requested by group members for consideration in 
future meetings. This segment may last 30 minutes.

 

Examples of such topics may include things like living with visual challenge in 
a  non-devotee family setting, navigating to temples, taking help at temples, 
staying overnight, preference for on-line sanga due to mobility challenges, the 
future for those of us living without sight, practicing devotional service as 
our world changes, how the Vedic civilization may be either supportive or 
disadvantageous to living as blind devotees, navigating in a Varnasrama 
community being blind, and the level of acceptance and assistance from sighted 
devotees in the various settings in which we find ourselves seeking sadhu sanga.

 

4. The frequency of these gatherings are still tentative, but I propose here 
once weekly during a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or evening to accomodate most 
people outside of work and other commitments.

 

5. The conditions for participation shall be as follows:

5.1. The participant should be living with blindness, or have a very strong 
affinity for, or experience in dealing with blind people. Taking turns to read 
will be given preference to totally bl

[AI] Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Living with Blindness as a Hare Krishna Devotee

 

Dear community,

 

On Wednesday 29 May 2024, a very pleasant and courageous Vaishnava visited
me at my home for the first time. Isvara Puri Prabhu, like me, is totally
blind, but I was surprised to learn that he has been living as an aspiring
travelling devotee for some time. What started as a social visit for
SadhuSanga turned out to be a discovery of many incredible shared interests
upon which we wish to explore jointly.

 

One of these areas regards the establishment of a community of blind
bodied/visually impaired  devotees world-wide. Presently he is hosting a
reading session group for Telugu speakers, and now we wish to extend into
the English speaking audience.

 

The following is a tentative program structure:

 

1. We have discussed Whatsapp as the most likely meeting client since most
people already use it, and since it is also reasonably accessible on the
various computer and phone platforms used by the blind community.

 

2. We will systematically read Bhagavad-gita from beginning to end, followed
by Srimad Bhagavatam, Caitanya Caritamrta, Nectar of Devotion and Nectar of
Instruction. Devotees who are able to read in Braille, from computer or
phone text-to-speech may like to take turns to read to the group. Reading of
the Sanskrit can be illiminated if the reader cannot read from their given
reading platform. This segment will last for 1 hour.

 

3. We can dedicate time to any other topics related to living as visually
challenged devotees, in which experiences can be shared and possible
solutions explored together. These may be requested by group members for
consideration in future meetings. This segment may last 30 minutes.

 

Examples of such topics may include things like living with visual challenge
in a  non-devotee family setting, navigating to temples, taking help at
temples, staying overnight, preference for on-line sanga due to mobility
challenges, the future for those of us living without sight, practicing
devotional service as our world changes, how the Vedic civilization may be
either supportive or disadvantageous to living as blind devotees, navigating
in a Varnasrama community being blind, and the level of acceptance and
assistance from sighted devotees in the various settings in which we find
ourselves seeking sadhu sanga.

 

4. The frequency of these gatherings are still tentative, but I propose here
once weekly during a Saturday or Sunday afternoon or evening to accomodate
most people outside of work and other commitments.

 

5. The conditions for participation shall be as follows:

5.1. The participant should be living with blindness, or have a very strong
affinity for, or experience in dealing with blind people. Taking turns to
read will be given preference to totally blind participants.

5.2. The participant should specifically have an affinity towards spiritual
life, but more particularly towards the Krishna Conscious way of life.

 

6. I'm still thinking of a short name for the group that will ring well in
English.

 

Anyone interested may contact me privately for further discussion. Should
you know any persons or groups fitting the target audience of this
invitation, please share with them.

 

With kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

Whatsapp No: +27 82 2916081

India Phone number: +91 70372 95962

E-mail: ykhan...@gmail.com

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RE: [AI] need help with labtop.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

But then will you not be copying the executable file and not the shortcut since 
at the file location is the .exe file?

For reasons like this and more I don’t really like Windows 11 much.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Gaurav
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 7:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] need help with labtop.

 

Hello,

 

You can go to the icon in the start menu, hit the applications key, and there 
you will find the more sub menu, assuming that you are on windows11. There, hit 
the open file location option, and you can copy paste the shortcut to the 
desktop from there using control c, windows m, and control v.

 

Hope this helps.




Regards,
Gaurav SharmaMy LinkedIn  

 

 

On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 10:47 PM Dr Yusuf Vohra mailto:dr.yusu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

hello friends

here I have hp laptop. in that, I want to know how put any icons or softwares 
on desktop

with warm regards,?

,


 

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RE: [AI] Release of Standard Operating Procedure for JAWS Procurement at Union Bank of India and other empowering initiatives during the month of GAAD-2024

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Rahul,

Let me echo again my previous sentiments and those of others here.

There are many accessibility posts in both public and private sectors around 
the world, in which people hold lip-service office, enjoying the purks and 
rewards of such posts but  without making significant contributions to our 
community. Usually such posts exist as box-ticking exercises to fulfil legal 
obligations or empty marketing strategy, but  with little practical result.

 

You are demonstrating that there is hope against that trend. What needs to be 
discussed is how to fill such posts with determined individuals holding such 
values and commitments demonstrated by you here. When such lip-service posts 
are created and filled without the proper motive, how to have these exposed and 
pressured to characterize real practical value. Perhaps some strict criteria 
should be defining any posts related to accessibility in any public and private 
space. Just my thoughts for those empowered in the legislature.

 

Congratulations on all you do, Rahul. You are empowered by God Almighty whether 
you realize this or not, but all the same you deserve our deepest respect. My 
hat off to you.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rahul Gambhir
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 10:39 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Release of Standard Operating Procedure for JAWS Procurement at 
Union Bank of India and other empowering initiatives during the month of 
GAAD-2024

 

Dear list, 

We are pleased to inform the list about the release of a Standard Operating 
Procedure (SOP) for the procurement of JAWS (Job Access With Speech) software 
at Union Bank of India.

Union Bank of India has a longstanding commitment to supporting its visually 
impaired staff members by providing screen reading software to facilitate them 
in effectively discharging their duties. In addition to JAWS, the bank has also 
made NVDA (Nonvisual Desktop Access) software available to empower officials to 
work efficiently in Hindi and other regional languages.

This development is part of Bank’s broader commitment to digital accessibility, 
as highlighted during our recent Global Accessibility Awareness Day (GAAD) 
initiatives. These initiatives include:

· Conducting a digital accessibility learning series via email for all 
staff members of the Bank.

· Specialized training programs are being conducted for the visually 
impaired staff members with screen reader with the involvement of visually 
impaired resource persons, ensuring the training's relevance and effectiveness.

· Dedicated training sessions, complete with sign language 
interpreters, are being organized to support Bank’s hearing impaired staff, 
ensuring they have the tools and knowledge to excel in their roles.

· A comprehensive training session on digital accessibility was 
recently held for our IT officers, featuring insights from industry experts. 
This training aimed to ensure that all software developed or procured by the 
bank is born accessible, promoting an inclusive digital environment from the 
ground up.

The newly issued SOP aims to streamline the procurement process for JAWS across 
all branches and offices. The objectives of the SOP include:

*   Ensuring a uniform and efficient procedure for acquiring JAWS software, 
making it easier for all branches and offices to support visually impaired 
staff.
*   Providing clear guidelines on the necessary system specifications to 
ensure optimal performance of the JAWS software.
*   Outlining a step-by-step guide for the installation of JAWS, making it 
simple and straightforward for users to set up the software.
*   Offering a comprehensive troubleshooting guide to resolve common issues 
that may arise during the installation and use of JAWS.

We believe this SOP, along with our GAAD initiatives, will significantly 
enhance the accessibility and productivity of our visually impaired colleagues 
by providing them with the necessary tools and support.

Through the Union Access Initiative, inputs  from the community and with the 
support from the leadership of the Bank, we are striving to develop and enhance 
a culture of digital accessibility and inclusion in the organization.

 

 

 

With regards

Rahul Gambhir

Mobile: 989133

Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com <mailto:rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com> 

 

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RE: [AI] Sight Demo

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

I heard somewhere that blind people are allowed to make use of public transport 
free of charge along with an assistant. Is this true?

I’m living in Vrindavan, and would like to come to Delhi to some of these 
accessibility demonstrations from time to time.

>From my home in Pushpanjali Rukmini Bihar Vrindavan, how would I navigate to 
>the main transport line to take me to an actual venue in Delhi? Is this very 
>difficult?

My sighted wife can accompany me but she’s afraid because both of us can only 
speak English, so to speak to people to say where we want to go if we get lost 
is very difficult. Plus, we are new in India and don’t have a clue about the 
geography.

 

Will this be a significant challenge? If any one has any advice to share will 
be great.

 

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of george.abrah...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 1:01 PM
To: 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia 
Subject: [AI] Sight Demo

 

Hi folks in Delhi,

 

We have a private demo of the HearSight device at our office tomorrow 
afternoon. If any of you are interested in attending the demo, please do 
connect with me on george.abrah...@gmail.com <mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com> 

 

We have space for just 5 people. You would have heard our podcast on Spotify on 
HearSight.

 

Best,

 

George 

 

George Abraham

CEO

Score Foundation

17/107 LGF

Vikram Vihar

Lajpatnagar 4

New Delhi 110024

Ph: 011 45500380

Mob: 9810934040

Email: george.abrah...@gmail.com <mailto:george.abrah...@gmail.com> 

Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org.in 
<http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org.in> 

National Helpdesk for the Blind: 18005320469

Twitter: @georgebhai

Scan & donate: 



 

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RE: [AI] Please suggest birthday gift ideas for visually impaired teenagers

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

If they are blind then may be a slate-and-stylus along with a braille sheet 
thickness paper writing pad, for taking notes manually.

 

Then again most would prefer taking voicenotes or memos on their smart phones 
anyway.

Anyway just a thought. May be an accessible smart-phone if that’s in budget!

 

YJd

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Behalf Of Cauvery Krishna
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 5:22 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Please suggest birthday gift ideas for visually impaired 
teenagers

 

Any other ideas friends 

 

On Sun, 19 May 2024, 17:24 rahul agarwal, mailto:rahul19...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

 

I think you may give braille or talking hand watch which will make one more 
independent On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 6:38 AM, Cauvery Krishna 
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RE: [AI] CCPD issues range of directions to Ola Cabs paving the way for disability inclusive behavior by cab aggregators

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Amar,

Great work!

Your contribution to people with disability is certainly well received by all 
here, and we wish you all the best going forward. I’m sure nobody will fail to 
agree with these sentiments, so I can safely say I don’t speak only for myself!

 

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2024 1:37 PM
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Subject: [AI] CCPD issues range of directions to Ola Cabs paving the way for 
disability inclusive behavior by cab aggregators

 

Dear all,

 

On May 10 2024, the Court of Chief Commissioner for Persons With Disabilities 
issued wide ranging directions to Ola Cabs to make their services disability 
inclusive. The top points from the order are as under:

 

 • Allow users to disclose their disability in profile and conduct targeted 
disability-specific sensitization for its driver partners
• Appointment of an Accessibility Auditor and a Grievance Redressal Officer 
• Clear direction from the company’s CEO to ensure accessibility of all 
existing and new features
• Submission of an undertaking by the company to the CCPD for compliance with 
accessibility standards and mandating self-certification on an annual basis 

Ola Cabs has to submit a compliance report in 90 days from the issuance of this 
order, failing which the matter will be reported to the Parliament.

 

Detailed order is attached for your reference.

 

Regards,

Amar Jain

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RE: [AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi.

Very useful info indeed. Thanks a lot.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Harshit Lohia
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 8:21 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

 

Hi,

Buy a standard USB keyboard used with PCs and a B/C to A OTG cable as per your 
android phone type. This shall work better instead of buying a 
wireless/bluetooth keyboard.

A presentation 

 
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/159b9b460h78qtDdcp0ACzdLakZNS56fO/view?usp=drive_web>
  Using Android with keyboard Presentation.mp3

conducted by Bookshare India during Covid period is available with this email.

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 5:23 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

I’m anticipating a time shortly that I will not have access to a computer. We 
are moving into a rented home for some months until we renovate our newly 
purchased home.

During that time I won’t have access to my computer but would like to still 
read scripture and other texts, including my E-mails.

Normally using Jaws/NVDA and the QWERTY Keyboard, I read documents by line, 
using down-arrow to read, and things like home, end, control-arrows by word to 
carefully navigate through difficult passages Etc.

Contrarily, on the phone, I find it awkward to read by swiping to reading modes 
using Talkback’s granularity settings then reading by swiping. One slightly 
wrong swipe and it navigates away from the current line in the text. Therefore 
I’ve never moved over to using a phone for such tasks as reading.

How are you all doing it? I’ve never used the function but from the Talkback 
documentation it appears we can connect a keyboard to the phone and navigate 
text similar to how we do it in Windows. Since I’ve never had a physical 
keyboard for the phone I’ve never had a chance to play around with it, so I 
simply don’t know. But it does appear Talkback may have lots of commands for 
navigating text, would that be true?

If anyone is willing to discuss this I’m happy to talk also. My Whatsapp number 
is:

+27 82 291 6081.

 

Any advice will be very much appreciated, including what keyboard to buy that 
feels comfortable for us.

 

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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[AI] Using a smart phone to comfortably read documents

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I'm anticipating a time shortly that I will not have access to a computer.
We are moving into a rented home for some months until we renovate our newly
purchased home.

During that time I won't have access to my computer but would like to still
read scripture and other texts, including my E-mails.

Normally using Jaws/NVDA and the QWERTY Keyboard, I read documents by line,
using down-arrow to read, and things like home, end, control-arrows by word
to carefully navigate through difficult passages Etc.

Contrarily, on the phone, I find it awkward to read by swiping to reading
modes using Talkback's granularity settings then reading by swiping. One
slightly wrong swipe and it navigates away from the current line in the
text. Therefore I've never moved over to using a phone for such tasks as
reading.

How are you all doing it? I've never used the function but from the Talkback
documentation it appears we can connect a keyboard to the phone and navigate
text similar to how we do it in Windows. Since I've never had a physical
keyboard for the phone I've never had a chance to play around with it, so I
simply don't know. But it does appear Talkback may have lots of commands for
navigating text, would that be true?

If anyone is willing to discuss this I'm happy to talk also. My Whatsapp
number is:

+27 82 291 6081.

 

Any advice will be very much appreciated, including what keyboard to buy
that feels comfortable for us.

 

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

No you can do that (choose sound devices for different Apps) in Windows 10 as 
well!

Windows I for settings. Press Tab to System and Spacebar to select. Tab to 
Display then down arrow once to Sound and press Spacebar to select. Tab 11 
times to Advanced Sound Options, App volume and device  preferences. Press 
Spacebar to open it. Now tab 5 times to the Input List Box. Specifically this 
List Box contain all the opened programs that are playing audio at this time. 
Arrow to the one you want to change output device for, and then tab 3 times to 
the Output Combo Box. Press down arrow key which will change the output through 
the different audio devices on your system.

This is all in Windows 10.

 

Usually most programs have settings to choose output device under the Audio 
settings in the App itself.

 

Hope this helps.

 

YJd

 

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Behalf Of vadhimoo...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 5:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

Provided that you have Windows 11, go to settings, and then sound mixer 
options. There you can choose audio device for different applications. EG. 
Headphone to hear JAWS, Laptop default speaker to hear the WebEx call etc. Hope 
it resolves your issue.

 

Vetri.

 

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Behalf Of george.abrah...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:05 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: RE: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

On Zoom, Teams, Meet etc. use head phones. Also while doing the audio settings 
select the head phones for the speakers. Your problem will be resolved.

 

 

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Behalf Of Mission Accessibility
Sent: 13 May 2024 13:34
To: accessindia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: [AI] JAWS speaking during a VC call

 

Hi All,

 

I often have to attend hearings via VC on Zoom or WebEx. JAWS' voice carries to 
the other participants in the meeting. I have used the insert+space+v+b 
keystroke, with arrow keys. but that has not solved the problem. Please guide. 
The court administration often mutes me during hearings due to the noise that 
JAWS creates. I am unabl to refer to my notes or consult any documents in the 
middle of a hearing because of this issue.

 

Rahul

 

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[AI] Door plaque in print and braille

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

I'm looking for an organization that can make a door plaque in print and
braille, with the name of my home studio on it, and a short description.

Gaura Records Audio

Music for the Soul

 

And another plaque displaying the studio name and our house number on the
front gate of the house in large print viewable from the road for finding
our house, but with braille on it also.

I'm hoping for nice crisp braille dots preferably on hard plastic that won't
fade easily, but the whole thing and its design should look nice for
sightlings too.

 

Back in South Africa we had this sort of thing on each of the office doors
displaying the name of the person, their position and the door number. For
example my door was labelled:

Yogan Khandoo

Training Officer

108

Neatly and nicely centered below each other in contracted braille, all on
the plastic strip. Next to it was the print version. So this is how I got
the idea to do this at my home studio we are now building.

 

Any idea if some organization is doing this here in India also?

Thanks good people.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done for the same?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

People may be soft-heartedly feeling sympathetic seeing us as blind. No harm 
intended. We simply accept their feeling of compassion, bless them from the 
heart and move on. They could do with some punya even if that is true anyway. 
Or at least they could do with some blessings from us for the help or facility 
they might provide us, blind or not as we may be!

Just my thoughts.

 

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Behalf Of Cauvery Krishna
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:52 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done 
for the same?

 

These are some of the experiences had by one of my  students of which I don't 
have an answer. Could you please help me.

1. Di, I am a visually impaired  MBA student, pursuing MBA from an IIM. I was 
with a senior at the grocery store of our campus, i waited as the senior got 
ice cream for both of us. The shopkeeper said, "inko bolo kal aane k liye, kal 
meri taraf se mai inko kuch dunga. Ice cream ya juice kuch dunga meri taraf 
se." Which roughly translates to, "ask him to come tomorrow, I'll give him an 
ice cream or juice from my side." So the question is why would the shopkeeper 
have said the same? I am an MBA student, I was wearing clean clothes, I was 
holding a forty thousand rupees phone in one hand and a white stick in the 
other hand. I don't understand did he think I can't afford a Rs 50 ice cream? I 
am paying the equal amount of fees but upon my survey he never said anything 
like this to any of the sighted or non disabled students. Why was the ice cream 
? For merely being blind?

2.  Di, one of my batchmates said, "how is the preparation for the exams going? 
Do one thing, come let me teach you, I'll get punya by teaching you." Why is 
it? Why can't people with blindness just exist? What is this attachment of 
punya if we help the blind we'll get punya? Are we humans or some divine 
entity. If you don't get punya by helping or teaching a sighted or a non 
disabled person then why punya from the blind? 

Please suggest how I can help my student, as clearly, she is in a lot of stress 
by these experiences. 

Regards. 

Cauvery She/her.

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RE: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

If you are using Jaws, try this:

>From Windows Explorer, press Applications key when the file is under the 
>cursor, then go down to Convenient OCR with Jaws and press enter. This should 
>OCR the file without loading into Adobe Acrobat reader and bring up the Jaws 
>OCR results.

A temporary solution I guess but it helps to save a life sometimes! J

 

YJd

 

 

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Behalf Of Mission Accessibility
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 1:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

 

Am also struggling to use adobe since many months, with no meaningful help or 
solutions.

 

Rahul

 

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
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Subject: Re: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file. 

 

what i  noticed is that, in the latest versions, some time we get popup alerts 
by adobe which are not accessible to us. dismissing that message may start 
reading documents.  

we need to make several changes by going to adobe properties after opening a  
file.

opening adobe software first and then opening document through it may work some 
time instead of directly opening the document.

 

 

On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 09:06, Amiyo Biswas mailto:amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hello,

 

If I remember correctly, jaws OCR was available with version 18. Press 
application key on the file and arrow down to the option convenient OCR with 
jaws, and press entr on it. Allow a few seconds and jaws should start reading.

 

If it does not work, then you should use advance versions of adobe acrobat 
reader or jaws.

 

Normally jaws reads any text pdf file. The OCR feature is required for scanned 
pdf files only.

 

With best regards,
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From: Chandrashekhar Kulkarni   

To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.   

Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 4:54 PM

Subject: [AI] Problem in reading pdf file.

 

Hi accessindians,
Hope all are fine and doing well.
I use adobe reader dc for reading pdf files on pc. But last many days I find it 
does not read anything. It says blank. I use jaws 2018. Do I need to do any 
settings? Please guide in step by step manner.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

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RE: [AI] A good news to share

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Excellent. Congratulations. Seeing the progress of our own people is always 
heart-warming.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Ajay Minocha
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2024 2:15 PM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] A good news to share

 

Hello Friends,

 

Writing here after a long time, hope everyone is doing good.

I am happy to share that I have been promoted to the post of Manager 
(Regulatory and Legal Support Advisory practice) in Deloitte USI.

My job would include working with Firm's biggest banking clients based out of 
US and other foreign jurisdictions to provide control testing support and 
strengthen their compliance framework.

Want to take this opportunity to thank all my mentors (whom I could meet only 
because of the mailing list) for all your support and guidance.

 

Regards,

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RE: [AI] Whatsapp Accessibility (all platforms)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

I’m writing here some quick feedback on my discussions with Birla Institute of 
Technology And Science, regarding Whatsapp accessibility

 

Their research aims at presenting papers for consideration in future 
development, although they are not directly involved in development itself.

Their focus is on general user accessibility as well as accessibility by those 
with access challenges, not the latter alone.

 

We discussed how the acquisition by Meta has led to overwhelming communication 
chat, messaging and status-level platforms all into Whatsapp. This overwhelms 
also sighted and abled-bodied users as well.

 

Whatsapp for Android:

It was proposed by me that the problem of using the Voice Note button in a chat 
results in the screen-reader reading out the latest message while the voice 
note is being recorded, but that this seems to be resolved in the latest 
Talkback on Android versions.

 

Long press on messages could include Emojis as a function to choose instead of 
directly popping up the Reactions.

 

Access to Gifs and stickers could be made accessible by AI integration:

Images of people and objects could be described; TTS could be used to make 
images of Text readable, and a combination of these two deployed in AI 
integration.

 

Message Order: TalkBack reads messages in an unusual order, announcing the 
message content, profile picture, then contact name, followed by their phone 
number in a numerical format.

[I have not been able to replicate this from the chat window so could not 
demonstrate the problem.]

 

Whatsapp for PC:

 

Keyboard shortcuts assignments for answering and ending calls could be natively 
applied to the buttons for those functions.

 

Appologies for features that did not make it into this discussion. We ran out 
of time and a future discussion was offered which I accepted. I also proposed 
discussions with other interested Talkback users but was told they will 
consider for future but for now a selection was made based on the forms 
completed on their completed feedback request.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 2:10 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

This morning I was contacted by researchers from Birla Institute of Technology 
And Science,for a WhatsApp accessibility Usability learning session. Before I 
commit my availability date for this discussion, I thought it would be best for 
me to write to the group for feedback on your experience with Whatsapp 
accessibility on the various platforms.

I do not know the level of impact of this organization on the future of 
Whatsapp accessibility, so I cannot offer you any guarantees, but I figured it 
would be worthwhile offering feedback to a large institution dealing with its 
accessibility.

So, anyone interested in offering me feedback with any significant problems 
with Whatsapp accessibility on any platform, please send me a private E-mail on 
ykhan...@gmail.com <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> 

Please be brief and concise. Mention the following:

1.   What platform your issue is related to: Android, IOS, Windows or MAC.

2.What screen-reader are you using: Talkback, Prudence, Voiceover, 
Jaws, NVDA, Etc.

3.   A brief and concise description of the accessibility issue needing to 
be addressed.

4.   Whether or not you have found that the problem can be replicated using 
alternate platforms or screen-readers.

Please only discuss accessibility of Whatsapp and do not write with any other 
related accessibility issues. I will be compiling notes and cannot waste time 
with clutter as time is limited.

 

I will be deciding on available date for my meeting with them by tomorrow 
morning. Therefore any feedback from you must come my way by end of today 1 May 
2024.

 

Thank you kindly.,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Payal Jethra,

All I can say is you are very brave. I could never do this, and I am blind from 
birth.

I know of two brothers who were travelling by train, twins but fully sighted.

They were trying to get off the train and one was late so he tried to jump off 
but got killed doing so.

My personal opinion is that you should rather wait for accessibility 
improvements before trying this again. It may just be too dangerous. Just my 
thoughts though.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Payal Jethra
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

 

Hi All,

 

I travelled this morning from Ahmedabad to Mumbai Borivali & have been 
frequently travelling Mumbai Gujarat route. My observations-

 

* Since there is no way to identify myself as a passenger with visual 
impairment while booking ticket, there is no awareness/alertness amongst the 
team of such a passenger. 

* I got to understand from fellow passengers that there is an indicator/display 
that shows the number of kilometers to be covered. We wouldn't be able to tell 
otherwise.

 

* Until the ticket was checked, there was no way for me to identify attendants 
on duty. God to hear on the announcement that there are helpline number 
stickers stuck near doors. 

 

* Unlike airline staff, the Vand Bharat team is yet to be trained to assist 
with getting off. The train hault at Borivali station is only 2 minutes & I was 
lucky to have other passengers wheel down my bag onto the platform. 

 

So, when we do write to them  we'd want to keep some of these & other points in 
mind.

 

Regards,

Payal Jethra 

 

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 6:29 PM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA mailto:bsvermad...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Concession is available in shatabdi chair car, rajdhani AC3 75% of the fair 
will be charged. No concession available in vande bharat, garibrath, 
janshatabdi, hamsafar and duranto trains.

 

On 4/30/2024 3:53 PM, george.abrah...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

No concession on Vande Bharat, Shatabdi, Rajdhani trains. Concessions available 
only for Totally Blind persons. Please correct me if I am wrong!  

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in    
  On 
Behalf Of Radio Udaan
Sent: 30 April 2024 14:07
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Concession to persons with disabilities in vande Bharat trains

 



Hello Ajay and all,

I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to bring to your attention that 
there seems to be neither any concession nor any quota in seat booking for 
Vande Bharat.

I have taken the initiative to file a petition regarding this matter in the 
CCPD office. Let's wait and watch how things progress from here.

Best regards,

Danish Mahajan

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 7:25 AM Rahul Bhatia mailto:smartrahulbha...@gmail.com> > wrote:

No concession is available on vande bharat train as of now. At least some 
persentage of concession must be provided

 

On Tue, 30 Apr, 2024, 5:55 am Himanshu Ranjan, mailto:sudhanshuranjan98...@gmail.com> > wrote:

No, Duronto Express trains do not offer concessions to physically challenged 
passengers
but, Garib Rath Express trains reserve two lower and two upper berths for 
people with disabilities (PWDs) on a first-come, first-served basis.
However, PWDs must have to pay the full fare for this facility.

Thanks,

Himanshu.

 

On Mon, 29 Apr, 2024, 10:59 pm Mohib Anwar Rafay, mailto:mohibra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I think Doranto and Garibrath also don't provide any concession for blind 
passengers. 

 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:43 PM Himanshu Ranjan 
mailto:sudhanshuranjan98...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi sir,

Vande Bharat does not provide any concession for persons with disability.

It just offers full ticket.

For more details you can check out this official PDF available on IRCTC site:

https://contents.irctc.co.in/en/Salient%20Features%20of%20Vande%20Bharat%20Train.pdf

Thanks,

Himanshu.

 

On Mon, 29 Apr, 2024, 9:37 pm Ajay Minocha, mailto:ajayminoc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everyone, this query is little bit urgent 

I wanted to enquire if someone has been successful to avail concession while 
travelling through vande Bharat trains

If yes then what is the percentage of concession that person with disabilities 
are eligible for? Thanks in advance 

Ajay

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[AI] Whatsapp Accessibility (all platforms)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,

This morning I was contacted by researchers from Birla Institute of
Technology And Science,for a WhatsApp accessibility Usability learning
session. Before I commit my availability date for this discussion, I thought
it would be best for me to write to the group for feedback on your
experience with Whatsapp accessibility on the various platforms.

I do not know the level of impact of this organization on the future of
Whatsapp accessibility, so I cannot offer you any guarantees, but I figured
it would be worthwhile offering feedback to a large institution dealing with
its accessibility.

So, anyone interested in offering me feedback with any significant problems
with Whatsapp accessibility on any platform, please send me a private E-mail
on ykhan...@gmail.com <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> 

Please be brief and concise. Mention the following:

1.   What platform your issue is related to: Android, IOS, Windows or
MAC.

2.What screen-reader are you using: Talkback, Prudence, Voiceover,
Jaws, NVDA, Etc.

3.   A brief and concise description of the accessibility issue needing
to be addressed.

4.   Whether or not you have found that the problem can be replicated
using alternate platforms or screen-readers.

Please only discuss accessibility of Whatsapp and do not write with any
other related accessibility issues. I will be compiling notes and cannot
waste time with clutter as time is limited.

 

I will be deciding on available date for my meeting with them by tomorrow
morning. Therefore any feedback from you must come my way by end of today 1
May 2024.

 

Thank you kindly.,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

This is a very pleasant surprise. In South Africa we did not have very much 
inclusion like this.

Here the roads are impossible to walk particularly in the villages, but at 
least we have these pleasant surprises from time to time I guess.

 

From: 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Sir, these many medicines also come with braille display example the tablet 
that I take for liver issues is written in braille and few other medicines also 
have braille written.

Thanks to the technology and importance given to Visually challenged in society.

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 29 April 2024 16:24
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
content is safe. 

Hare Krishna Rajesh,

 

All the best locating the product. If you don’t find it I could ask my wife to 
send a link to it on Amazon. Let me know. 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Reach Now
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Greetings yamuna:

 

Hare Krishna!

 

This is most interesting indeed.

 

I have never heard of this company but will surely check them out first thing 
tomorrow and place an order too. 

 

I also plan to leave a review on Amazon featuring my appreciation post 
purchase.  I also encourage others to do the same. 

 

As they say, there is strength in numbers.

 

I have always believed that reservations, promotions, special programs and so 
on for our community are mostly lip service. Only a handful of organizations 
are performing genuine work like this one. 

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Rajesh from Noida

 

- Original Message ----- 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:16 PM

Subject: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not 
off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hare Krishna Rajesh,

 

All the best locating the product. If you don’t find it I could ask my wife to 
send a link to it on Amazon. Let me know. 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Reach Now
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Greetings yamuna:

 

Hare Krishna!

 

This is most interesting indeed.

 

I have never heard of this company but will surely check them out first thing 
tomorrow and place an order too. 

 

I also plan to leave a review on Amazon featuring my appreciation post 
purchase.  I also encourage others to do the same. 

 

As they say, there is strength in numbers.

 

I have always believed that reservations, promotions, special programs and so 
on for our community are mostly lip service. Only a handful of organizations 
are performing genuine work like this one. 

Thanks and regards,

 

 

Rajesh from Noida

 

- Original Message - 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 10:16 PM

Subject: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not 
off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] Talking cash note counting machine

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

I'm looking for a talking automatic note counting machine. Price is of
secondary concern. Main thing is it must reject fake notes, it must flip
through the batch of notes automatically and count them, and it must speak
the results.

Any advice will be appreciated. Also where to buy from preferably on-line.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by rikshaw independently

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

I used to travel with a laptop bag with electronics in it, including a 
braille-me external hard drive, laptop  Etc. The fear was that if he thought to 
rob me and throw me out of the car, at the least they would have my last live 
location, even if they stole my phone also.

In South Africa crime is a big business.

In India they tend to scam people but rarely physically attack and rob them 
with physical force. Back in South Africa crime was hard brute force crime, 
particularly against Indians because we are considered soft targets within 
Black communities.

Anyway I digress.

 

YJd

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 8:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by 
rikshaw independently

 

The driver will not click on okay till he confirm that you have reached at the 
right place, don’t worry he will not leave you without reaching you at your 
exact location. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 6:20 PM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi,

Are they so considerate?

Because, the driver will want to leave as soon as the ride is over.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:29 PM Cauvery Krishna mailto:cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I generally ask the driver to drop me till the gate or till the reception. 

 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, 13:35 Aman Preet Singh, mailto:aps32...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Though I have not use this, but I can suggest you an idea. Whenever you travel 
with Ola or Uber, during that, you can talk to the driver and fix him as your 
daily rider, then he will knew that from where he have to pick up you and where 
to drop daily. After that, you can book the ride and call him and tell that I 
have booked a ride, then he will self take your ride and will come to your 
location. You may use this daily. But I am not sure this idea will work or not, 
I suggested you as I think. If this idea works, you may commute with Ola and 
Uber daily independently. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 11:15 AM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello to the group,

I am in college, till now I have had a fixed rickshaw driver pick and drop me.

However, I am considering Uber as a mode of transport to commute on a daily 
basis.

Can someone guide me how to commute independently using Uber or Ola and what to 
do when going to a new place?

For example, what is the approach when you reach that location using google 
maps.

We won't know where exactly the rikshaw driver has stopped the rickshaw and 
where am I supposed to go after getting down from the auto.

Add to that, there will be god knows how many and what obstacles.

Polls, tree branches, trash cans and our favourite street dogs.

Please someone reach out and help me by sharing your experience.

 

Regards,

Saurav

Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by rikshaw independently

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

You might need to go through a few bad incidents with not so nice drivers, but 
eventually you should get a pleasant and patient driver who will be willing to 
help you, particularly if he knows that you will specifically call him up to 
accept the job through the Uber provider.

That was how I did it while working back in South Africa, but people are people 
all over the world, some pleasant, some impatient, some greedy and others 
helpful Etc. You just have to go through them until the right one comes along. 
It’s a little like dating! J And I should know because I’m now married to my 
third wife which means I had 2 previous unsuccessful and very painful 
marriages! Life’s like that! What to do!

Good luck finding the right driver, and the right everything else!

Oh one important tip: Make sure a loved one knows you are travelling in case 
anything goes wrong. Send them a Whatsapp Live Location so they can follow 
where the driver is taking you at any time during the journey, so they can find 
you easily at any time if something happens. For this you should have enough 
data on your phone and also you can keep in touch by phone with the person at 
home.

When I used to travel to work with a new unfamiliar driver, I used to send my 
wife a Whatsapp live location and she would sit at home watching my journey. If 
something seemed strange she would immediately phone me. The idea was if she’s 
suspicious about what’s going on she would arrange help and follow my location.

Hope this might work also for you.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Saurav Hegde
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 6:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Using uber as a mode of transport and how to commute by 
rikshaw independently

 

Hi,

Are they so considerate?

Because, the driver will want to leave as soon as the ride is over.

 

Regards,

Saurav


Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

 

 

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 3:29 PM Cauvery Krishna mailto:cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I generally ask the driver to drop me till the gate or till the reception. 

 

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024, 13:35 Aman Preet Singh, mailto:aps32...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Though I have not use this, but I can suggest you an idea. Whenever you travel 
with Ola or Uber, during that, you can talk to the driver and fix him as your 
daily rider, then he will knew that from where he have to pick up you and where 
to drop daily. After that, you can book the ride and call him and tell that I 
have booked a ride, then he will self take your ride and will come to your 
location. You may use this daily. But I am not sure this idea will work or not, 
I suggested you as I think. If this idea works, you may commute with Ola and 
Uber daily independently. Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On 24 Apr 2024, at 11:15 AM, Saurav Hegde mailto:saurav0...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello to the group,

I am in college, till now I have had a fixed rickshaw driver pick and drop me.

However, I am considering Uber as a mode of transport to commute on a daily 
basis.

Can someone guide me how to commute independently using Uber or Ola and what to 
do when going to a new place?

For example, what is the approach when you reach that location using google 
maps.

We won't know where exactly the rikshaw driver has stopped the rickshaw and 
where am I supposed to go after getting down from the auto.

Add to that, there will be god knows how many and what obstacles.

Polls, tree branches, trash cans and our favourite street dogs.

Please someone reach out and help me by sharing your experience.

 

Regards,

Saurav

Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune

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RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Priti,

It is Insert T not Control T.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2024 1:39 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Control plus T is not saying the name of the brouzer. Please help?

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

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E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

Website : www.silver-linings.org  

Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: 24 April 2024 07:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hello,

 

You must have found the list of running applications in task manager. Just 
press application key on an item and arrow down to the end task option. If you 
activate it by pressing enter, the application will be closed.

 

As regards closing a tab on a browser, ctrl+f4 should work.

 

Why can't you follow the name of the browser? Insert+t always announces the 
name of the browser after the title of the page?

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

- Original Message - 

From: Preeti Monga   

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   

Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 10:56 AM

Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Nothing is working! How do I know what brouzer I am using for the same please 
help? Also task manager also does not show end programme! What am I doing 
wrong? I am using windows 11 and jaws 23

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

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E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

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POSH.

 

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Aparna Sachdev
Sent: 22 April 2024 12:43
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hi
What browser are you on? Control + W or control + f4 should help. Also, I 
notice its tabs you want to close, not the entire browser window, in which case 
alt + f4 won't help - it'll close the entire browser window, all tabs at once. 
Best,
Aparna



On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 12:17 PM Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

Have done both but cant close the tabb with anything what should I do? Please 
do help

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

  

Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!

 

 

Mobile : 91 9871701646

E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org 
 

Website : www.silver-linings.org  

Our Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, 
POSH.

 

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
] On Behalf Of Ragib Nadim
Sent: 21 April 2024 18:59
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

Hi Madam plz press window plus T for task bar or alt ctrl del for task manager.

 

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024, 16:36 Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

How do I open task bar?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Apr 21, 2024, at 11:34 AM, Ragib Nadim mailto:ragibnadi...@gmail.com> > wrote:



madam open task bar and close 

RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief Manager for the Union Access Project.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Rahul,

I am humbled that you specifically went through each person’s congratulatory 
message and acknowledged them each in turn.

I have never met you, but I observe qualities in you that make a true leader in 
deed. The bank has done well in empowering one who truly cares for others. This 
is incredible. May your successes continue to benefit you personally along with 
all you serve, and may at the end of your life on earth, you be gifted in the 
next in ways that will leave you in total disbelief with happiness.

 

Warm regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2024 9:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Dear List,

I wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for the personal 
phone calls and heartfelt congratulations I received, both on our mailing list 
and directly, regarding my recent appointment as Chief Manager for the Union 
Access Project at Union bank of India.

To Harish sir: Your warm greetings and wishes mean a lot to me. Thank you for 
always being there whenever we need your guidance and support.

To the Radio Udaan Team: Your recognition is truly motivating. I look forward 
to possible collaborations and your continued support in our journey of 
inclusive banking.

To Ajay Arora: Your recognition of my dedication is truly appreciated. Thank 
you for your encouragement.

To Sushmeetha Ma’am: Your heartfelt congratulations mean a lot to me. Thank you 
for your encouragement, and I look forward to working with you in one of the 
areas that we initiated, which is still in progress.

To Asif: Your acknowledgment of my hard work is deeply appreciated. Thank you 
for your warm wishes.

To Mr. Paul: Your congratulations and support mean a lot to me. I extend my 
heartfelt wishes to you on your elevation and wish you good luck in your new 
role. 

To Yamuna Jivana Dasa and Muhammad Mishbahul: I am grateful for your warm 
congratulations and support. Thank you for your kind words.

To Sourabh: I appreciate your curiosity and look forward to discussing 
accessibility programs with you soon. Thank you for your interest.

To Sona Suresh: Your congratulations and kind words are inspiring. Thank you 
for your support.

To Khandu Bhandare: Your heartfelt congratulations and kind words are deeply 
appreciated. Having your support and encouragement means a great deal to me. 
It's been a pleasure collaborating with you in the past, and I thoroughly 
enjoyed working with you. Your efforts in empowerment through training programs 
are commendable. Through more than 70 training programs, you have empowered 
thousands of bank employees, and your dedication to this cause is truly 
inspiring. 

A special note of appreciation goes to Prashant Naik for not only sharing this 
news with our mailing list but also for his continuous guidance and support 
throughout our journey of making banking inclusive and convenient for everyone.

As I step into this new role, I am filled with excitement and a strong sense of 
purpose. I look forward to continuing our collaborative efforts to create 
positive change and ensure inclusivity in banking services. I am grateful to 
have such an incredible network of individuals cheering me on.

Thank you all once again, and please pardon me if I may have missed any names 
in my expressions of gratitude.

 

 

 

With regards

Rahul Gambhir

Mobile: 989133

Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com <mailto:rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com> 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Khandu Bhandare
Sent: Tuesday, 23 April 2024 17:40
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Dear Rahul,

 

I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to extend my 
heartfelt congratulations on your recent elevation to the position of Chief 
Manager at CM Union Access. This is truly a remarkable achievement and a 
testament to your dedication, hard work, and exemplary leadership skills.

 

Having known you since 2017, I have witnessed firsthand your unwavering 
commitment to the betterment of persons with disabilities. Your passion for 
creating a more inclusive environment and your tireless efforts in advocating 
for their rights have always been inspiring. Your cool, calm demeanor coupled 
with your strong work ethic has undoubtedly contributed to your success and 
earned you the respect of your peers and colleagues.

 

Your promotion to Chief Manager is not only well-deserved but also a testament 
to your capabilities and the confidence that your 

RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Pranav,

That’s nice to know. It always gives me a good feeling when I see these things. 
Perhaps sentimental on my part, but hey it is what it is.

 

Regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 3:11 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is 
not off-topic for the blind!!

 

Hi Yamuna Jivana dasa,

 

I have found Braille on some handwashing liquid soap as well.

 

Pranav

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RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Preeti

When closing a document window of an application containing multiple instances, 
like the browser with multiple tabs, you might try pressing Control F4 if not 
also try Alt W or Control W in some programs. Your best bet is Control F4. 
Often it will lose focus so that you will need to press Alt Tab to get back to 
the Application, in this case your browser, where you will see then next opened 
browser tab. Another hint is you can press Control Tab to cycle between opened 
tabs.

Give me a call if you’re stuck. We had a great discussion last time, may be now 
I might have the honour of helping you this time.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 12:15 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

I have opened the task bar as you said but it says linkedin running and press 
space. I do that and it goes to the linkedin and so how do I close all running 
tabs?

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ragib Nadim
Sent: 21 April 2024 11:34
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Need help in closing internet tabs with windows 11 and Jaws 23

 

madam open task bar and close all the tabs.

 

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 13:47 Preeti Monga mailto:preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> > wrote:

Hi friends I am stuck again. Thank you for helping me with the volume!

I can open tabs on the net just like before like linkedin, blog etc.

But these do not close with the alt f4.

What should I do

Warmly

Preeti

 

Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer

 

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RE: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief Manager for the Union Access Project.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Always wonderful to hear such news. Congratulations and may we see more of this 
across the employment of talented and passionate people with disabilities in 
the workplace.

Warm regards

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of harish kotian
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Prashant Naik 
Subject: Re: [AI] Congratulations to Rahul Gambhir on his appointment as Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project.

 

Hi

A well deserved promotion.

My warm greetings and wishes to move still higher

Harish

 

On 4/21/2024 2:51 PM, Prashant Naik wrote:

Dear List 

 

I am delighted to inform you that Rahul Gambhir has been appointed as the Chief 
Manager for the Union Access Project at Union Bank of India, effective from 
22nd April 2024.  The Union Access project is dedicated to implementing digital 
accessibility in the bank.  This appointment is a testament to his exceptional 
qualities and unwavering passion for inclusivity. His dedication to 
accessibility aligns perfectly with the bank's commitment to providing 
accessible banking services to all. His leadership will undoubtedly enable to 
take significant strides towards achieving accessibility maturity goals.
Heartfelt congratulations Rahul on this well-deserved appointment.

 

Thanks & Regards 

Prashant Naik

 

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RE: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

I fully agree with these sentiments. Just wanted to support and echo Ravi 
Paul’s view.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Ravi Paul
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2024 11:29 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Hey there,

I'm sure this news is appreciated by those who use this application. Who knows, 
I might consider installing the app and making use of it myself. However, just 
a friendly suggestion. I noted you have obviously made use of Chat GPT or some 
such tool to draft your mail. We know how useful these tools are so I'll not 
say anything on that. I would merely urge you to consider editing out stuff 
that doesn't add to what we already know, or is not of any benefit to read, 
such as:

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services. The enhanced 
accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to access the 
application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing their 
overall user experience. We believe that technology should be inclusive and 
empower everyone, regardless of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's 
dedication to creating an accessible platform for all its users. We encourage 
visually impaired community members to update their Airtel application and 
explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is essential, and we 
welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further improve 
accessibility. 

I just think it unnecessarily adds to the length of the message without adding 
any substance to it. I really hope all that make use of these tool will take 
this appeal in the right spirit and implement this suggestion. It's your choice 
to use it by all means, but just consider editing out parts that don't add 
anything to what we already know.

 

On 14-04-2024 10:01, irfan mir wrote:Regards, Ravi

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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[AI] A pleasant surprise: It's not just shower gel, and no this is not off-topic for the blind!!

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

 

A few weeks back, my wife bought some shower gel on Amazon. Seemed like an 
ordinary event and I thought nothing of it.

When the package arrived, my eldest son excitedly brought it to me. “Baba! 
Baba! Come check this out” he exclaimed as he put the bottle into my hands.

Not thinking much of it I asked “What is this?” without much examination of the 
bottle. “sShower gel” he said, still excited. “Feel the bottle”.

Somehow I still didn’t catch on, as I fingered lamely around the bottle’s 
edges. “Ok Nice”, I said. “Go pack this away now”.

“No! Feel the face of the bottle. Feel properly.” He insisted. I now knew 
something was up so with more alertness I carefully examined the face of the 
bottle.

Before I could even figure it out he exclaimed “Braille!” And he was right. Not 
just that, but both the front face and on the rear face had a whole lot of 
braille.

On the front face across the short side was written in short single lines as 
follows:

Fiama

Shower

Gel

 

On the opposite face, this time along the length of the bottle was written, 
again in beautiful braille letters along the length of the bottle this time:

Patchouli

And macadamia

 

It was uncontracted, no capitalization of letters, the dots felt somewhat faded 
on the plastic label, but still it was a pleasant surprise indeed. Coming to 
India I wasn’t sure I would ever see beautiful braille again, here in the 
village of Vrindavana.

 

Just for this fact I would like to keep buying this product, to simply say 
thank you for remembering us on the fringes of society, while most others see 
us as nothing more than disabled people that might at least be able to sing for 
some handout. We now bought 4 bottles in total for the moment, and every 
morning I can’t help running my fingers over the braille when I take some out 
to shower my body. It just feels so warmly familiar.

 

Just wanted to share this small yet heart-warming story of my own personal 
experience.

 

With kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Reading PDF Tables with Screen-reader virtual cursor

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

For years now I’ve noticed that reading PDF tables is a huge problem. While 
navigating inside a table, if let’s say the column headers is the top row, then 
it reads those correctly if we move from cell to cell with Control, Alt, Arrows.

But if we go down to the second row, where the actual data for the table 
begins, then let’s say we are in the second row, first column on the left. The 
screen-reader will read all the cells down that column as if it was all part of 
the first left cell being read. This makes understanding the table data 
impossible relative to the rows and columns to which the cell contents belong.

 

I’m not sure about those of you using NVDA in Browse mode, but even up until 
Jaws 2024 this problem hasn’t gone away while reading with Virtual PC Cursor.

 

Any thoughts on this will beappreciated.

Have a great day.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 12:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Namaskar!

 

Yes, the app is behaving well now. 90% or less, I won't comment, but out of 4 
tabs the App is having, the one "manage" is working really good now. the other 
3, namely "Pay", "Shop" and "Help" still need improvements with screen reader 
access. I won't use big words like "Dedication", "commitment" etc because the 
App was not that crap about 3 years back, it was usable then. Why Airtel made 
App functionality like nightmare in first place? And it's because of us many 
people's  constant efforts through various channels that Airtel felt to take 
this step. It took about 3 years for this realization. Though, step is taken 
towards desirable direction, we should wait and see for some time before making 
any such asumption like dedication for inclusivity for all, and so on and so 
forth.

 

Vande Mataram

 

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From: irfan mir <mailto:mirirfan1...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:01 AM

Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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RE: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Well just to clarify, my show of gratitude lies really with the folks here at 
Access India, for putting pressure on Airtel to fix what they broke, not to 
Airtel themselves.

Clearly there are some of you here who are really empowered to effect positive 
change, and for that we are all surely grateful.

 

Kind regards

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandesh
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 12:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Namaskar!

 

Yes, the app is behaving well now. 90% or less, I won't comment, but out of 4 
tabs the App is having, the one "manage" is working really good now. the other 
3, namely "Pay", "Shop" and "Help" still need improvements with screen reader 
access. I won't use big words like "Dedication", "commitment" etc because the 
App was not that crap about 3 years back, it was usable then. Why Airtel made 
App functionality like nightmare in first place? And it's because of us many 
people's  constant efforts through various channels that Airtel felt to take 
this step. It took about 3 years for this realization. Though, step is taken 
towards desirable direction, we should wait and see for some time before making 
any such asumption like dedication for inclusivity for all, and so on and so 
forth.

 

Vande Mataram

 

- Original Message - 

From: irfan mir <mailto:mirirfan1...@gmail.com>  

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  

Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:01 AM

Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians, 

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users. 

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
application and explore the improved accessibility features. Your feedback is 
essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

Together, let's celebrate steps towards a more inclusive digital world. Best 
regards

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RE: [AI] Following Crypto and other voletile investment charts

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

If there is anyone here investing or trading into Crypto or other investment 
portfolios, how do you follow the markets and know when to buy or sell stocks 
or currency Etc.? Can our screen-readers help us here or do you use sighted 
help?

It would be nice to find out that we might have some sort of financial 
independence with making sound investment and trading decisions.

I am happy to discuss by phone or off-line if necessary also.

 

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of Sourabh Yadav
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2024 10:50 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] YOUTUBE link of Badalta Daur: Financial Independence for 
People with Disabilities

 

This is a very important topic for all the VIP community and otherwise as well.

Great work Radio Udaan team! 

 

On Mon, 15 Apr 2024, 20:21 Radio Udaan, mailto:radioud...@gmail.com> > wrote:

YOUTUBE link of Badalta Daur: Financial Independence for People with 
Disabilities
https://youtu.be/KTKJcPZT4WY

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RE: [AI] Confirming! Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for screen reader Users

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Excellent! Bravo! Seems you’re right! I just opened the app and I see it no 
longer shows the rubbish code to Talkback as I demonstrated from the past. Now 
we’re seeing actual meaningful links, tabs Etc.

I need to explore further but just saw this minutes ago and wanted to confirm 
the excitement. More when I play with it further.

Thanks again everyone who were talented in various ways to get involved.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of irfan mir
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 10:02 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Airtel Application Enhancements - Improved Accessibility for 
screen reader Users

 

Dear access Indians,

I am writing to share some exciting news that will positively impact our 
community. The Airtel application has recently undergone significant updates, 
making it almost 90% accessible on Android phones for screen reader users.

 

This improvement is a significant step towards inclusivity and ensures that 
more people can comfortably navigate and use the Airtel application with screen 
readers. It demonstrates Airtel's commitment to accessibility and providing an 
equal opportunity for everyone to access their services.

 

The enhanced accessibility features will allow visually impaired users to 
access the application's features more efficiently and independently, enhancing 
their overall user experience.

 

We believe that technology should be inclusive and empower everyone, regardless 
of their abilities. This update reflects Airtel's dedication to creating an 
accessible platform for all its users.

 

We encourage visually impaired community members to update their Airtel 
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essential, and we welcome any suggestions or comments you may have to further 
improve accessibility.

 

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regards

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RE: [AI] Fwd: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Thanks for this effort. Kindly note my responses having submitted the form. 
Thank you very much. I’ll help wherever I can.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo is my legal name registered on form).

 

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Behalf Of yatin panchal
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2024 7:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Fwd: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp

 

 

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Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 7:40 PM
Subject: Invitation to Participate in Accessibility Study on WhatsApp
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mailto:nandish2004hirem...@gmail.com> >, kota 
prabhu mailto:kota.pra...@gmail.com> >, 
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RE: [AI] Take advantage of Our Free Online Event on PDF Remediation Software.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Ouch this will start at 10:30 PM Indian time and the last session starts at 1 
AM tomorrow morning for us!

Anyone attending here? I’m always interested around the problems we face with 
PDF files, particularly dealing with PDF tables which tend to read a whole row 
or column when moving to a single table cell in browse mode/Virtual cursor. 
Technically, I’ve never understood why they have not managed to fix this over 
many years, even while HTML content works fine in tables.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Nikhil Kukde
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 12:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Take advantage of Our Free Online Event on PDF Remediation 
Software.

 

Hello All.

 

Join us tomorrow, Tuesday, April 9th, at 1 PM ET, for our free online event on 
PDF Remediation Software.

 

The event includes four informative presentations on PDF Remediation Software 
and allows you to interact with several companies in the virtual Expo Hall.

 

This is your opportunity to explore several different aspects of PDF 
remediation software and several platforms, plus meet with several providers, 
in one place. You don't want to miss it!

 

Event Agenda:

 

1 PM ET: PDF Remediation Software Discussion featuring Mark Shapiro, Casey 
Naiduk, Doug Koppenhofer, Jozef Baranec, and Moise Akbaraly

1:30 PM ET: Document Remediation the Easy Way presented by Aimee Ubbink and 
Ligia Mora of Crawford Technologies

2:00 PM ET: Trillions PDFs to Make Accessible presented by PDFix

2:30 PM ET: PDF Remediation at Scale: Debunking Myths and Unveiling Realities 
presented by Moise Akbaraly of DocAxess

 

Register Now

 

https://www.accessibility.com/event/2024/pdf-remediation-software

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RE: [AI] difference between app installed and browsing

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Bhawani,

Many platforms we use these days have both a Web interface separately and a 
dedicated app separately.
This is true for Youtube also. You can access Youtube using the Web browser at 
http://www.youtube.com or you could download their dedicated App which gets 
installed into your computer's operating system and has a desktop shortcut and 
program manager icons like other apps do. There is usually also phone installer 
Apps for the phones also for the platform.
The developer may employ different technologies which will also mean different 
levels of accessibility in each case, even for the same platform.
Most of the time the Web-based interface is the best because it uses HTML which 
our screen-readers are very compatible with. Sometimes the Apps provide more 
functionality to access extended services provided by the business concerned, 
but sometimes the Apps themselves may lack accessibility so it's a trade-off 
between functionality and accessibility. So sometimes we may want to use the 
Web-based interface for some things, sometimes the phone App for other things 
and the computer App (Windows in most cases) for still other things related to 
the business offerings.
Usually a combination like this is what's necessary for us to come close to 
sighted people's access of the full offerings.
One last point on this I should cover is the desktop shortcuts you mentioned:
It is possible to have a Desktop shortcut for the App itself, but also for the 
Web-Link to the web-page of the platform which will open from your default 
browser. Usually when you install the App the shortcut will refer to the App 
itself, but in some cases a shortcut to the Website can be placed on the 
desktop, and also you can manually create a shortcut yourself on the desktop 
that points to the Website address to be opened by your default Web browser.
I hope I did not confuse you.
If you need further clarification I'm happy to talk and perhaps explain better. 
Whatsapp: +27 82 291 6081.

Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2024 8:12 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] difference between app installed and browsing

Dear List and technical experts.


What is the difference between opening the web page through google chroam and 
installed the web page as an application in windows desktop? 
for example, I opened youtube with chroam browser, it prompted me to install 
the page as application and i did it. now there is a shortcut "youtube" on my 
desktop and also in installed application list. I did the same for IRCTC and 
mobikwik web page. now what is the difference between twos. if there is no 
difference, then why google croam prompt to install it as application.


regards,


Bhawani


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RE: [AI] 01 Lite by Open Interpreter is a 100% open-source personal AI assistant

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Wow this is pretty promising.
If you could teach it an interface it could run inaccessible apps for us also 
it seems.
We might need sighted help to teach the AI the interface of an inaccessible 
App, but then perhaps later we could share the learned model of the app to 
another person using the same AI to use, much like we would share a Jaws Script 
source file with another Jaws user or an NVDA Add-on for accessing a n App, 
only this time it would have learnt about the interface using advanced learning 
by verbal instruction alone.

But being the skeptic as I am (don't blame me, I'm growing older now), I 
believe we may still be a few years away from that part.
Come on! Prove me wrong, kiddos!

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From: harish kotian [mailto:har...@accessindia.org.in] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 10:00 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] 01 Lite by Open Interpreter is a 100% open-source personal AI 
assistant

All

I just watched this youtube video and and mind is super excited with all this 
possibilities this opens up for us. From day 1 when I saw the possibilities 
what AI can do value addition to us, this is more than one would expect from 
AI. I am reminded by the popular bollywood dialogue 'this is just the trailler, 
picture baki hain'.

   So head over to this link.

https://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001tK-rdCNIufDplsY9gesabX1Mt3kpjYQ1zu61eN1_-fILIboohYztebz67b8RRlxKfVNBwXgRiNtk5chD4sUTvSCCGLAr9o-ifPkQ8CQtpPZ7wUqprTvIb53MbHu0H1j6GanjijZu52Ne-mUjpXRYRO6FwoEZcIo6fgSJ_MT79qEHDKApdCJAmlZAbTZyX3xqx1hrjAvSF8rQozyToTpttu24roBWYAIV2GFIrFPN9aiSkMPUeTW-yvEiFEiOCRtvdZntp3zfU_Y9uKp6CspJcjIX7bAJMMRDFnaaHJgfKanuqChrd7dxYg===dcuiLjZdjFzsv60th8ASHtmbQ9iGD-sweCQjCaRLce8A8Q6GlvPDtw===nTrfXXFxdmXOd3tW5v3rQKRqisBK95S0j0PQO5tDmhli0vocS7_i-A==

Harish.


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RE: [AI] UNINSTALLING A PROGRAM WINDOWS 10

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Sometimes the program might include an Uninstall feature from the Start - All 
Programs menu.
Press Windows key from the desktop, then press up arrow to All Programs, and it 
might appear in the most recent list because it was installed not long ago. It 
might appear inside a folder with the software name, and in there there could 
be an Uninstall routine.
But may be not, let's hope for the best.

YJd

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Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 8:20 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] UNINSTALLING A PROGRAM WINDOWS 10

Dear list,


How to uninstall a program which i have installed from microsoft store in 
windows 10? I accidently install YTD youtube downloader and can not find this 
app in control pannel>programs feature to uninstall it.


Bhawani


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RE: [AI] Calling mac users: Has anyone tried typeahead ai

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
The videos don't seem to make sense from a screen-reader user perspective. All 
I can hear is the TTS saying open E-mail, click attach, Etc. Not sure who is 
meant to be giving the instruction and who is following the instruction or what 
was the outcome. Not very meaningful at least from the demo sample videos.
Still, others who have tried using it might have more positive to say.

YJd

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Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:05 PM
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Subject: [AI] Calling mac users: Has anyone tried typeahead ai

Hi all,

Has anyone tried the new screen reader for the mac at https://www.typeahead.ai/

Pranav

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[AI] Safely Remove Hardware Notifications

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

Has anyone had any success with hearing the status of the Safely Remove
Hardware notification after trying to eject a hard drive?

Under Windows 7 I used to hear something like "It is now safe to remove the
device" or "Device is in use" Etc. Not exactly those words but something
very similar. But in Windows 10 I just hear a short musical jingle but not
sure what was the message.

When I check the system notifications with Jaws (Insert Space bar followed
by N), other notifications from the past show up but nothing from the safely
remove hardware wizard.

Any thoughts will be welcome.

By the way, Windows 11 is trash! You can't even create a shortcut key for an
App without actually putting it on the Desktop, which seems more clunky than
it was in Windows 10!

And I still love Windows 7 because, well, most things just work nicely for
music production people like me.

 

Anyway there I go rambling again! Please remember why I wrote this mail in
the first place in case you have some thoughts! 

 

Kind regards to all.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Cool features of Opera GX browser

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

Anyone experimented with the Opera GX browser?

Apparently it’s nice for a few reasons such as:

1.   Sounds can be assigned to keyboard events including typing, page 
loading complete and other things;

2.   Apps like Whatsapp are integrated into the sidebar and so you can set 
up shortcuts to open the App easily;

3.   There’s a load of configurability for keyboard shortcuts within the 
brogram.

4.   You can configure the browser to assign and play audio and video using 
your favourite audio video player externally (still trying to find out if this 
is true), which would mean then you could use your preferred audio/video player 
that you find accessible.

 

All of the above is according to my sighted sons, and they are still young boys 
of 14 and 15 years so they could be just over-enthusiastic as kids might 
sometimes be. But I am eager to find out how accessible it really is with 
screen-readers. I found that it does well with displaying the virtual cursor 
(Browse mode for NVDA users), and so you can effectively navigate web pages the 
usual way we do.

 

Beyond this I am only newly experimenting. Anyone using Opera GX please contact 
me if you have any tips, and then I’ll also share what I am learning.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shek Mohammad Ali
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 4:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi update to the latest build which got rolled out couple of weeks back.

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

  _  

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > on 
behalf of Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 1:39:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: RE: [AI] Jaws new fitures 

 

Hi,

Using Jaws 2024 under Options | Early Adopter Programs, the only App that 
appears for me is MathCAT. I do not see Picture Smart nor any other program 
here.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

YJd

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Tirupati Gaikwad
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi friends this is tirupati gaikwad here.Picture Smart AI in JAWS
, While navigating the digital landscape, you might encounter photos, charts, 
and other visual elements without an alternative description. This can make it 
challenging to understand the information provided by the visual content. The 
JAWS Picture Smart feature, introduced in 2019, allows you to analyze a photo 
using a layered keystroke. A description of the image is displayed in the JAWS 
Results Viewer window. For example, after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P to 
activate the Picture Smart layer, you could press F to describe the currently 
selected image in File Explorer, or C to describe a photo from a social media 
website like Facebook.
, Picture Smart AI is a revolutionary update to the traditional Picture Smart 
feature. By integrating with the latest artificial intelligence (AI) technology 
from services like Chat GPT from Open AI and Gemini from Google, you will now 
experience a whole new level of accessibility to graphical information. While 
you access Picture Smart as you have in the past, you will be amazed by the 
depth and richness of the visual descriptions Picture Smart AI now offers.
, Picture Smart AI is currently available as an Early Adopter Program feature.  
, To enable Picture Smart AI:
, 1. Press ALT+O in the JAWS program window to access the JAWS Options menu. 
Press E to select Early Adopter Program.
, 2. Press the TAB key to navigate to Picture Smart with Generative AI, and 
press SPACEBAR to select the checkbox to enable this feature. Press the TAB key 
to navigate to OK and press ENTER, then restart the software to begin using 
Picture Smart AI thanks for reading this article +91 9975732046

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RE: [AI] Jaws new fitures

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Using Jaws 2024 under Options | Early Adopter Programs, the only App that 
appears for me is MathCAT. I do not see Picture Smart nor any other program 
here.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Tirupati Gaikwad
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Jaws new fitures

 

Hi friends this is tirupati gaikwad here.Picture Smart AI in JAWS
, While navigating the digital landscape, you might encounter photos, charts, 
and other visual elements without an alternative description. This can make it 
challenging to understand the information provided by the visual content. The 
JAWS Picture Smart feature, introduced in 2019, allows you to analyze a photo 
using a layered keystroke. A description of the image is displayed in the JAWS 
Results Viewer window. For example, after pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P to 
activate the Picture Smart layer, you could press F to describe the currently 
selected image in File Explorer, or C to describe a photo from a social media 
website like Facebook.
, Picture Smart AI is a revolutionary update to the traditional Picture Smart 
feature. By integrating with the latest artificial intelligence (AI) technology 
from services like Chat GPT from Open AI and Gemini from Google, you will now 
experience a whole new level of accessibility to graphical information. While 
you access Picture Smart as you have in the past, you will be amazed by the 
depth and richness of the visual descriptions Picture Smart AI now offers.
, Picture Smart AI is currently available as an Early Adopter Program feature.  
, To enable Picture Smart AI:
, 1. Press ALT+O in the JAWS program window to access the JAWS Options menu. 
Press E to select Early Adopter Program.
, 2. Press the TAB key to navigate to Picture Smart with Generative AI, and 
press SPACEBAR to select the checkbox to enable this feature. Press the TAB key 
to navigate to OK and press ENTER, then restart the software to begin using 
Picture Smart AI thanks for reading this article +91 9975732046

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RE: [AI] hypothetical query on the Overseas citizenship card

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

As far as I understand it, if you do not ever intend to travel for the rest of 
your life using transport that requires a passport, such as flights Etc, then 
you don’t need to renew your foreign passport.

But you must keep your passport associated with your OCI even if that passport 
expires. This will be needed for updating of Aadhaar or PAN card details. You 
must also keep the passport on which you travelled to India for the last time 
because it contains your stamp of entry. This may or may not be the same 
passport associated with your OCI, but it must be kept all the same.

 

However, if your country of origin has an embassy or high commission office in 
India, you can apply to renew your foreign passport there if you want to. You 
will not have to go home to your birth country for that.

I think if you have stayed in India for 15 years without leaving then you can 
apply for Indian citizenship, but that means you have to renounce your birth 
citizenship and therefore renounce any disability grant or old-age pension from 
birth country. You probably get much more disability and old-age outside India 
than you would get as an Indian citizen, but may be someone can prove me wrong. 
That would be a pleasant surprise!

 

You asked about accessibility of the website, personally I found the OCI 
website very reasonably accessible with Jaws. The only problem is they ask for 
a image captcha which is not accessible. If you get sighted help past that you 
should manage quite well.

https://ociservices.gov.in/capchaAction

I successfully applied for OCI for myself, my wife and my two sons with very 
little sighted help back in South Africa.

 

I’m not an expert but someone else here may have corrections. I hope everything 
I have said thus far proves useful to you.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of sagar Verma
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 11:57 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] hypothetical query on the Overseas citizenship card

 

Greetings. I got the following query. As you all know, the OCI aka the Overseas 
Citizenship Card has indefinite living rights. It is a multi-purpose lifelong 
visa which acts as a PR green card which is a resident visa for India for 
people of person of Indian origins or Indian descent. My hypothetical query is, 
is this an obligation to renew the passport associated with the Overseas 
Citizenship Card once it expires when we are residing in India given it is a 
indefinite lifelong permanent visa to reside in India forever? What if we keep 
living in India, don't have any intent to travel internationally? Second, has 
anyone used passport miscellaneous to update the passport for the Overseas 
Citizenship Card? It seems the website is still inaccessible. Waiting for the 
prompt response from those individuals who are having the OCI card and residing 
in India and use screen reading softwares.

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[AI] Alex Rider audio books

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear friends,

Anyone know where we can get the audio book of Alex Rider, all of the series
to listen to?

Thanks.

 

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[AI] Accessible compression of software audio to sound card output

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I often listen to audio streamed via Chrome browser that varies severely in
dynamics, from a lecture to sudden hyped spontaneous singing. At one moment
the audio is so soft you have to turn up the speaker volume, and at other
times it comes crashing in placing the speakers in danger from the severe
distortion.

Does anyone know of a software that is accessible to us, which is capable of
catching the audio from the browser or any software of our choice first,
compressing that audio according to our compression settings, and only then
routing that audio to the sound card?

I found something called Voicemeeter Banana but according to Bard it is not
very accessible to screen-readers.

 

Any thoughts on this will be very much appreciated. Thanks.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

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RE: [AI] My devotional cover song, please listen and let me know yours valuable feedback

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Nice work! I’m listening to it now! Enjoyed how you used the slight delay 
between the two channels of your vocals for a stereo effect.

Tell us more. Did you produce the musical arrangement or not? Did you mix your 
own vocals into the cover music and if so what software did you use to master 
(EQ and compress vocals) to fit with the music?

 

Congrats again. We must talk!

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Omkar Pawaskar
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 5:35 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] My devotional cover song, please listen and let me know yours 
valuable feedback

 

Mere Baba - Mahashivratri Special Cover by Omkar Pawaskar | Edited by Hasan Ali 
– 

 

https://youtu.be/T-0nQo6nUVo?si=chCqgaD2L8G4VM7q

 

 

Use Earphones for studio quality experience 

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RE: [AI] Highlight in adobe acrobat reader

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

My experience with PDF files is that they are a pain to deal with!

In tables, navigating from cell to cell tends to read across a whole row or 
column for single cells. It makes understanding the table data very difficult.

With Jaws you can OCR it from the Windows Explorer and this tends to make the 
document a little better to navigate, but now you might have to deal with OCR 
errors instead.

 

Someone might have a better set of experiences and perhaps some useful tips 
which I would also appreciate.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of nehal jain
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Highlight in adobe acrobat reader

 

Dear  Access indians,

 

Trust you all are doing great!

 

 

Could you please help me with this. I am wanting to highlight text  in adobe 
Acrobat reader.

 

Also,  any guidance material for working  in adobe acrobat reader with screen 
reader. Would be helpful.

 

Thanks and best regards

Nehal Jain

 

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RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Can you share more about this device? If you paid 20,000 Rupees it must be 
worth something to you. I'm just wondering what can you do with this that you 
can't do on a software braille keyboard. Or is it just that you like the 
physical buttons and that's all it's about? Can you share your thoughts?

Thanks.
Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of amritpal singh
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 2:14 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

Sorry to say, it hasn't arrived yet. When asked about delay, they just 
explained that it is stuck on border. They sent me two forms to fill and send 
them back. I've done that and now, they say, it would arrive within a week. The 
price I paid them is Rs.20,000,. It includes Rs.2000 for packing and postage.

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2024 5:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

Could you pls share the price you paid?
Thanks

On 3/3/24, amritpal singh  wrote:
> yes, I ordered directly from their website. Sorry to say, it hasn't 
> arrived yet although it is revolving around my area for the last 3 
> days. I'm waiting for it eagerly.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Sagar Verma
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 8:04 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, sir! I’m interested to know if you ordered directly from the website.
> I’ve communicated with their team about testing, but unfortunately, 
> they haven’t responded. The notable aspect of this keyboard is that it 
> operates on the device, eliminating delays seen in other braille 
> displays like Orbit or Rita. It functions as a Bluetooth keyboard. 
> Could you share the price you paid?
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Sagar
> WhatsApp: +61415104029
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> On 29 Feb 2024, at 19:58, amritpal singh  wrote:
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> I have ordered it a few days ago and I’m expecting it tomorrow. Only 
> then, I’ll be able to review it.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of mukesh jain
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 2:36 PM
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> Subject: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard
>
>
>
> hello Access Indians,
>
> How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list 
> from India  using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?
>
>
> This keyboard looks promising.
>
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
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>
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[AI] My Computer Literacy course book in Microsoft Word format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear friends,
Huge appologies, and thanks to Rajpal for pointing this out, that I had 
accidentally uploaded the same MP3 Zip of the book as the Word format zip. Not 
sure what I was doing there, huge mess, but now fixed.
Please download the correct file from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/u42pucesm9lh1945y8bdz/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=a4twnxtvigu4hmnynhyulm455=0
And please let me know if this link works this time. I must have done it in my 
sleep the last time!

Thanks.

YJd

-Original Message-
From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa [mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 4:52 PM
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in' 
Subject: RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Hi all,
Here is my book in Microsoft Word format. Each chapter is in a separate file, 
and all files are zipped together. You have to unzip it before you can access 
the individual chapters. Get sighted help if you are not comfortable doing this 
yourself. In the lessons you will learn how to do all this.

Download from my Dropbox here in Microsoft Word format.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06c6dev5ts2b3dlm7p4zh/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=atp06htdrlbpgakllgaoehfv0=0

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa


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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:22 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Yes, I too prefer text version to audio.
Thanks and regards.


On 3/2/24, Aravind R  wrote:
> windows screen reader primer is the best tutorial for learning jaws, 
> narrator and NVDA comparitively. its available in bookshare liberary.
> people can export that to mp3 audio files using eloquants voice 
> through balabolka software from pc or through @voicealoudreader 
> android app
>
> On 02/03/2024, Yasir Jan  wrote:
>> Yes friend I am also comfortable with the text material if you could 
>> share please  we shall be thankful to you
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024, 7:02 AM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also convert it using IBM TTS (eloquence voice).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2024 10:14 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
>>> > Hi Mukesh,
>>> > Are you able to do this pro bono?
>>> > Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. 
>>> > If you
>>> would like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing 
>>> is I cannot finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I 
>>> am sure though. The TTS version is not perfect as you will hear from 
>>> the files I've sent so you could try recording them as real human 
>>> voice.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the 
>>> > community
>>> project and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
>>> > Thanks sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
>>> > Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>>> >
>>> > hello,
>>> > i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have 
>>> > been
>>> doing this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization 
>>> called recording club which provides many indian newspapers daily in 
>>> accessible format i.e. in audio format and human recorded formats. i 
>>> am the paprt of the production team. so if you need me to convert 
>>> the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach out to me on my 
>>> mobile
>>> > 7021030307
>>> >
>>> > if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on 
>>> > this
>>> phone number.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
>>> >> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word 
>>> >> format, and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it 
>>> >> using a braille
>>> printer.
>>> >> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I 
>>> >> published the book under the general public license so that the 
>>> >> company could not monopolize my book. So write me privately and 
>>> >> we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly convert 
>>> >

RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,
Here is my book in Microsoft Word format. Each chapter is in a separate file, 
and all files are zipped together. You have to unzip it before you can access 
the individual chapters. Get sighted help if you are not comfortable doing this 
yourself. In the lessons you will learn how to do all this.

Download from my Dropbox here in Microsoft Word format.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/06c6dev5ts2b3dlm7p4zh/CLC-Word-format.zip?rlkey=atp06htdrlbpgakllgaoehfv0=0

Kind regards,Yamuna Jivana Dasa


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Kakarla Nageswaraiah
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2024 11:22 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

Yes, I too prefer text version to audio.
Thanks and regards.


On 3/2/24, Aravind R  wrote:
> windows screen reader primer is the best tutorial for learning jaws, 
> narrator and NVDA comparitively. its available in bookshare liberary.
> people can export that to mp3 audio files using eloquants voice 
> through balabolka software from pc or through @voicealoudreader 
> android app
>
> On 02/03/2024, Yasir Jan  wrote:
>> Yes friend I am also comfortable with the text material if you could 
>> share please  we shall be thankful to you
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024, 7:02 AM BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can also convert it using IBM TTS (eloquence voice).
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/1/2024 10:14 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
>>> > Hi Mukesh,
>>> > Are you able to do this pro bono?
>>> > Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. 
>>> > If you
>>> would like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing 
>>> is I cannot finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I 
>>> am sure though. The TTS version is not perfect as you will hear from 
>>> the files I've sent so you could try recording them as real human 
>>> voice.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the 
>>> > community
>>> project and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
>>> > Thanks sincerely,
>>> >
>>> > Yamuna Jivana dasa
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain
>>> > Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>>> >
>>> > hello,
>>> > i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have 
>>> > been
>>> doing this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization 
>>> called recording club which provides many indian newspapers daily  
>>> in accessible format i.e. in audio format and human recorded 
>>> formats. i am the paprt of the production team. so if you need me to 
>>> convert the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach out to me 
>>> on my mobile
>>> > 7021030307
>>> >
>>> > if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on 
>>> > this
>>> phone number.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
>>> >> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word 
>>> >> format, and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it 
>>> >> using a braille
>>> printer.
>>> >> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I 
>>> >> published the book under the general public license so that the 
>>> >> company could not monopolize my book. So write me privately and 
>>> >> we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly convert 
>>> >> the book from text to audio for people who have never used a 
>>> >> computer before, that will be very nice because then they can 
>>> >> just listen to the audio and follow
>>> along on the computer.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> YJd
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>> >> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>>> >> On Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:58 PM
>>> >> To: accessindia@access

RE: [AI] What do you think?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Rajib,

These are simply idiomatic expressions. They are not maliciously targeted at 
blind people. It is in our best interest not to become paranoid as this will 
only cause us distress without valid cause. We have enough real-world practical 
struggles as blind people in a sighted world. Let’s not add to it.

 

That’s my take.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rajib Das
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 11:53 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] What do you think?

 

Dear all,

I hope this mail finds you well.

I am a blind person. I feel very bad and insulted, when I listen to phrases 
like: (don't blindly believe) and (love is blind).

What do people mean by this phrases?

 

I personally feel that these are very much in correct phrases.

 

Now, I want to know from you all about this types of phrases.

What do you people think about this phrases?

Additionally, if I wrong please correct me.

 

Thank you

Waiting eagerly for your response

Rajib Das

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Mukesh,
Are you able to do this pro bono?
Sounds like you're doing great work out there. That's very nice. If you would 
like to try recording the book that would be great, only thing is I cannot 
finance it. It will prove useful to many blind people I am sure though. The TTS 
version is not perfect as you will hear from the files I've sent so you could 
try recording them as real human voice.

Let me know if you would like to do this as a service to the community project 
and I'll gladly send the relevant materials.
Thanks sincerely,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of mukesh jain
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 10:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

hello,
i can help you out to convert the text in to audio format. i have been doing 
this work since 5 years on regular basis. we have organization called recording 
club which provides many indian newspapers daily  in accessible format i.e. in 
audio format and human recorded formats. i am the paprt of the production team. 
so if you need me to convert the same, i can surely help you out. you can reach 
out to me on my mobile
7021030307

if you prefer to talk to me, may kindly get in touch with me on this phone 
number.


On 2/29/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
> What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word format, 
> and in Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it using a braille 
> printer.
> This was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I published 
> the book under the general public license so that the company could 
> not monopolize my book. So write me privately and we’ll try to 
> arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly convert the book from text 
> to audio for people who have never used a computer before, that will 
> be very nice because then they can just listen to the audio and follow along 
> on the computer.
>
>
>
> YJd
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:58 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>
>
>
> Hi! It’s a great information you shared here. I am also interested in 
> this course, could you please tell me how can I get this entire course from 
> you?
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 29, 2024, at 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi,
>
> I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
> screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio 
> using TTS please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for 
> your friend to use, and no I will not charge any money.
>
>
>
> YJd
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
> Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:26 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.
>
>
>
> sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, 
> that material will be payed.
>
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[AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Friends,I have accidentally provided an incorrect link. See the message again 
below for correct link.

 

 

From: Yamuna Jivana Dasa [mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 8:03 PM
To: 'accessindia@accessindia.org.in' 
Subject: RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

Dear Access India members,

 

I have received many requests yesterday for the computer literacy course 
privately from list members who wrote to me by E-mail. Instead of replying to 
everyone individually, I am sending here publically a link to download an MP3 
version of my book.

 

I am grateful to Bhawani Shankar Verma for suggesting the “Text Allowed” 
software which I used for converting the documents to audio.

Please note that while this recording was created using IVona Text to speech, 
Sally, an American English voice, the quality is not perfectly human like, but 
I believe it is good enough for understanding the content.

 

Click here to download the Zip file from my Dropbox. 
<https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yzmw79tb6nbiuen0a5ekf/Computer-Literacy-Course-for-the-Blind.zip?rlkey=2pm6grfai3xqlqxv10fdl84v1=0>
 

 

 

After downloading the Zip file, you may need help to extract all the MP3 files 
from it, to copy them to some sort of audio player such as a phone, computer or 
MP3 player, so that someone who never used a computer before can listen to the 
course as an audio file and follow along. It will help if you show the student 
how to play and pause, seek back and forwards through the audio file, change to 
the previous and next audio file, Etc to make their learning experience 
interactive.

Also, ensure the student has NVDA or Jaws installed and working and have the 
text-to-speech synthesizer at a comfortable listening speed for the student 
before they get started with this learning program. The course teaches both 
using Jaws and NVDA, and the student can choose the lessons to listen to 
depending on the screen-reader where a selection is available. The title of 
each chapter will tell if the course uses Jaws or NVDA if they are taught 
separately.

If the student will progress to the Microsoft applications like Word and Excel, 
or to the Browsing the Internet section, then ensure those applications are 
also installed on the computer. Browsing is trained using Google Chrome, but 
can also work with Edge and some others.

 

All the best to those wishing to learn via this course.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

text allowed or balabolka application may haelpful to convert text to audio mp3 
format. 

On 2/29/2024 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, that 
material will be payed.

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Access India members,

 

I have received many requests yesterday for the computer literacy course 
privately from list members who wrote to me by E-mail. Instead of replying to 
everyone individually, I am sending here publically a link to download an MP3 
version of my book.

 

I am grateful to Bhawani Shankar Verma for suggesting the “Text Allowed” 
software which I used for converting the documents to audio.

Please note that while this recording was created using IVona Text to speech, 
Sally, an American English voice, the quality is not perfectly human like, but 
I believe it is good enough for understanding the content.

 

Click here to download the Zip file from my Dropbox. 
 

 

After downloading the Zip file, you may need help to extract all the MP3 files 
from it, to copy them to some sort of audio player such as a phone, computer or 
MP3 player, so that someone who never used a computer before can listen to the 
course as an audio file and follow along. It will help if you show the student 
how to play and pause, seek back and forwards through the audio file, change to 
the previous and next audio file, Etc to make their learning experience 
interactive.

Also, ensure the student has NVDA or Jaws installed and working and have the 
text-to-speech synthesizer at a comfortable listening speed for the student 
before they get started with this learning program. The course teaches both 
using Jaws and NVDA, and the student can choose the lessons to listen to 
depending on the screen-reader where a selection is available. The title of 
each chapter will tell if the course uses Jaws or NVDA if they are taught 
separately.

If the student will progress to the Microsoft applications like Word and Excel, 
or to the Browsing the Internet section, then ensure those applications are 
also installed on the computer. Browsing is trained using Google Chrome, but 
can also work with Edge and some others.

 

All the best to those wishing to learn via this course.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

text allowed or balabolka application may haelpful to convert text to audio mp3 
format. 

On 2/29/2024 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, that 
material will be payed.

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

What format do you need? I currently have it in Microsoft Word format, and in 
Duxbury Braille format so that you can print it using a braille printer. This 
was done when I worked at Blind SA in South Africa. I published the book under 
the general public license so that the company could not monopolize my book. So 
write me privately and we’ll try to arrange. If anyone knows how I can quickly 
convert the book from text to audio for people who have never used a computer 
before, that will be very nice because then they can just listen to the audio 
and follow along on the computer.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Aman Preet Singh
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 9:58 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

Hi! It’s a great information you shared here. I am also interested in this 
course, could you please tell me how can I get this entire course from you? 
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 29, 2024, at 9:48 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

 

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RE: [AI] Some audio material for learning basic computer.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

I personally wrote an entire course for beginners to computers with 
screen-reader. If someone knows of a way to convert text to audio using TTS 
please let me know. Then I can convert my entire course for your friend to use, 
and no I will not charge any money.

 

YJd

 

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sirch on youtube. Or, I can help you with recording material. But, that 
material will be payed.

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RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

How does this compare with typing in braille on the soft braille keyboard 
directly on the phone display, such as Talkback Braille keyboard?

 

Thanks

 

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Behalf Of Sagar Verma
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Hello, sir! I’m interested to know if you ordered directly from the website. 
I’ve communicated with their team about testing, but unfortunately, they 
haven’t responded. The notable aspect of this keyboard is that it operates on 
the device, eliminating delays seen in other braille displays like Orbit or 
Rita. It functions as a Bluetooth keyboard. Could you share the price you paid?

 

Kind regards,
Sagar
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On 29 Feb 2024, at 19:58, amritpal singh mailto:amritpa...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I have ordered it a few days ago and I’m expecting it tomorrow. Only then, I’ll 
be able to review it.

 

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Subject: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

 

hello Access Indians, 

How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list from India  
using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?


This keyboard looks promising. 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi PAUL MUDDHA

You wrote:

 

> No No dear you have understood wrongly Yjd.

After 5 lakhs straight away 10% and above 7 lakhs straight away tax applied. >

Ok, so what was meant then by the first tax slab in the case of both old and 
new regimes being free?

Prof Kumar wrote as follows, let’s just take the old regime as an example of 
what I’m asking. He wrote:

 

>> As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. >>

But then he writes just after that:

 

>> Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax. >>

 

So it appears we are talking about to amounts untaxed: the 500,000 untaxed, and 
the 250,000 free first slab. If they do not add up as a collective free portion 
of 750,000 then how does this work?

Let’s say as an example the salary P/A was 1,000,000. Can you demonstrate how 
this would be taxed given the example of the two untaxed portions here?

 

Thanks.

 

Kind regards,

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: 29 February 2024 00:57
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

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Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10% of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.

Content & Product Development Advisor, Continual Engine  

Email: drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com>  

Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864

Cell: +91-9840139849

https://continualengine.com <https://continualengine.com/>  

Transforming Learning Using AI

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:24 PM

RE: [AI] Correction - Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10 Lakhs of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

In other words as per the new regime if we earn only a little more than 83,000 
per month through the year we will start being hit by 25% of any additional 
earnings and no rebates? That’s crazy!

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com 
<mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.

Content & Product Development Advisor, Continual Engine  

Email: drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com>  

Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864

Cell: +91-9840139849

https://continualengine.com <https://continualengine.com/>  

Transforming Learning Using AI

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 6:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

As an individual, or firm or HUF or any org

RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Professor Kumar

Thanks for this feedback.

If I understand correctly, are you saying that as per the new regime the first 
7 lakhs is not taxed, the first slab of 3 lakhs is also not taxed so that the 
first 10 lakhs is untaxed, but after this if one earns more than 10 Lakhs P/A 
then anything beyond that 10 Lakhs will immediately attract 25% tax to begin 
with and this will increase by 2.5% for every 3 Lakhs more earned?

 

Still clarifying: At the old regime the first 5 Lakhs is not taxed, the first 
tax slab of 2.5 lakhs is also not taxed so that the total of 7.5 lakhs of 
income will be untaxed, and thereafter the second tax slab of anything beyond 
this 7.5 Lakhs will be taxed only at 5 % starting, and plus there will be 
rebates and deductions allowed?

 

So it sounds like the new regime starts taking 25% taxes from anything beyond 
10 Lakhs of income without giving rebates, while the old regime takes only 5% 
taxes beyond 7.5 Lakhs, still offering various rebates and deductions, and 
thereafter increments as per the slabs.

 

The main difference here seems to be the whopping 25% tax that immediately hits 
the new regime beyond 10% of one's earnings, not to be 
protected/cooled/tempered by rebates and deductions.

 

Just checking if I'm understanding you correctly.

 

Also, please suggest where can we find this information from the Government, 
and where do we file taxes in India?

 

I am not employed but I depend on income from investments, which I hope to 
compound over the years. Does the same rules apply to me as they do to 
employees?

 

Thanks for all this advice.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of drbsmku...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hello Yamuna,

By default it is set to the new regime. At the start of each financial year, 
you need to inform your accounts section of the company where you are employed 
as to whether you opt the old regime or the new regime.

As per the old regime, there is no tax upt o an income of Rs. 50/-p.a. 
Beyond this amount, tax is applicable as per the following:

Income up to Rs. 25 – no tax.

Rs. 25-50 – tax rate is 5%

Rs. 50-100 – tax at the rate 10%

>Rs. 100 – tax at rate 20%

In case the salary is above Rs. 50 then tax rebate and exemptions can be 
availed under different sections.

 

New regime:

There is no tax for a salary of up to Rs. 70. For salary in excess of Rs. 
70, there are tax levied under different slabs:

No tax up to Rs 30.

Beyond Rs. 30 tax is collected starting from % up to around 25% with an 
increment of 2.5% for each salary range of Rs. 30.

In this new regime, no tax exemption or rebate is applicable.

Regards,

 

 

Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.

Content & Product Development Advisor, Continual Engine  

Email: drbsmku...@gmail.com <mailto:drbsmku...@gmail.com>  

Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864

Cell: +91-9840139849

https://continualengine.com <https://continualengine.com/>  

Transforming Learning Using AI

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 3:24 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 6:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible 
format

 

As an individual, or firm or HUF or any organisation if your income is more 
than Rs.50/- in that case you should file income tax return. income taxx is 
a tax which you have to pay on your income with different stages and slabs. if 
it is less than rs.50/- you need not to worry about it.

Now their are 2 regimes  in income tax. most of the exemptions, rebaits a

RE: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,
Just in case you're not aware, it is now possible to type using 6 dot braille 
on Android and IPhone. When you get used to it, you can really fly on the 
braille keyboard of the phone, and you don't need to buy anything. You can type 
in contracted braille also, just from the phone screen. If you need help 
getting started give me a shout on Whatsapp +27822916081.

YJd

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:40 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] regarding Hayble One braille keyboard

Hello Mukesh ji
I gave it a try once. Honestly, I didn't find it worth its price, that was 
approx 250 Euro. I didn't also find it very convenient, you have to hold it 
vertically with both hands for typing which doesn't serve its purpose of using 
in crowded places. Moreover, it doesn't give any sound output. In some ways 
though it could be useful like faster typing and using all apps in the handset. 
But for sound output you must be using an earphone.
HTH.
Sandeep
PS: I have all the literature (both android and IPhone), can share it.

On 2/28/24, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello Access Indians,
> How are you all? I just want to know if there is anyone on the list 
> from India  using the Braille keyboard Hayble One?
> This keyboard looks promising.
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> --
>
> regards,
> Mukesh Jain
>
> [image: JAWS Certified, 2022]
> 
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RE: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi all,
What is the concession we are entitled to with UDID card? Is it a percentage of 
the full price (MRP)? Or is it just up to the individual provider if they want 
to give concession and how much to give?

Thanks.

YJd

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I have also used my UDID card only for this purpose railways should also 
recognize UDID card for giving concession.


On 2/28/24, harish kotian  wrote:
> All
>
> Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka. 
> I was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the 
> conductor for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I 
> handed over my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with concession.
>
> I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first 
> time I made any use of UDID card.
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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

We have a fair non-taxable tax threshold in India then it seems, as you say 
500,000 per year. That’s around 41,600 per month gross income. I would assume 
once you exceed that threshold, then only the portion that exceeded the 
threshold will be taxed according to the first tax bracket (I think here these 
are called tax slabs)?

 

How do we know whether we belong to the old or new regime? Do all new tax 
accounts fall under new regime automatically or can we still choose which 
regime to join? What is the E-filing website URL?

 

Thanks.

 

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 6:49 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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format

 

As an individual, or firm or HUF or any organisation if your income is more 
than Rs.50/- in that case you should file income tax return. income taxx is 
a tax which you have to pay on your income with different stages and slabs. if 
it is less than rs.50/- you need not to worry about it.

Now their are 2 regimes  in income tax. most of the exemptions, rebaits and 
deductions you have mentioned are unavailable in new regime. they are available 
in old regime. 

If you are running a firm and having turnover above Rs.400/- then you 
should register your firm for GST. goods and service tax.

 

On 2/27/2024 6:30 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing tax returns 
with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of such an 
authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which 
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation 
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology 
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me? Here 
are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

6. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to 
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their 
parents/children Etc.

7. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is 
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

8. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves, 
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the process 
more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize our tax 
returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

Pranav wrote:

 

> Many individuals however elect to file their returns themselves since they 
> have one source of income primarily salaries. >

 

Understood. But if we have less experience as to what to file for in terms of 
rebates, reductions and exemptions, then we lose out on those anyway, not so? 
So unless we have enough experience I’m thinking this may also be why someone 
may not want to file themselves for the first time, until they have learnt all 
of the variables for claiming of returns.

Personally I’m quite afraid of the process, until I actually do it I guess.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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Behalf Of Pranav Lal
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format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

 

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[AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format (please ignore my previous mail and read this one)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

 

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing my own
tax returns with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of
such an authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me?
Here are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax credits

6. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

7. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their
parents/children Etc.

8. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

9. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves,
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the
process more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize
our tax returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of
this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] Looking for tax info in an easy-to-understand, accessible format

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

I am newly wanting to learn everything I need to know about filing tax
returns with the Indian tax authorities. I don't even know the name of such
an authority.

In trying to read up on tax in general, I've come up with terminology which
needs to be understood in general, as well as from the Indian legislation
perspective. Then again perhaps India uses different designation terminology
and methods of tax calculations.

 

Can someone suggest a good accessible starting point for dummies like me?
Here are some of the concepts I'm grappling with:

 

1. Tax thresholds

2. Tax rebates

3. Tax exemptions (such as on local investments)

4. Tax deductions

5. Tax incentives (if they apply to individuals filing personal tax)

6. Specific priveleges from any or all of the above categories availed to
people with 100% blindness, and those availed to their spouces and/or their
parents/children Etc.

7. Differences between a tax practitioner and a tax consultant, and which is
appropriate for an individual filer to use?

8. Why to use a professional to file on our behalf or why to file ourselves,
over-and-above the obvious fact of the professional perhaps knowing the
process more than we might before learning about such processes to maximize
our tax returns.

 

Thanks to any and all of you who might have something to share on any of
this.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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RE: [AI] Live translation software?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Google Translate does a very poor job of translating. It almost always only 
hears a few words at a time, and usually misunderstands what is spoken. It is 
not even close to a solution.

Perhaps technology needs to develop further until this can be done.

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Keshav Nadar
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Live translation software?

 

You can use Google Translate and Microsoft Translator tools in computer and 
mobile.

 

Best Regards

Keshav Nadar

 

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 7:51 PM ishan sangi mailto:jsiya1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

dear

 

i don't know any software 

but  i know 1 phone is claiming to do this 
samsung galaxy S24 or  samsung galaxy AI 


hope it will help 
regards 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 6:24 PM Yamuna Jivana Dasa mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi friends,

Anyone knows of software that can listen to speech in one language and 
translate in realtime to another language even while the speech is continuing 
to be spoken, all in realtime?

Ideally, we can then use earphones to listen to the translated audio without 
disturbing the microphone listening to the original text, because the TTS 
translated audio will come back on earphones so it won’t return back to the 
microphone listening to the source language original spoken audio.

I would like to listen in this way to spoken Hindi which gets translated into 
English.

As blind people this will be the equivalent to subtitles that sighted people 
use, so that while being entertained by what they watch, they can also learn 
the language more easily over time.

For now I would like to listen to, and understand today’s historic speech of 
our Prime Minister at the Sri Rama temple. My disability today is not being 
blind, it is being ignorant  of the Hindi language. Quite a disability this is!

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Mohib,
I can't set up Google Pay as yet because the account is not yet local account. 
I will do all that after converting from NRI to local. Then when we do UPI it 
will match the local account for linking with Google Pay.


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Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar 
Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

Why don't you pay from google pay directly, there is no need to fill this all 
captcha.

On 2/14/24, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:
> Hi friends,
>
> If you live anywhere in Uttar Pradesh, and you wish to use Internet 
> banking to pay your municipal account, I have learnt the following 
> which I am sharing in case it proves useful to anyone of us accessibility 
> users.
> Anyone with more experience please correct my findings or improve them 
> if you know better than this. I'm learning and sharing as I go along. 
> Still brand new at this in India.
>
> A direct Login address to the portal is:
> https://www.uppclonline.com/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/uppcl/wss?_nfpb
> =true&_pageLabel=uppcl_loginreg_login=LR_002
> Here directly you can select the Discom name, input your account 
> number and password if you created an account, and login. Before you 
> login there is a captcha to solve a sum of 2 numbers, but it is in a 
> graphic that Jaws/NVDA cannot normally see. It will show up in the virtual 
> cursor as:
> No description available. Graphic.
> When your virtual cursor lands on that, route your mouse cursor to it 
> (usually Insert Numpad-Minus on both screen-readers), and right-click 
> there (Numpad Star).
> From the context menu that pops up, choose "Open image in new tab". 
> Now with Jaws it is possible to OCR scan using Omni page (Insert 
> Spacebar followed by O then W).
> You will now need to navigate using jaws cursor and you should hear 2 
> numbers read together, such as 94 or 73 Etc. Actually this really  
> means 9 +
> 4 or 7 + 3 because there are only single digits to be added and the 
> OCR does not detect the plus sign inbetween.
> From this you can perform the sum of the two numbers, in our examples 
> those would be 13 or 10 respectively.
> With NVDA I haven't used it since working at Blind SA so I haven't 
> followed up if they have by now implemented OCR. If they do, try the 
> same with the OCR feature and let us know if you get similar results.
>
> And that's it. Hit the Login button and you're logged into the account.
> If you choose to make a payment from here you can choose payment type, 
> such as Internet Banking, UPI Etc and you should know the rest based 
> on your usual payment preference.
>
> I hope this helps some of you out there.
>
> Kind regards,
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RE: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Harish,
Thanks for this feedback, good to know. Does Rufus allow backing up the entire 
hard drive including operating system, then to move it later to another hard 
drive if the existing drive crashes? What if the restore drive has a smaller 
disk capacity than the source drive from which the image was originally made, 
but the actual data is less than the target disk, does Rufus allow 
restructuring the image to fit the smaller disk capacity?

This is why I moved away from Windows Backup, because it doesn't allow moving 
the disk to another disk without forcing the partition sizes to match the 
source. Macrium will allow you during the restore, to use the maximum partition 
size as the maximum available disk space, so that even if you bought a smaller 
disk for your operating system later, it will still restore to it provided of 
course the data can fit. The other problem is with Windows Backup, even if you 
later get a larger disk than the source disk to target for the restore, Windows 
Backup will create the OS partition as the size of the source disk, leaving the 
remaining capacity of your new larger disk not included in your partition. 
That's quite useless. So Macrium helps prevent all this. Now I'm wondering 
about Rufus and whether it can also do this?

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: harish kotian [mailto:hpkot...@outlook.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Yamuna Jivana Dasa 
Subject: Re: [AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

Hi

I use Rufus to make disk image and to make bootable USB disk. This is pretty 
accessible and I don't have any accessibility issue navigating it.

Harish


On 2/12/2024 6:56 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
> Hi friends,
> I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way 
> around Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
> containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
> virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
> configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally 
> too accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite 
> nicely with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
> It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
> provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
> Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
> program to do it.
> Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
> this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
> when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
> There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
> provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
> version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 
> 7 (32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
> safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.
>
> I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
> little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [AI] spotify membership.
>
> hello music lovers,
> here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 per year!
> we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are available, if 
> anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.
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RE: [AI] Here's help accessing the Captcha for log into your Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation municipal account

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

If you live anywhere in Uttar Pradesh, and you wish to use Internet banking to 
pay your municipal account, I have learnt the following which I am sharing in 
case it proves useful to anyone of us accessibility users.
Anyone with more experience please correct my findings or improve them if you 
know better than this. I'm learning and sharing as I go along. Still brand new 
at this in India.

A direct Login address to the portal is:
https://www.uppclonline.com/dispatch/Portal/appmanager/uppcl/wss?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=uppcl_loginreg_login=LR_002
Here directly you can select the Discom name, input your account number and 
password if you created an account, and login. Before you login there is a 
captcha to solve a sum of 2 numbers, but it is in a graphic that Jaws/NVDA 
cannot normally see. It will show up in the virtual cursor as:
No description available. Graphic.
When your virtual cursor lands on that, route your mouse cursor to it (usually 
Insert Numpad-Minus on both screen-readers), and right-click there (Numpad 
Star).
>From the context menu that pops up, choose "Open image in new tab". Now with 
>Jaws it is possible to OCR scan using Omni page (Insert Spacebar followed by O 
>then W).
You will now need to navigate using jaws cursor and you should hear 2 numbers 
read together, such as 94 or 73 Etc. Actually this really  means 9 + 4 or 7 + 3 
because there are only single digits to be added and the OCR does not detect 
the plus sign inbetween.
>From this you can perform the sum of the two numbers, in our examples those 
>would be 13 or 10 respectively.
With NVDA I haven't used it since working at Blind SA so I haven't followed up 
if they have by now implemented OCR. If they do, try the same with the OCR 
feature and let us know if you get similar results.

And that's it. Hit the Login button and you're logged into the account.
If you choose to make a payment from here you can choose payment type, such as 
Internet Banking, UPI Etc and you should know the rest based on your usual 
payment preference.

I hope this helps some of you out there.

Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana Dasa


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[AI] Macrium Reflect Partition manager Accessibility Notes

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,
I'm excited to inform those interested that I managed to navigate my way around 
Macrium Reflect Manager, which is a software I now use to image disks 
containing a complete Windows operating system. If ever my disk fails, gets a 
virus Etc, I can recover it, along with my screen-readers, all installed and 
configured Apps Etc exactly as they are now. The software is not generally too 
accessible but I have found work-arounds to actually access it quite nicely 
with Jaws. Similar things can be done with NVDA no doubt.
It can image a disk image of a larger disk size to a smaller disk size, 
provided the data itself being imaged can fit on the smaller disk. Windows 
Backup and Restore cannot do this, which is why I am using this external 
program to do it.
Anyone interested in this can contact me. For now I'm including attached to 
this E-mail my notes I took for myself so that I don't forget how to do this 
when months or years later I need to do it again with this software.
There was a Freeware version available previously, but now they no longer 
provide it. Fortunately before the company decided to stop offering the free 
version I downloaded the off-line installers of the free versions for Windows 7 
(32-bit) and for Windows 10. Since it is not illegal to do so anyway I can 
safely publically offer to send the software to anyone wanting it.

I mean, we blind people have to look after each other so I'm trying to do my 
little bit to walk the talk as far as that is concerned.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Shankar C
Sent: Monday, February 5, 2024 8:22 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] spotify membership.

hello music lovers,
here is an opportunity to get the spotify membership just for rs 350 per year!
we recently purchased the family subscriptions and 2 slots are available, if 
anyone is interested, people can reach me at 7795927572.

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To back up a disk, go to the menu bar to Backup, Image  selected disks.
Tab past the Help, next, Cancel and finish buttons.
We land on Disk List but from here Jaws will no longer speak from PC cursor as 
we tab. It is best to turn screen-echo to all (Insert 2).
Route Jaws to PC (Numpad Insert + Numpad Minus), and hear current line to learn 
which disk we are landed on. It reads the model name and at the end of that 
line tells the size.
By default all disks seem selected. We need to deselect everything except the 
ones we want to image.
If we go down a line we hear numbered partitions from left to right:
status of the partitions such as no name or System reserved, and in brackets we 
hear drive letters if assigned. So, partitions are all given in columns for 
each disk, with each partition being named on that same line.
Below on the next row we hear corresponding info for each partition related to 
the previous row, again from left to right because of the corresponding columns 
of the data: We hear the types of partitions such as NTFS, FAT32, LBA Etc.
Still using Jaws cursor if we press Home to get to beginning of that line, we 
land on a checkbox to deselect all partitions of that disk, in other words, the 
entire disk. Reading current word (Insert Numpad5) doesn't even say blank here 
but this is a good indication we have landed on that checkbox. Left-click on it 
with Numpad Slash and you've just de-selected the

[AI] Winamp users over here?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

Any dinosaurs like me out here still using Winamp for audio playback??

I like the ease of access to the equalizer, panning and moving tracks around 
the playlist, all easy to use from the keyboard. After adjusting EQ to your 
liking, saving that preset is easy also.

Then there’s a compressor plugin that you can also adjust easily, turn it on 
and off as you like Etc.

Anyone knows if there’s any modern audio playback programs that makes all this 
easy also from the keyboard?

 

Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of minar singh
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 7:20 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] i had a good experience with SBI

 

Hi,

I took 10 lakhs for 6 years with an 8.25 % of interest rate.

There is no rebate for people with disabilities. Interest rates calculation 
depends on several factors like customer's profile, loan amount and the tenure 
and the previous credit history. 

 

On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:58 PM tech talks tech talks 
mailto:yusufbalapar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yes even I want to know about the interest rate of bank loans for the persons 
with disabilities there is any concession in it or it's remains same as all

 

On Tue, 30 Jan, 2024, 5:58 pm Sushmeetha Bubna, mailto:sushmee...@voicevision.in> > wrote:

Congratulations! Its great to know your ease of transacting with SBI. May I 
know the amount of loan and the rate of interest charged? If not on the mailing 
group, feel free to reply privately to me. 

 

Reason of asking this to support one of our beneficiary. Hope you understand.  

 

 

Best Regards,

Sushmeetha B. Bubna | Founder Director

 

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mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of minar singh
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:19 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] i had a good experience with SBI

 

Hello Access Indians,
SBI sanctioned the home loan for me with the minimal documents within 10
minutes. I did not face any challenges due to my blindness and thumb
impression.

i'm thankful to SBI team.

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RE: [AI] Auto-expansion of Context Menu Items in Windows Laptop

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Harshit,

Before I say anything else, unfortunately I do not know of a solution to your 
automatic expansion of sub-menus problem. But I have tried to ask our good old 
friend Google Bard about it to see what he? She? It? Could suggest. May be you 
could find some potential solutions here, although some of it may clearly turn 
out useless. Let me know if you managed to find any solutions from this below.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
When I press application key or Shift+F10 on any icon/file to open its context 
menu and press up/down arrow to go to a specific context menu item, then if any 
item has sub-menu, it expands automatically without pressing right arrow. This 
creates a problem using a screen-reader if I do not want to go to that specific 
sub-menu because I am not able to return back to the main list even after 
pressing left arrow.

Google Bard responded:
I understand the frustration you're facing with context menus automatically 
expanding submenus, making it difficult to navigate using a screen reader. 
While I can't provide a universal solution, here are some potential approaches 
and tips:

1. Check for Accessibility Settings:

Windows:
Navigate to Ease of Access Center > Make the keyboard easier to use.
Look for options related to context menu behavior or keyboard navigation.
macOS:
Open System Preferences > Accessibility > Keyboard.
Explore settings for menu navigation or full keyboard access.
Third-party apps:
Check their settings for accessibility features or custom keyboard shortcuts.
2. Explore Screen Reader Navigation Commands:

NVDA: Use NVDA+Shift+Down Arrow to navigate within a submenu and NVDA+Up Arrow 
to return to the parent menu.
JAWS: Use Insert+Down Arrow to explore a submenu and Insert+Up Arrow to go back.
VoiceOver: Swipe left or right with two fingers to navigate between menu items 
and levels.
3. Consider Alternative Navigation Methods:

Mouse: If possible, use the mouse to directly click the desired menu item, 
avoiding submenu expansion.
Touchscreen: Swipe or tap to access different menu levels.
4. Seek Software Updates:

Keep your operating system and applications up-to-date, as they may include 
fixes for accessibility issues.
5. Report the Issue:

If the problem persists, contact the software developers or accessibility teams 
to report the issue and request a fix.
Additional Tips:

Use the Esc key to close a context menu entirely if you get stuck.
Practice navigating menus with your screen reader in a safe environment to 
familiarize yourself with the commands.
Consider using a screen reader training guide or online resources for more 
specific instructions.
I hope these suggestions help you navigate context menus more effectively. Feel 
free to provide more details about your specific setup (operating system, 
screen reader, applications) if you need further assistance.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa wrote:
The problem I am facing is using Windows 10, with both Jaws and NVDA as 
screen-readers, but the problem seems to be something in the operating system 
which expands sub-menus automatically when landing on it using the up and down 
arrows. Is there anything in Windows 10 that might be changed to prevent 
automatic expansion of menus with sub-menus? The normal behaviour is that you 
have to press the right arrow or enter to expand the sub-menu for it to expand. 
Is there any setting in Windows that may have been accidentally changed from 
default behaviour with context menu sub-menus?

Google Bard responded:
You're right, automatic submenu expansion shouldn't occur in Windows 10 by 
default. Here are some things you can try to diagnose and potentially fix the 
issue:

Settings to check:

Ease of Access Center:
Go to Control Panel > Ease of Access Center > Make the keyboard easier to use.
Ensure "Turn on Sticky Keys" and "Use MouseKeys" are off.
Under "Change how keyboard shortcuts work", ensure "Underline keyboard 
shortcuts in Start Menu and Desktop menus" is off.
Mouse Properties:
Open Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Mouse.
On the Buttons tab, ensure "Double-click speed" is set to a comfortable level 
and not too fast.
Power Options:
Go to Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options.
Choose your active power plan and click Change plan settings.
Click "Change advanced power settings".
Expand "USB settings" and then "USB selective suspend setting".
Set it to Disabled for both battery and plugged-in modes.
Other steps:

Restart Windows: Sometimes a simple restart can resolve temporary software 
glitches.
Scan for malware: Malware can sometimes interfere with system behavior. Run a 
full system scan with your antivirus software.
Create a new user profile: Create a new user profile and see if the issue 
persists there. This can help diagnose if the problem is specific to your 
current user profile.
System File Checker (SFC): Open a Command Prompt as admini

RE: [AI] General accessibility guidelines (was Urgent accessibility concerns in telegram from visually impaired user)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Dear Yatin, and anyone interested in software accessibility in general,

Yatin, You’ve written a nice letter. Others on this list have done this and 
shared also here. We are always greatful when some of us make the effort to 
liaise with companies for accessibility, although we know well usually they 
will not take seriously. The attempt is what counts. I thank you and all who do 
this.

 

Now to address the technically inclined on this list: I would like to 
brainstorm. Often, the problem could be fixed from the screen-reader side. At 
other times, the App developer may need specific information about technical 
aspects that break accessibility in their apps, such as Window names, handles 
and class, or the off-screen models and how they are interacted with by the 
screen-reader, or fail to do so when they break accessibility.

The problem is that when end-users like us who are not too technically clued 
up, we are unable to present those details in our letters to developers.

Take for example this statement in Yatin’s letter:

 

“Crippled reading control: Navigating long messages in channels, groups, and 
personal chats is incredibly challenging due to the absence of 
character-by-character, word-by-word, line-by-line, or paragraph-by-paragraph 
reading options. This bug, introduced in November 2021 and despite repeated 
reports, remains unaddressed, severely impacting the user experience for 
individuals who rely on screen readers.”

 

At first glance, it may appear to the developer from Yatin’s letter that this 
is a function of the screen-reader, not of the app. Yet something in the app 
has broken the screen-reader’s ability to read text by the various reading mode 
granularity.

 

It may be a nice idea if we could start some sort of forum where letters 
detailing problems in Apps accessibility by end-users can be first referred to 
a technically inclined tester, who could then modify the end-user’s letter to 
include possible app coding adjustments that could fix accessibility. 

Or perhaps the tester could ascertain that the problem is better written for 
from the screen-reader’s capability. This is true more so when new features 
become more widely used so that screen-readers might be trained for such 
functionality in general, opening up accessibility for more Apps that use such 
features or functions in their coding.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Kind regards

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of yatin panchal
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 12:58 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Urgent accessibility concerns in telegram from visually impaired 
user

 

Dear Telegram Team,

 

My name is Yatin Panchal, and I am writing to express my deep concern about the 
declining accessibility of the Telegram platform for users who rely on screen 
readers, like myself. As a visually impaired individual, I heavily utilize 
assistive technologies like TalkBack for Android, VoiceOver for iOS, NVDA, and 
JAWS for Windows to navigate and interact with digital platforms. 
Unfortunately, Telegram's recent decline in accessibility features has created 
significant hurdles in my ability to use the platform effectively.

 

Specifically, the lack of comprehensive screen reader support presents several 
critical challenges:

Limited chat window accessibility: Compared to apps like WhatsApp, clicking the 
file sharing button in Telegram does not provide sufficient information for 
screen readers. This makes it difficult for me to understand and access shared 
files accurately.

Crippled reading control: Navigating long messages in channels, groups, and 
personal chats is incredibly challenging due to the absence of 
character-by-character, word-by-word, line-by-line, or paragraph-by-paragraph 
reading options. This bug, introduced in November 2021 and despite repeated 
reports, remains unaddressed, severely impacting the user experience for 
individuals who rely on screen readers.

 

It is important to note that I am not solely focusing on Telegram. I have also 
actively reported similar accessibility issues to Google in hopes of improving 
TalkBack's functionality. My goal is not to pinpoint blame, but rather to 
emphasize the collaborative effort needed to address these challenges and 
ensure everyone can enjoy a truly inclusive digital experience.

 

Therefore, I urge you to prioritize and implement the following changes:

Enhanced screen reader compatibility: Ensure all buttons, functions, and menus 
are readily accessible and consistently announced by screen readers like 
TalkBack, VoiceOver, NVDA, and JAWS. This will allow for seamless navigation 
and interaction for users with diverse needs.

Urgent resolution of the reading control bug: Fix the critical bug impacting 
message navigation for screen readers as soon as possible. This will 
significantly improve the usability and experience for countless visually

[AI] Filling PDF forms

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

There are 4 very different situations I can think of in doing what you are
requesting. If anyone wants to add to this or offer corrections or
clarifications please do so.

 

1.   In the first situation, if you want to fill a PDF form, then the
form must be properly created in the PDF file.

The person creating the PDF form must assign the proper controls such as
text fields, buttons, checkboxes Etc. If this is true, you can use your
screen-reader's Edit mode or Forms mode, and tab or shift-tab between these
controls and fill it out that way. In other words, this will work only if
the form is made accessible. If they do not apply these controls in the
form, then you have no choice but to use method 2, 3 or 4 below which
applies to inaccessible PDF forms.

 

2.   If the PDF is still in computer text and not a raw image, you could
still import it into Microsoft Word, and fill in text manually into the text
area of the form, but of course the form will lose its original formatting
because then you would be modifying it.

 

3.   If the PDF is an image, then you could perform OCR and fill it into
the OCR text, but a further risk here is that the OCR text itself could have
OCR errors which will be a misrepresentation of the original text. As with
method 2 above, you also risk the format of the original form in the
document.

 

4.   I'll mention the obvious as a fourth method: Print out the PDF and
have a sighted person fill it out, scan the filled form and archive or send
it off as you need to. If you are saving the scanned image, you can name the
file meaningfully in your filing system so that you can identify it later
without sighted help. Don't bother trying to OCR the filled form because OCR
cannot detect hand-writing very well, and in most cases will produce garbage
output for the hand-written penned text.

 

I hope this helps. Any corrections or clarifications are welcome.

 

Wishing everyone a happy day on today's glorious occasion of the restoration
of Sri Rama lala in Ayodhya Dhama by our most glorious prime minister Modi
and other dignitaries.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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[AI] Live translation software?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi friends,

Anyone knows of software that can listen to speech in one language and
translate in realtime to another language even while the speech is
continuing to be spoken, all in realtime?

Ideally, we can then use earphones to listen to the translated audio without
disturbing the microphone listening to the original text, because the TTS
translated audio will come back on earphones so it won't return back to the
microphone listening to the source language original spoken audio.

I would like to listen in this way to spoken Hindi which gets translated
into English.

As blind people this will be the equivalent to subtitles that sighted people
use, so that while being entertained by what they watch, they can also learn
the language more easily over time.

For now I would like to listen to, and understand today's historic speech of
our Prime Minister at the Sri Rama temple. My disability today is not being
blind, it is being ignorant  of the Hindi language. Quite a disability this
is!

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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[AI] Any audio/verbal feedback on the Ram temple event today?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Friends,

As we know today is the most historic breakthrough after 500 years
suppression over the Ayodhya temple of Lord Rama's birthplace, and we would
like to hear some feedback. Anyone knows if we can hear the live event with
some audio feedback of the happenings there?

Thanks.

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RE: [AI] Text-to-speech using contextual Voice inflection AI

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

It’s Adam voice from ElevenLabs.io. No App, just an on-line platform. You can 
make adjustments to inflection settings Etc.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amiyo Biswas
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 8:06 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Text-to-speech using contextual Voice inflection AI

 

It's great. What is the app and tts?

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506 / 9433464329

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Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2024 11:59 AM

Subject: [AI] Text-to-speech using contextual Voice inflection AI

 

Dear friends,

Here is a very interesting representation of text from the Bhagavad-gita by a 
TTS engine which adjusts the voice inflection according to the context and 
meaning of what is being said.

I know this is true because I myself fed in the text of Bhagavad-gita Chapter 2 
Text 2.

I chose this text because the first part is a statement “The Supreme 
Personality of Godhead said”. This should be spoken the way we speak 
statements, with a largely flat-lined intonation of speech.

But the second part is Lord Krishna actually speaking a chastisement to his 
disciple Arjuna. “How have these impurities come upon you!” Etc.

This is spoken with a significantly more energy in the speech intonation. The 
only way the TTS engine will know to apply this change in the specific way as 
to represent a chastisement is If it also understands what is being said and 
thus the mood in which it must be said.

 

I promise you I did not make any of these changes to the speech output. I only 
copied in the text and did not change speech parameters between sections.

Listen to the MP3 attachment and I’m sure you’ll be amazed.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

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RE: [AI] Desk top whatsapp app

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

If you're using the Jaws scripts for Jaws 2023 and higher, the clocest I've 
seen is Control Alt A for making an audio call. Try using that when a call is 
coming in, remote chance that may be it will work? Let us know if It does.


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Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 7:45 PM
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Subject: [AI] Desk top whatsapp app

dear all, greetings, using whatsapp on desk top app is easy, does anyone know 
keyboard shortcut for accepting incoming calls?
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My interaction with Google Bard (was RE: [AI] Podcast on voice chat with chat GPT)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

It’s interesting you would send this. I was just about to share my own recent 
interaction with Google Bard, which is also on my Facebook page to my usually 
Hare Krishna devotee audience.

I am sharing here an engaging conversation I had with a non-human entity called 
Google Bard. I am totally fascinated by how accurately this data processing 
machine can replicate us humans.

See below and please share your thoughts in the comments. If this ends up in 
the wrong hands and is fitted with physical parts as we have human bodies, this 
thing can become very powerful, far more than we are with our bodies made of 
flesh and blood. In the wrong hands, this thing can be programmed to make 
choices for its creator, giving complete control of the world to them.

We have seen that like anything before, such as knives, guns and bombs, ending 
up in the wrong hands is inevitable despite safeguards and regulation. AI is 
far more impactful because it extends from the physical machine into human 
consciousness. Its impact can be positively helpful to us and devastatingly 
harmful far more than a knife in the hands of a physician or murderer because 
of this impact on human thinking and the shaping of consciousness globally. 
Think about this as you read the below, then let's talk about this.

Finally, in the wake of Lord Caitanya's promised spiritual awakening, what part 
do you think artificial intelligence might play on both sides of the playing 
field, that is, for the demons and the saintly during the current power-play 
warfare?

Your thoughts are welcome. See below.

[Start of conversation]

Yamuna Jivana dasa wrote:

If we take a specific number of days and divide it by 365 days in a year, what 
is achieved by the result?

Google Bard responded:

Dividing a specific number of days by 365 days in a year (the number of days in 
a non-leap year) can tell you a couple of things, depending on what you're 
interested in:

1. Proportion of a year: The result will be a decimal number between 0 and 1. 
It represents the portion of a year that the number of days represents. For 
example, if you divide 182 days by 365, you get about 0.4986, which means 182 
days is roughly half a year (or 6 months).

2. Number of years (approximately): If the result is a whole number, it tells 
you how many complete years the number of days represents. For instance, 
dividing 730 days by 365 gives you 2, which means 730 days is about 2 years.

3. Leap years: It's important to remember that this calculation assumes a 
non-leap year of 365 days. In a leap year, there are 366 days. So, if you're 
dealing with days within a leap year, the calculation might not be as accurate 
for determining the exact proportion of a year or the number of years.

Overall, dividing the number of days by 365 days in a year is a helpful way to 
understand the relative position of that number of days within a year. It can 
tell you how close it is to a certain point in the year, how much of a year it 
represents, or roughly how many years it takes to accumulate that many days.

I hope this explanation helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.

Yamuna Jivana dasa wrote:

I was given this formula to calculate the early redemption penalty on an 
investment. Can you explain these steps more clearly in words? "4% of amount 
wanted * (number of days left until expiry, divided by 365). Note the brackets 
here."

Google Bard responded:

Absolutely! Let's break down the formula for early redemption penalty into 
simpler steps:

1. Amount Wanted: This refers to the amount of money you want to withdraw from 
the investment before its maturity date. For example, if you invested $10,000 
and want to withdraw $5,000 early, the "amount wanted" would be $5,000.

2. 4% of Amount Wanted: This step calculates a smaller penalty amount based on 
the portion you want to withdraw early. Multiplying the desired withdrawal 
amount by 4% gives you a penalty based on its value. For example, with $5,000 
desired withdrawal and 4% penalty, this calculates to 0.04 * $5,000 = $200.

3. Number of Days Left Until Expiry: This part measures how close you are to 
the investment's maturity date. Subtract the current date from the original 
maturity date to find the remaining number of days. For example, if the 
investment matures in 90 days and you withdraw today, this would be 90 days.

4. Divided by 365: This step adjusts the penalty based on the time remaining 
relative to a full year. Dividing the number of days left by 365 (days in a 
non-leap year) gives a factor reflecting how much of the penalty period you're 
"escaping" by withdrawing early. For example, with 90 days left in a non-leap 
year, this is 90 / 365 = 0.2465.

5. Multiplying Penalties: Finally, you multiply the amount-based penalty 
calculated in step 2 by the time-based factor calculated in step 4. This gives 
you the final early redemption penalty you owe for withdrawing the desired

RE: [AI] Airtel Thanks App Accessibility or alternative

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote:
"I use airtel thanks app only as its partially accessible or i use airtel light 
app which is fully accessible with limited functionality".

Please tell me where to get the Lite version from - I  can't find it on Android 
Playstore, and the normal Thanks app is totally accessible - how are you 
finding it partially accessible?
I'm seeing things like:
Profile_Landing_Nav_Header_Title_Text
OneAirtelShadow_Child_getChildren

Screen-readers  seem to be reading Window names and not Window contents so 
there's very little guesswork one can make, while displayed text on buttons and 
links will not be seen.
Somehow the Thanks App is exposing things unconventionally to the 
screen-readers. I don't know technically what's behind the problem. Does anyone 
know here?
I want to activate my Amazon Prime OTT from my Fibre subscription extras.
It's unreasonable that for such things we have to get sighted help while logged 
into our personal accounts.

Any thoughts?

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 8:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel Thanks App Accessibility or alternative

@Yamuna, you will be able to pay your airtel bills from third party apps like 
paytm or amazon or gpay for that matter. What you need to know, your customer 
id or fiber landline number and you will have to choose plan and proceed to 
payment, in this case you will bypass inaccessible airtel interface.
As i mentioned in my earlier message, i followed the link that was sent to me 
by airtel through text message, all of my details were already filled over 
there, i simply chose the plan and proceed to payment through my airtel axis 
bank credit card. For bills and other prepaid recharges of my prepaid airtel 
number, i use airtel thanks app only as its partially accessible or i use 
airtel light app which is fully accessible with limited functionality.

On 8/4/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yogan Khandoo)  wrote:
> Hi Pranav,
> You say it is possible to use the bank’s interface to pay the bill.
> Do they send you a link by E-mail or something like that which takes 
> you to the payment gateway of your Bank to login and pay from there? 
> Or please say how you would do it from the bank directly? If I 
> remember correctly those links are only active for 30 minutes or so 
> and then they expire. That’s what happened when they signed me up for 
> the first time: the agent sent me a link by Whatsapp but by the time I 
> managed to get in the link had expired. He sent it again then it 
> worked. It took me to the Airtel page to show the payment details, 
> allowed me to click the Pay button which directed the browser to the 
> Login for ICICI, and once logged in there was a direct option to pay with OTP 
> to confirm from my phone number linked to my ICICI account.
> Is this how it works?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
> From: Pranav Lal
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2023 5:09 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: RE: [AI] Airtel Thanks App Accessibility or alternative
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The trick with airtel is not to use their site.
>
>
>
> Use your bank or paytm to pay your bill.
>
>
>
> Pranav
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RE: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and shrimad bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi Omkar,

Here is a link to download everything. You will see the filename is Sandeep.zip 
because first I sent it to him because he asked for it, and now I am just 
sharing it with you also. You can of course change the file name of the zip 
file, or just extract the main folder Sandeep then change the name of that 
folder as you wish.

https://we.tl/t-drc1voJGWV

 

Please ask me if you need further help.

 

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Omkar Pawaskar
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 2:37 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and 
shrimad bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

 

Hello sir. Hare Krishna. Yes sir please send me all these books.

Thanks and regards. Omkar Pawaskar.

 

On Wed, 3 Jan, 2024, 9:20 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa, mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

If you are interested, I have Srimad Bhagavatam in English, from author 
Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, in text format, and audio MP3 format 
spoken by His Holiness Amala Bhakta Swami.

I also have Mahabharata in story format adapted for English narrative, by 
Krishna Dharma Dasa, and I have a different shorter version in MP3 audio 
format, spoken in English, but I do not remember who read this out, but very 
nicely done with background music.

 

If interested write me off-list.

 

Thank you.

 

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2023 3:04 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and shrimad 
bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

 

Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well.

I need a small help from you all. Actually, I want to read the original epic 
Mahabharata. Also I want to read the original Shrimad Bhagwat Katha. I know the 
original books of these two stories are of in Sanskrit language. But if this 
books are available in Hindi translation and in accessible format then please 
let me know. and if anybody is having these two books in Hindi language and in 
accessible format then  please send me.

Thanks and regards. Omkar Pawaskar.

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RE: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and shrimad bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa]

Hi,

If you are interested, I have Srimad Bhagavatam in English, from author 
Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, in text format, and audio MP3 format 
spoken by His Holiness Amala Bhakta Swami.

I also have Mahabharata in story format adapted for English narrative, by 
Krishna Dharma Dasa, and I have a different shorter version in MP3 audio 
format, spoken in English, but I do not remember who read this out, but very 
nicely done with background music.

 

If interested write me off-list.

 

Thank you.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Omkar Pawaskar
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2023 3:04 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Need the Information about original Mahabharata Epic and shrimad 
bhagwat Katha inaccessible format.

 

Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well.

I need a small help from you all. Actually, I want to read the original epic 
Mahabharata. Also I want to read the original Shrimad Bhagwat Katha. I know the 
original books of these two stories are of in Sanskrit language. But if this 
books are available in Hindi translation and in accessible format then please 
let me know. and if anybody is having these two books in Hindi language and in 
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RE: [AI] Handling of cash?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Braille won’t work on notes.

Notes are subject to degradation passing through so many hands. When they 
become even slightly softened, the dots would have significantly faded.

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of UDIT Pandey
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 2:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Handling of cash?

 

and,

here, we are talking about those people who have minimum education, and, have a 
minimum living. But, there in our country, India, we have mor visually 
challenged people who are not educated, and, even cannot afford any type of 
smartphone or these  vollets. What for them?

don't you all think, that, we should make a online petition. For RBI, so, that, 
they can print these notes in braile.

 

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 14:41, UDIT Pandey mailto:udit52...@gmail.com> > wrote:

why? its not perfect?

 

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 08:57, mailto:prashant...@gmail.com> > wrote:

This talking wallet is there in NAB Delhi. People in Delhi can check it and 
decide for themselves if it is useful for them. 
My opinion is that it is useful but not perfect. 

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 10:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
Subject: Re: [AI] Handling of cash?

The best option is to have a talking wallet.
Its a little expensive, but its worth as it'll be only a one time investment.
It costs around 5 thousand, and speaks the denominations the moment you touch a 
corner of the currency to it.
The best part is that it even tells you whether the currency is fake or not.
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Avichal


On 12/21/23, avinash shahi mailto:shahi88avin...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> Hello
> MANI, (Mobile Aided Note Identifier ) App is an excellent innovation 
> of the Reserve Bank of India. Thousands of visually challenged people 
> in India use it. Please download it from GooglePlay or Apple Store. Rs 
> twenty coin and 5 Rupee coins can be easily identifiable by touch.
>
> On 12/21/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> >
> wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Can some of us who are totally blind share how you identify cash 
>> coins and notes? Particularly in situations where, let’s say you have 
>> to verify change you receive for the payment you just made in cash, 
>> let’s say to Amazon delivery guy?
>>
>>
>>
>> My first thought is that it would be nice to have a special kind of tray,
>> perhaps multi-layered, in which you have say 6 or 7 compartments for
>> coins,
>> and the same for notes. This way you simply keep denominations separately
>> for choosing when making payments yourself. But the challenge comes when
>> you
>> need to verify money someone gives you, let’s say as change Etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts will be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
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RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Amar,

I believe sighted people’s preferences change very quickly as they “view” 
things on-line. We cannot really keep up with our wives in that regard. Fact is 
we may even fail to realize how much we do not know by not seeing their world 
change as they daily feast their eyes through the various digital shopping 
world!

Personally I won’t try to chase up. If you can’t beat them, join them. “I want 
to get something you really like or need, so tell me and we’ll do this together 
for your birthday” is an example of how I would start that conversation.

 

YJd

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 10:53 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: Pranav Lal 
Subject: Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

She does all sorts of shopping from brands be it online or offline including 
clothing. And I am on the other hand a kind of a person who has his outlets and 
brands fixed and don't like taking too much of pain to shop!

 

 

Yep-have been trying simpler things-as I know I can mess things up when it 
comes to all this :)

On 26/12/2023 08:25, Pranav Lal wrote:

Hi Amar,

 

MM hmm, this is a tricky one since you are dealing with useless audio and 
strange videos.

 

Does your wife do offline shopping or only online shopping?  My wife does both 
and one way to learn what to do is to go with her and keep track of the brands 
she shops.

 

Avoid online shopping since determining clothing sizes is hard. Each brand has 
its own size so a size 7 in brand x is different from a size 7 in brand y.

 

Come to think of it, how about gifting something that is easier like a  
staycation?

Pranav

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 3:14 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

Thanks Pranav. She primarily keeps track through social media and YouTube 
influencers both of which I am worst at. Thank you.

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

 


  _  


From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > on 
behalf of Pranav Lal mailto:pranav@gmail.com> >
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

Amar,

 

Each brand has its own influencers though watching their videos will usually 
not yield much useful information. How does your wife track her brands? Does 
she, for instance watch a lot of short videos???

 

Your favorite search engine of choice would yield you the top brands in 
whatever category of product you want. If it is clothing, look for seasonal 
collections. I think that brand is Tommy hillfigure. See 
https://tommyhilfiger.nnnow.com/

Pranav

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 10:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

For those who know me, I am a pure desi guy. Love amazing food, travelling and 
people. So my brand choices or awareness of styles and trends is quite not 
matching young kids.

 

My wife on the other hand knows the ins and out of latest trends and brands 
like Louis Vuitton. Or middle range brands like Tommy something.

 

Just to be able to gift something well to her and to be able to relate with new 
trends what can I follow for girls and guys? YouTube influencers list for guys?

 

Regards,

Amar Jain

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

May be y’all will find this strange, Amar and all on this thread, but here goes 
how I do it.

I usually don’t buy my wife gifts, and I don’t expect her to buy me gifts. 
Instead we express our desires to each other about what we desire to have, and 
we work together to get it.

This working together, planning towards each others needs I find even more 
rewarding because it’s a collective effort that is sustained for us both. Not 
only the day the gift comes is it a nice exchange. That exchange happens from 
the moment one of us says “I wish I could have this thing”. The moment the 
other partner says, ok, let’s save up for it, the chase begins to satisfy the 
spouce.

 

Anyway just my ways, each for his own, but just in case someone wants to 
consider this as an interesting addition to your nuptial fun with your sighted 
or even blind spouce, … 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 8:26 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

Hi Amar,

 

MM hmm, this is a tricky one since you are dealing with useless audio and 
strange videos. 

 

Does your wife do offline shopping or only online shopping?  My wife does both 
and one way to learn what to do is to go with her and keep track of the brands 
she shops. 

 

Avoid online shopping since determining clothing sizes is hard. Each brand has 
its own size so a size 7 in brand x is different from a size 7 in brand y.

 

Come to think of it, how about gifting something that is easier like a  
staycation?

Pranav

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 3:14 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: Re: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

Thanks Pranav. She primarily keeps track through social media and YouTube 
influencers both of which I am worst at. Thank you.

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

 

  _  

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > on 
behalf of Pranav Lal mailto:pranav@gmail.com> >
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2023 8:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: RE: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

Amar,

 

Each brand has its own influencers though watching their videos will usually 
not yield much useful information. How does your wife track her brands? Does 
she, for instance watch a lot of short videos???

 

Your favorite search engine of choice would yield you the top brands in 
whatever category of product you want. If it is clothing, look for seasonal 
collections. I think that brand is Tommy hillfigure. See 
https://tommyhilfiger.nnnow.com/

Pranav

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in   
mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > On 
Behalf Of Amar Jain
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 10:13 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  
Subject: [AI] How to know good brands and latest trends

 

For those who know me, I am a pure desi guy. Love amazing food, travelling and 
people. So my brand choices or awareness of styles and trends is quite not 
matching young kids.

 

My wife on the other hand knows the ins and out of latest trends and brands 
like Louis Vuitton. Or middle range brands like Tommy something.

 

Just to be able to gift something well to her and to be able to relate with new 
trends what can I follow for girls and guys? YouTube influencers list for guys?

 

Regards,

Amar Jain

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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RE: [AI] Handling of cash?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Are you serious! Something like that exists?
Where to find one? Does it support Indian currency? What if the currency 
changes form, does it allow updating of currency specifications via some sort 
of flash memory or something?


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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 10:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Handling of cash?

The best option is to have a talking wallet.
Its a little expensive, but its worth as it'll be only a one time investment.
It costs around 5 thousand, and speaks the denominations the moment you touch a 
corner of the currency to it.
The best part is that it even tells you whether the currency is fake or not.
Hope it helps.
Thanks,
Avichal


On 12/21/23, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Hello
> MANI, (Mobile Aided Note Identifier ) App is an excellent innovation 
> of the Reserve Bank of India. Thousands of visually challenged people 
> in India use it. Please download it from GooglePlay or Apple Store. Rs 
> twenty coin and 5 Rupee coins can be easily identifiable by touch.
>
> On 12/21/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) 
> 
> wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Can some of us who are totally blind share how you identify cash 
>> coins and notes? Particularly in situations where, let’s say you have 
>> to verify change you receive for the payment you just made in cash, 
>> let’s say to Amazon delivery guy?
>>
>>
>>
>> My first thought is that it would be nice to have a special kind of tray,
>> perhaps multi-layered, in which you have say 6 or 7 compartments for
>> coins,
>> and the same for notes. This way you simply keep denominations separately
>> for choosing when making payments yourself. But the challenge comes when
>> you
>> need to verify money someone gives you, let’s say as change Etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts will be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana dasa
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RE: [AI] Using whatsup app on windows

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi,
If I remember correctly support for Whatsapp App only starts with Jaws 2022 or 
2023.
If that's what you have you don't have to do anything else.
Open Whatsapp and you can immediately hit Jaws key plus H to hear the shortcuts 
available. Or you could arrow down the latest chats, or type in the name of 
someone then arrow down to the nearest hits. When you press enter you're 
immediately at the edit field to type to that person. Alt H takes you to the 
messages of that chat so you can arrow through them. Alt C returns you to your 
original list of chats. Use Jaws key plus H to learn about more cool features 
like making an audio call, recording voice messages Etc while you are in a 
chat. And if you don't want to learn the shortcuts, tab and shift-tab also gets 
you to those buttons or controls.
Hope this hehlps.

YJd
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Behalf Of Avi Das
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 10:41 PM
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Subject: [AI] Using whatsup app on windows

Dear all,
Can somebody provide a guide on using whatsup app on windows pc with Jaws?
Thankx
Avi?

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[AI] Handling of cash?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Dear friends,

Can some of us who are totally blind share how you identify cash coins and 
notes? Particularly in situations where, let’s say you have to verify change 
you receive for the payment you just made in cash, let’s say to Amazon delivery 
guy?

 

My first thought is that it would be nice to have a special kind of tray, 
perhaps multi-layered, in which you have say 6 or 7 compartments for coins, and 
the same for notes. This way you simply keep denominations separately for 
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to verify money someone gives you, let’s say as change Etc.

 

Any thoughts will be appreciated.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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[AI] UDID related questions

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi friends,
A few questions if y'all don't mind:

1. I've been hearing about two things: UDID, and disability certificate. From 
the context of discussions it appears they are not the same thing. In that case:
1.1. Why two separate documents are necessary to prove disability?
1.2. Which of the two is most important?
1.3. Can you get one without the other?

2. Now that I have Aadhaar card, what is my next most important step towards 
legal recognition of disability and inclusion in India? What is the procedure 
to follow that step?
3. From former discussions here it appears the whole country is not on the same 
page as central Government, so that some states rebel from Central Government 
regulation. For example there was talk of West Bengal not accepting UDID 
procedure or some sort. I'm in Mathura Vrindavana. Is there any 
location-specific context I should be aware of here?

Thanks friends.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

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Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

Yamuna,
the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st July 
master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.

On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:
> The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope 
> for the best. Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: AccessIndia 
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Better to send in english only
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently 
> well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This 
> will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
> To: AccessIndia  <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Well written. Lets take it forward
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
>
>
>
> I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I 
> plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the 
> letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or 
> professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused 
> about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter. 
> Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the 
> English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter 
> is below. Thanks.
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi 
> script after the English below, using Google Translate.
>
> Dear Shashanki,
>
>
>
> This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer 
> formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife 
> Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.
>
>
>
> As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to 
> close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have 
> acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.
>
>
>
> Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish 
> to use my own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. 
> Previously when we opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that 
> my wife must sign all my documents. I have since learnt that as per 
> RBI guidelines, people who cannot use pen signatures such as the 
> blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an alternate form of signature 
> including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail of this option only 
> to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
> individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, 
> affording me the 

RE: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Signature required for banking facilities?)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Wow Vaibhav, you are observant really - you caught that one - good catch!
Fortunately I linked to the correct circular, but I should have linked to the 
paragraph as a "this page link" specifically like so:

https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_ViewMasCirculardetails.aspx?id=9862#9

Any way too late - I already sent it yesterday, but they are probably not as 
efficient as you are to catch the mistake!  But let's hope they are 
scared enough that a blind person is not usually some couch potato who can take 
anything one throws at us. I think the worse thing people do with persons with 
disabilities is to relegate us to the status of living entity with lower 
consciousness, much like animals, even if they do not realize they are doing 
it. In fact I know people who do this even though they do it in a kind-hearted 
way, much like a child will take good care of a bird in a cage.
And as usual I digress.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Vaibhav Bhandari
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 11:16 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

Yamuna,
the part where you've quoted from Section 2(1)(A), it is not in the 1st July 
master circular; it is from the 1st October 2018 master circular.

On 12/14/23, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)  wrote:
> The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope 
> for the best. Thanks.
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: AccessIndia 
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Better to send in english only
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul,
>
> Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently 
> well? If you can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This 
> will be my first sort-of activist action in India! Quite nervous.
>
>
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>  [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> ] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
> To: AccessIndia  <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
> Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required 
> for banking facilities?)
>
>
>
> Well written. Lets take it forward
>
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
> mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi Rahul and all on this thread,
>
>
>
> I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I 
> plan to send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the 
> letter to see if it makes sense in the context of legal or 
> professional style letters in the Indian context. Don’t be confused 
> about my name: I used my legal birth documents name in the letter. 
> Also please see if the translation into Hindi which follows after the 
> English, makes sense – the translation was done by Google translate.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter 
> is below. Thanks.
>
> Yamuna Jivana dasa
>
>
>
> Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi 
> script after the English below, using Google Translate.
>
> Dear Shashanki,
>
>
>
> This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer 
> formerly from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife 
> Sherry Ann Khandoo. I trust you are well.
>
>
>
> As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to 
> close my NRI account and convert to local account. I also now have 
> acquired Aadhaar card to facilitate this process.
>
>
>
> Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish 
> to use my own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. 
> Previously when we opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that 
> my wife must sign all my documents. I have since learnt that as per 
> RBI guidelines, people who cannot use pen signatures such as the 
> blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an alternate form of signature 
> including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail of this option only 
> to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
> individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, 
> affordi

RE: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

The consultant hardly speaks English. Still, I’ll send it off and hope for the 
best. Thanks.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 9:39 PM
To: AccessIndia 
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

 

Better to send in english only 

 

On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 9:28 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul,

Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently well? If you 
can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This will be my first sort-of 
activist action in India! Quite nervous.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in>  
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> 
] On Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
To: AccessIndia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

 

Well written. Lets take it forward 

 

On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul and all on this thread,

 

I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I plan to 
send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the letter to see if 
it makes sense in the context of legal or professional style letters in the 
Indian context. Don’t be confused about my name: I used my legal birth 
documents name in the letter. Also please see if the translation into Hindi 
which follows after the English, makes sense – the translation was done by 
Google translate.

 

Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter is below. 
Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi script 
after the English below, using Google Translate.

Dear Shashanki,

 

This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer formerly 
from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife Sherry Ann Khandoo. I 
trust you are well.

 

As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to close my NRI 
account and convert to local account. I also now have acquired Aadhaar card to 
facilitate this process.

 

Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish to use my 
own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. Previously when we 
opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that my wife must sign all my 
documents. I have since learnt that as per RBI guidelines, people who cannot 
use pen signatures such as the blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an 
alternate form of signature including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail 
of this option only to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, affording me 
the right to exercise my own choice and in terms of human rights afforded by 
Indian legislation which I choose to avail of. For me it is a question of 
dignity, wherein I stand in support of people with disabilities at large.

 

In support of my own case, please find the following National legislation and 
RBI Banking circular references for your information:

 

1.   Paragraph 9 and 10 of RBI Master circular on customer service in Banks 
dated 1st July 2015:

section 2(1)(A):

iv) If a Blind / visually challenged person is illiterate, or literate but 
unable to sign uniformly, his thumb impression should be obtained as a rule on 
the account opening form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms and all 
the other precautions prescribed for the opening and conduct of accounts of 
illiterate depositors will be followed.

v) However, if a Blind / visually challenged person is literate and he is in a 
position to sign uniformly, he may put his signature on the account opening 
form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms.

 

Please see:

https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_ViewMasCirculardetails.aspx?id=9862

 

2. Banking facilities for senior citizens and differently abled persons dated 
9th November 2017:

3.7: Wherever thumb or toe impression of the old/sick pensioner is obtained, it 
should be identified by two independent witnesses known to the bank, one of 
whom should be a responsible bank official. 

 


Please find the “BANKING ON ACCESSIBILITY” document attached.


 

Kindly discuss all of the above with your branch manager Ravinder Singh and 
provide me with feedback as soon as possible.

 

Thank you.

 

Yoganathan Khandoo

प्रिय शशांकी,

यह योगनाथन खंडू है, आपका एनआरआई खाताधारक नेत्रहीन ग्राहक जो पहले दक्षिण अफ्रीका 
का रहने वाला था। मैंने अपनी पत्नी शेरी एन खंडू के साथ अपना खाता खोला। आशा है के 
तुम ठीक हो।

 

चूँकि मैं एक वर्ष से अधिक समय से वृन्दावन में 

RE: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi Rahul,

Thanks for this feedback. Is the Hindi translation  done decently well? If you 
can confirm this I’m ready to send off the mail. This will be my first sort-of 
activist action in India! Quite nervous.

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Rahul Bhatia
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:32 PM
To: AccessIndia 
Subject: Re: Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for 
banking facilities?)

 

Well written. Lets take it forward 

 

On Thu, 14 Dec, 2023, 5:17 pm Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo), 
mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Rahul and all on this thread,

 

I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I plan to 
send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the letter to see if 
it makes sense in the context of legal or professional style letters in the 
Indian context. Don’t be confused about my name: I used my legal birth 
documents name in the letter. Also please see if the translation into Hindi 
which follows after the English, makes sense – the translation was done by 
Google translate.

 

Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter is below. 
Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi script 
after the English below, using Google Translate.

Dear Shashanki,

 

This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer formerly 
from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife Sherry Ann Khandoo. I 
trust you are well.

 

As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to close my NRI 
account and convert to local account. I also now have acquired Aadhaar card to 
facilitate this process.

 

Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish to use my 
own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. Previously when we 
opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that my wife must sign all my 
documents. I have since learnt that as per RBI guidelines, people who cannot 
use pen signatures such as the blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an 
alternate form of signature including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail 
of this option only to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, affording me 
the right to exercise my own choice and in terms of human rights afforded by 
Indian legislation which I choose to avail of. For me it is a question of 
dignity, wherein I stand in support of people with disabilities at large.

 

In support of my own case, please find the following National legislation and 
RBI Banking circular references for your information:

 

1.   Paragraph 9 and 10 of RBI Master circular on customer service in Banks 
dated 1st July 2015:

section 2(1)(A):

iv) If a Blind / visually challenged person is illiterate, or literate but 
unable to sign uniformly, his thumb impression should be obtained as a rule on 
the account opening form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms and all 
the other precautions prescribed for the opening and conduct of accounts of 
illiterate depositors will be followed.

v) However, if a Blind / visually challenged person is literate and he is in a 
position to sign uniformly, he may put his signature on the account opening 
form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms.

 

Please see:

https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_ViewMasCirculardetails.aspx?id=9862

 

2. Banking facilities for senior citizens and differently abled persons dated 
9th November 2017:

3.7: Wherever thumb or toe impression of the old/sick pensioner is obtained, it 
should be identified by two independent witnesses known to the bank, one of 
whom should be a responsible bank official. 

 


Please find the “BANKING ON ACCESSIBILITY” document attached.


 

Kindly discuss all of the above with your branch manager Ravinder Singh and 
provide me with feedback as soon as possible.

 

Thank you.

 

Yoganathan Khandoo

प्रिय शशांकी,

यह योगनाथन खंडू है, आपका एनआरआई खाताधारक नेत्रहीन ग्राहक जो पहले दक्षिण अफ्रीका 
का रहने वाला था। मैंने अपनी पत्नी शेरी एन खंडू के साथ अपना खाता खोला। आशा है के 
तुम ठीक हो।

 

चूँकि मैं एक वर्ष से अधिक समय से वृन्दावन में रह रहा हूँ, अब मैं अपना एनआरआई 
खाता बंद करना चाहता हूँ और स्थानीय खाते में परिवर्तित होना चाहता हूँ। इस 
प्रक्रिया को सुविधाजनक बनाने के लिए मैंने अब आधार कार्ड भी हासिल कर लिया है।

 

ऐसा करने से पहले, मैं स्पष्ट करना चाहता हूं कि अपने स्थानीय खाते के लिए मैं सभी 
खाता खोलने वाले दस्तावेजों पर हस्ताक्षर करने के लिए अपने फिंगरप्रिंट का उपयोग 
करना चाहता हूं। पहले जब हमने अपना एनआरआई खाता खोला था तो आपने सुझाव दिया था कि 
मेरी पत्नी को मेरे सभी दस्तावेजों पर हस्ताक्षर करने होंगे। तब से मुझे पता चला 
है कि आरबीआई दिशानिर्देशों के अनुसार, जो लोग अंधे, अनपढ़ या विकलांग लोगों जैसे 
पेन हस्ताक्षर का उपयोग नहीं कर सकते हैं, वे फिंगरप्रिंट हस्ताक्ष

Here's a formal letter (was RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi Rahul and all on this thread,

 

I have drafted a letter to the bank official here at ICICI which I plan to 
send. First I would appreciate if you could look through the letter to see if 
it makes sense in the context of legal or professional style letters in the 
Indian context. Don’t be confused about my name: I used my legal birth 
documents name in the letter. Also please see if the translation into Hindi 
which follows after the English, makes sense – the translation was done by 
Google translate.

 

Any suggestions to change please feel free to let me know. The letter is below. 
Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

Please note for your convenience this letter is translated to Hindi script 
after the English below, using Google Translate.

Dear Shashanki,

 

This is Yoganathan Khandoo, your NRI account holder blind customer formerly 
from South Africa. I opened my account along with my wife Sherry Ann Khandoo. I 
trust you are well.

 

As I have been living in Vrindavan for over a year, I now wish to close my NRI 
account and convert to local account. I also now have acquired Aadhaar card to 
facilitate this process.

 

Before doing this, I wish to clarify that for my local account I wish to use my 
own fingerprint to sign all account opening documents. Previously when we 
opened my NRI account it was suggested by you that my wife must sign all my 
documents. I have since learnt that as per RBI guidelines, people who cannot 
use pen signatures such as the blind, illiterate or dyslectic may use an 
alternate form of signature including fingerprint signatures. I wish to avail 
of this option only to assert my dignity of independence as a differently abled 
individual. It places me as a male authority over my own family, affording me 
the right to exercise my own choice and in terms of human rights afforded by 
Indian legislation which I choose to avail of. For me it is a question of 
dignity, wherein I stand in support of people with disabilities at large.

 

In support of my own case, please find the following National legislation and 
RBI Banking circular references for your information:

 

1.   Paragraph 9 and 10 of RBI Master circular on customer service in Banks 
dated 1st July 2015:

section 2(1)(A):

iv) If a Blind / visually challenged person is illiterate, or literate but 
unable to sign uniformly, his thumb impression should be obtained as a rule on 
the account opening form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms and all 
the other precautions prescribed for the opening and conduct of accounts of 
illiterate depositors will be followed.

v) However, if a Blind / visually challenged person is literate and he is in a 
position to sign uniformly, he may put his signature on the account opening 
form, pay-in slips and the withdrawal order forms.

 

Please see:

https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/BS_ViewMasCirculardetails.aspx?id=9862

 

2. Banking facilities for senior citizens and differently abled persons dated 
9th November 2017:

3.7: Wherever thumb or toe impression of the old/sick pensioner is obtained, it 
should be identified by two independent witnesses known to the bank, one of 
whom should be a responsible bank official. 

 


Please find the “BANKING ON ACCESSIBILITY” document attached.


 

Kindly discuss all of the above with your branch manager Ravinder Singh and 
provide me with feedback as soon as possible.

 

Thank you.

 

Yoganathan Khandoo

प्रिय शशांकी,

यह योगनाथन खंडू है, आपका एनआरआई खाताधारक नेत्रहीन ग्राहक जो पहले दक्षिण अफ्रीका 
का रहने वाला था। मैंने अपनी पत्नी शेरी एन खंडू के साथ अपना खाता खोला। आशा है के 
तुम ठीक हो।

 

चूँकि मैं एक वर्ष से अधिक समय से वृन्दावन में रह रहा हूँ, अब मैं अपना एनआरआई 
खाता बंद करना चाहता हूँ और स्थानीय खाते में परिवर्तित होना चाहता हूँ। इस 
प्रक्रिया को सुविधाजनक बनाने के लिए मैंने अब आधार कार्ड भी हासिल कर लिया है।

 

ऐसा करने से पहले, मैं स्पष्ट करना चाहता हूं कि अपने स्थानीय खाते के लिए मैं सभी 
खाता खोलने वाले दस्तावेजों पर हस्ताक्षर करने के लिए अपने फिंगरप्रिंट का उपयोग 
करना चाहता हूं। पहले जब हमने अपना एनआरआई खाता खोला था तो आपने सुझाव दिया था कि 
मेरी पत्नी को मेरे सभी दस्तावेजों पर हस्ताक्षर करने होंगे। तब से मुझे पता चला 
है कि आरबीआई दिशानिर्देशों के अनुसार, जो लोग अंधे, अनपढ़ या विकलांग लोगों जैसे 
पेन हस्ताक्षर का उपयोग नहीं कर सकते हैं, वे फिंगरप्रिंट हस्ताक्षर सहित 
हस्ताक्षर के वैकल्पिक रूप का उपयोग कर सकते हैं। मैं एक दिव्यांग व्यक्ति के रूप 
में अपनी स्वतंत्रता की गरिमा को बनाए रखने के लिए ही इस विकल्प का लाभ उठाना 
चाहता हूं। यह मुझे अपने ही परिवार पर एक पुरुष प्राधिकारी के रूप में स्थापित 
करता है, मुझे अपनी पसंद का उपयोग करने का अधिकार देता है और भारतीय कानून द्वारा 
प्रदत्त मानवाधिकारों के संदर्भ में जिसका मैं लाभ उठाना चाहता हूं। मेरे लिए यह 
गरिमा का सवाल है, जिसमें मैं बड़े पैमाने पर विकलांग लोगों के समर्थन में खड़ा 
हूं।

 

मेरे अपने मामले के समर्थन में, कृपया अपनी जानकारी के लिए निम्नलिखित राष्ट्रीय 
कानून और आरबीआई बैंकिंग परिपत्र संदर्भ देखें:

 

1. बैंकों में ग्राहक सेवा पर आरबीआई मास्टर

RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Dear friends,
When I signed up for my ICICI NRI bank account, the official here in Vrindavan 
branch refused to allow me to sign, she insisted my wife will sign on my behalf 
for the account opening documents.
Now that I have Aadhaar card, I am entitled to a local bank account. I will be 
going to the same branch to convert my account from NRI to local bank account. 
However in doing so, I would like to sign my own bank account opening documents 
for the local account using my thumb impression. From past experience I know 
she will not allow me to do so, unless she is educated about rights of people 
with disabilities in terms of banking legislation.
I have the name and phone number of the banking official, as well as the name 
of the branch manager. Is there someone on this list preferably with some 
banking authority, who could speak to her prior to my visit? She knows English 
but I believe not too well. Please contact me if someone here can help. I 
hesitate to send the banking official's contact info on this public list.
Thanks friends. I will be grateful for any help.

Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana dasa



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RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

It's wonderful that you had good results with your friend. Each small win is a 
big win for the whole blind community. We must celebrate each others' success 
by feeling glad in our hearts for each other's success against discrimination. 
The legal people among us will have better luck if we keep one heart as a blind 
community, because collective consciousness helps collective goals, even on a 
subtle level.

God be with us all.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 6:07 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?

you are right sir, but what to do, without any document, if you will approach 
to the higher authority, they will try to deny, that there is no such 
application received. I had encountered the same while helping out one of my 
completely blind friend. later I told hhim to give a loan application with the 
quotation and fill all the details to purchase car and let the bank deny. but, 
finally they have sanctioned and disbursed the loan.


On 12/9/2023 11:33 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:
> Yes that's excellent advice I did not realize is possible here - apply 
> electronically and have them reject it that way on record. Brilliant. Still, 
> thereafter you need to have somewhere to take that evidence to who can hold 
> them accountable anyway, and without you giving an arm and a leg to 
> accomplish.
>
> I've learnt the hard way that while I might get excited about collecting 
> evidence, often the channels we have don't really care about justice. That 
> happened when I lost my job at First National Bank in South Africa. They 
> first appeared to innocently rename my role as back-office assistant by first 
> narrowing it down to switchboard operator, then revoking that as a bank 
> function which gives way to IVR systems.
> I recorded my exit interview which proved they were only box-ticking past 
> accessibility requirements. Still, I could not fight because they had money 
> and power and I had none.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR 
> VERMA
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:33 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?
>
> Apply for banking facility you want on their prescribed format, and let them 
> deny. you can ask them to reject your application on writing.
>
>
> On 12/9/2023 9:43 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:
>> You know these front-office staff will never comply and give a written 
>> letter stating such. They are not under obligation to provide such a letter 
>> and so they won't in the name of having the next client to see. It's not a 
>> useful dynamic. Better to get the name of the person and officials here 
>> might be able to take it on. Good luck.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR 
>> VERMA
>> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:16 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?
>>
>> demand a written reply for denial of banking services on the basis of thumb 
>> impression.
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/2023 11:49 PM, Vaibhav Bhandari wrote:
>>> Good Evening Everyone,
>>> Just a few months ago, I had gone to an SBI branch to try to open my 
>>> account and they told me that thumb print would not be accepted for 
>>> opening the bank account and availing facilities like debit card, 
>>> internet banking, checkbook, etc., I would need to know how to sign 
>>> or else it would be clasified under some illiteracy clause. It's 
>>> necessary to understand here that I haven't any experience in 
>>> signing and hadn't required doing so until now. The helper that was 
>>> explaining me all this also said that they haven't even allowed 
>>> their visually impared employees to use internet banking because they 
>>> couldn't sign.
>>> So after returning, I tried doing some research, where in I found 
>>> that there is a consensus among the various sites that such 
>>> facilities cannot be denied to people with visual imparement just 
>>> because they cannot sign but I cannot find this written somewhere in 
>>> the banking rules. So, if someone could clarify this for me, it'd be 
>>> really helpful.
>>>

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RE: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Yes that's excellent advice I did not realize is possible here - apply 
electronically and have them reject it that way on record. Brilliant. Still, 
thereafter you need to have somewhere to take that evidence to who can hold 
them accountable anyway, and without you giving an arm and a leg to accomplish.

I've learnt the hard way that while I might get excited about collecting 
evidence, often the channels we have don't really care about justice. That 
happened when I lost my job at First National Bank in South Africa. They first 
appeared to innocently rename my role as back-office assistant by first 
narrowing it down to switchboard operator, then revoking that as a bank 
function which gives way to IVR systems.
I recorded my exit interview which proved they were only box-ticking past 
accessibility requirements. Still, I could not fight because they had money and 
power and I had none.

-Original Message-
From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:33 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?

Apply for banking facility you want on their prescribed format, and let them 
deny. you can ask them to reject your application on writing.


On 12/9/2023 9:43 AM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo) wrote:
> You know these front-office staff will never comply and give a written letter 
> stating such. They are not under obligation to provide such a letter and so 
> they won't in the name of having the next client to see. It's not a useful 
> dynamic. Better to get the name of the person and officials here might be 
> able to take it on. Good luck.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] 
> On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:16 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Singnature required for banking facilities?
>
> demand a written reply for denial of banking services on the basis of thumb 
> impression.
>
>
> On 12/8/2023 11:49 PM, Vaibhav Bhandari wrote:
>> Good Evening Everyone,
>> Just a few months ago, I had gone to an SBI branch to try to open my
>> account and they told me that thumb print would not be accepted for
>> opening the bank account and availing facilities like debit card,
>> internet banking, checkbook, etc., I would need to know how to sign or
>> else it would be clasified under some illiteracy clause. It's
>> necessary to understand here that I haven't any experience in signing
>> and hadn't required doing so until now. The helper that was explaining
>> me all this also said that they haven't even allowed their visually
>> impared employees to use internet banking because they couldn't sign.
>> So after returning, I tried doing some research, where in I found that
>> there is a consensus among the various sites that such facilities
>> cannot be denied to people with visual imparement just because they
>> cannot sign but I cannot find this written somewhere in the banking
>> rules. So, if someone could clarify this for me, it'd be really
>> helpful.
>>

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Unusual reading access preferences (was RE: [AI] Scanners or cameras for large books OCR?)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi Pranav,

Thanks for a lot of useful info here.
You asked which books I wish to read: Much of the books I look to read are not 
easily accessible for download, because they derive from platforms that 
challenge the status quo.
If I start here it wouldn't end, and Harish as our list moderator would be 
pressured to bark me off the list!
But just to give you an idea of the unusual kind of content I read not readily 
accessible:

Alternative treatment to diabetes or other health challenges which big pharma 
derides because it challenges their profit-model. Heard of Master Mineral 
Solution by Jim Humble? It's banned in the US but very amazing for over-all 
health. I use it and it keeps me very healthy otherwise. Can't find it in India.

The question of vaccines in general as a killer of the human race. Covid 
vaccines only tip the scale of a long history.

The attempt of the current globalist world-order to hide other civilizations 
from us by portraying our world as an isolated globe spinning in outer-space, 
when in fact it belongs to a multi-dimentional planetary-system 4 billion miles 
in diameter (this is the Vedic version rarely corroborated by explorers like 
the Norwegian Olaf Jensen from the 1800s who travelled far along the north pole 
to another civilization.

The denial of early aptitude-based educational system of the West which 
introduced undirected detailed topics into education which took influence even 
here in India which deliberately aims to dumb down our children into dosile 
consumers, and the global powers behind such a "Jack of all trades, master of 
none" as it happens in our high-schools.

The powers master-mining the globalist world-order expertly coordinated by the 
highest proponent, called Kali in the Vedic world-view, Iblis in Islam  or the 
devil in Christianity - who are these agents of that authority of this age? The 
Rothschild's are no accident in their influence!

Call me crazy if you will, but even the least thoughtful people in society 
these days will admit that something is seriously wrong with our civilization. 
The fact that this is true the world-over, from law enforcement to food to 
education and everything inbetween tells us there's more going on with money 
only as a temptation that meets the eye. Better have blind eyes if you won't 
see it! Pardon the pun for this list. And that keeps me right on-topic for this 
list! 

Still I'll admit that AI has reached fascinating levels of advancement, even 
for me to contemplate while having a technical proclivity and interest. The 
level at which it can appear to "understand difficult questions, research 
appropriately on it, "think" and respond thoughtfully is mind-blowing. GPT4 is 
now somewhat accessible via Bing BTW. Google's Bard has far more access to 
Google-based up-to-date content though.

Yes. My E-mail has poked into every fascet of life. That's my fickle mind that 
makes me so unpopular. Perhaps most people silently dislikes me for this - it 
does sadden the heart I'll admit. My eagerness to share things I know about may 
appear to be pride, arrogance Etc, but I honestly say it is none of that. I'm 
just passionate about things and have eagerness enough to keep me chattering 
about everything, unable to control my speech. This is a fault. The 
Bhakti-upadesamrta-sindhu by Rupa Goswami proposes that among other sensual 
controls, the limiting of one's speech to the essentials is a saintly quality 
that displays purity enough to influence the world towards spiritual pursuit. 
I've got a long way to go. But since I'm trying to practice spiritual life, I 
can only hope I touch others with some value with the things I have to say.

Anyway now you know why I would like to find dedicated ways to read printed 
texts.

Kind regards,
Yamuna Jivana dasa

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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:27 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Scanners or cameras for large books OCR?

Hi Yamuna,

Camera scanners are quite good. Ditch the Kurzweil 1000.  There are add-ons for 
nvda that allow you to interface with scanners. Jaws does so natively I 
believe. 

You can still buy fineReader which is the best OCR in terms of accuracy. 

Having said all the above, have a chat with the SaralX sales team, NAB Delhi, 
the people at XRCVC,  who may have better ideas. 

I too have been looking for scanners that support at least a3 paper or cameras 
with a wide angle view. 

There are plenty of those around as well, some have been developed in India. 
For a4 text, phone cameras are enough. The tricky part though is mounting them 
and getting the lighting right. You can go for a dedicated phone scanner stand. 

What kinds of books do you want to read? I ask because at least for fiction, 
the majority of books are available on amazon kindle or are being sold by 
individu

My Thoughts on Screen-reader accessibility (was RE: [AI] Which is the best bank with regard to accessibility)

[Yamuna Jivana Dasa (Yoganathan Khandoo)]

Hi Folks,

It may be obvious to some but still worth noting from time to time:

Just because a website is accessible does not imply the company is 
accessibility friendly. It only means the developers happened to use standard 
controls and native off-screen models  in apps which screen-readers know how to 
navigate.

When they make modifications to the controls from their developer toolkit, then 
they leave the screen-reader unaware of such modifications. An example of this 
is ICICI Bank’s App. They have implemented multiple tabs, only the last of 
which is the main one we use for actual banking purposes called “Transact”. 
Talkback does not know it is an independently activatable item. Prudence 
somehow can see that it is.

 

There are two important keyplayers that need to participate in accessibility, 
the first of which is more important in my view:

1.   Screen-reader  developers. They need to keep adding newer standard 
control types into the screen-reader’s awareness portfolio. They also need to 
include newer off-screen models that gain in popularity. They have the most 
important part to play, failing which lobbiests for accessibility will have a 
harder time at pulling companies into conformity. If the screen-reader 
developer keeps up with the more popular components of the developer toolkit 
controls then, as we have already observed, interfaces of companies become 
accessible without even knowing or caring about accessibility. This is true for 
any screen-reader on any operating system, both computer or mobile devices.

2.The software developer. These guys are the hardest to reach by 
accessibility lobbyists. They function behind a money-focused corporate 
bureaucracy. Yet, if they break accessibility design simply by modifying 
interfaces for visual appeal without breaking accessibility, then the damage is 
done, and fixing the problem becomes a messy reach up the corporate ladder, 
often involving legal pressure to force decision-makers at the top to simply 
give the order. Often they simply don’t care because they don’t feel they have 
to. Arrogance can only be crushed under pressure and does not lend itself to 
mere good naturedness.

 

Even while knowing these things, for me to get involved is a disaster because I 
am the worse diplomat you can find. Even for my own needs I  have perhaps 
frustrated those in the position to help me by leaning too strongly on their 
support. I apologise for that, but in absence of good judgement for when or how 
to navigate difficult situations I tend to pressure too much those who might 
otherwise care. I offer a public apology to people like Amar Jain on this list 
whom I probably drove off the wall while struggling to get Aadhaar during an 
urgent need time of my life. Unfortunately my Aadhaar is now here, but, too 
good, too late. Such is life.

Anyway I digress as usual.

 

Kind regards,

 

Yamuna Jivana dasa

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 7:03 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Which is the best bank with regard to accessibility

 

Hi,

 

The majority of HDFC Bank’s services are accessible.

 

I have not seen any explicit commitment to accessibility but as of this 
writing, I have not had a problem. Their newsletters though are primarily 
graphics based.

Pranav

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