Re: [AFMUG] OT f**king microsoft

[Jesse Dupont]

That's going away anyway. You need to switch to Google's Drive File Stream 
desktop client.


From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:34:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT f**king microsoft

Latest windows update turns off Google Drive Sync!  Arrgh!

Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

[Jesse Dupont]

Yes, it is no longer paid and is the offshoot of what used to be a paid 
project. Honestly, GenieACS looks like the better open source ACS; certainly a 
newer UI.


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 6:15:37 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

Isn't FreeACS dead though?  Did community take it over?

We ended up deciding to go the paid route.  The ACS company we are with... I 
have mixed feelings so don't want to give a good or bad review yet.  But, I'm 
still curious about what others are using in case we decide to dump them.

-Steve D

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Jesse DuPont 
<jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>> wrote:
I loaded up FreeACS and put the URL for it in my Telrad UE's and also a 
Mikrotik with the TR-069 package on it. I've got my ACS configured to allow 
anything so every UE and the Mikrotik showed up in the ACS and I can see the 
stats from the last time each device updated. I did make a "profile" for the 
Telrad so it would ask for certain fields, but I did it by having the ACS ask 
for all fields and then adding the ones I wanted to the profile; same for the 
Mikrotik.

Other than getting them to show up in the ACS, I haven't done anything 
constructive like firmware update, but I'll be testing it with the Mikrotik. I 
guess it does log syslog entries to the database.

It looks like I'd have to do some DBA wizardry to get the UE stats into 
something I can graph over time (like an RRD or other DB) because it appears 
that only the most recent stat is kept in the database (that is, it's not a 
time series field maybe?). I suppose with a little reading, I could get them 
into InfluxDB or something like that, trend them in Grafana.

A few screen shots attached.

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On 5/2/18 12:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields 
available, and you have to have a different template for each one.  The open 
source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're doing and 
create templates.  In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate their ACS with 
templates.

The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's 
cloud based ACS.  I don't know if they support any devices other than their 
own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege!



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To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a third 
party one?



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From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
He skipped the mangle/queue tree part of the link below and is just
looking at simple queue w/PCQ (step 3).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/18/18 12:31 PM, Justin Marshall
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
If I use simple
queues, how could I go about giving the wifi users equal
access to the 105M?  If there are potentially 200+ users,
wouldn’t  I need to make the queues ~512k/512k, or am I
misunderstanding something?
 
 

  
From:
Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X
bandwidth is available for a given device
  

 
There are
simple ways of getting this done, not using your queue
tree.  Simple queues are simple and basic. I would use
those.  Give me a call if you need further help though.

 

   
   
  Dennis Burgess,
Mikrotik Certified Trainer

  Author of "Learn
  RouterOS- Second Edition”
  
  Link
Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik &
  WISP Support Services
  
  Office: 314-735-0270 
  Website:
  http://www.linktechs.net
  
  Create Wireless
  Coverage’s with
  www.towercoverage.com
  

 

  
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com>
  On Behalf Of Justin Marshall
  Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 12:30 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth
  is available for a given device
  

 
Hi,
 
I have a customer with a 120M/120M
  connection.  This is for a church that usually has 100-250
  users on wifi at any given time.
 
I need to make sure that at least 15M/15M
  is available at all times for a given streaming device, but I
  also want to make sure any wifi users have full access to the
  other 105M.  What is the best way to go about this?
 
Is there a way to use PCQ to accomplish
  this? Dedicate 105/105 to PCQ which would leave the remaining
  15M available to the other device (e.g. if i moved the
  streaming device to a different subnet)?
  
I see an example on how to see a max limit
  for each PCQ user, but I can't seem to find any that set a max
  limit for all PCQ users.  (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ_Examples)
 
Is there a better way to go about this?
  Marking packets?  If so, does anyone know of a good tutorial?
 
Any suggestion would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Justin
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yes, your example using the max-limit is right.

To let them all fight for it (essentially), you could only set the
max-limit, target=, and not use a PCQ, then it
would essentially let all the users share (mostly equally) the
available 105 Mbps. Setting a PCQ for each is probably the better
answer. It could feel sluggish for a bit for new connections if a
single user were using all of it, but you can set the per-connection
rate pretty high if you want to. At some point, you'll hit the 105
Mbps limit and it won't matter...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/18/18 12:02 PM, Justin Marshall
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Just to make
sure I understand correctly… (kind of going off the example
located at
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ_Examples)
 
Adding the
max-limit=105M/105M in step 3 would limit all users handled
by the PCQ to 105M?
e.g.
/queue simple
add max-limit=105M/105M
name=PCQ_Queue queue=PCQ_Upload/PCQ_Download
target=192.168.1.0/24

 
In step 2 of
that example I link, they show how to limit each user to
64k/32k.

/queue type add
name="PCQ_download" kind=pcq pcq-rate=64000
pcq-classifier=dst-address
/queue type add
name="PCQ_upload" kind=pcq pcq-rate=32000
pcq-classifier=src-address
 
Is there a way
to write that to allow them the full 105M if they were the
only user? (or ½ that if there are 2, 1/3 if 3, etc)  Just
not specify a pcq-rate?
 
Thanks
 

  
From:
Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
    On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X
bandwidth is available for a given device
  

 
You can setup
  a PCQ for WiFi subnet as you described, but also set the
  max-limit for both down and up on the PCQ and it will
  distribute bandwidth among all IPs in the PCQ, limited to the
  per-IP rate in the PCQ and overall limited to the max-limit,
  which you'd set to 105 Mbps. Then if you still want to, you
  can have a simple queue for the streaming device (which would
  make it easy to see how much the streamer is actually using).
  
  You can also do all this with the queue tree, but will be more
  complicated.
    
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  On 4/18/18 11:30 AM, Justin
  Marshall wrote:


  Hi,
   
  I have a customer with a 120M/120M
connection.  This is for a church that usually has 100-250
users on wifi at any given time.
   
  I need to make sure that at least 15M/15M
is available at all times for a given streaming device, but
I also want to make sure any wifi users have full access to
the other 105M.  What is the best way to go about this?
   
  Is there a way to use PCQ to accomplish
this? Dedicate 105/105 to PCQ which would leave the
remaining 15M available to the other device (e.g. if i moved
the streaming device to a different subnet)?

  I see an example on how to see a max
limit for each PCQ user, but I can't seem to find any that
set a max limit for all PCQ users.  (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ_Examples)
   
  Is there a better way to go about this?
Marking packets?  If so, does anyone know of a good
tutorial?
   
  Any suggestion would be appreciated.
   
  Thanks,
  Justin

 
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik: Making usre X bandwidth is available for a given device

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
You can setup a PCQ for WiFi subnet as you described, but also set
the max-limit for both down and up on the PCQ and it will distribute
bandwidth among all IPs in the PCQ, limited to the per-IP rate in
the PCQ and overall limited to the max-limit, which you'd set to 105
Mbps. Then if you still want to, you can have a simple queue for the
streaming device (which would make it easy to see how much the
streamer is actually using).

You can also do all this with the queue tree, but will be more
complicated.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/18/18 11:30 AM, Justin Marshall
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi,
 
I have a customer with a 120M/120M
  connection.  This is for a church that usually has 100-250
  users on wifi at any given time.
 
I need to make sure that at least 15M/15M
  is available at all times for a given streaming device, but I
  also want to make sure any wifi users have full access to the
  other 105M.  What is the best way to go about this?
 
Is there a way to use PCQ to accomplish
  this? Dedicate 105/105 to PCQ which would leave the remaining
  15M available to the other device (e.g. if i moved the
  streaming device to a different subnet)?
  
I see an example on how to see a max limit
  for each PCQ user, but I can't seem to find any that set a max
  limit for all PCQ users. 
  (https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ_Examples)
 
Is there a better way to go about this?
  Marking packets?  If so, does anyone know of a good tutorial?
 
Any suggestion would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Justin
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Help!!!

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I've got one...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/12/18 2:14 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  Need 6 AirFiber 11fx high band duplexors asap? 
Who has them? 

Jaime Solorza
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth requirement

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
At my telco day job, we have several circuits to cell sites; most
are 100-200 Mbps capacity on 1G phy, but they all aggregate to a
pair of GigE waves to their MSC. Rural north-central Wyoming.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/2/18 9:48 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  The information he has is probably four
years old.

They're moving to dark fiber or tubes of dark fiber. A Sprint
tower can move 1.3 gigs, with some doing more.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest Internet
Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From:
  "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 9:03:07 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Typical Cell Tower bandwidth
  requirement
  
  I was talking to a Spectrum employee yesterday
as he was installing a 1gig fiber circuit for me and he
started talking about how un-common it was to be seeing a 1
gig DIA circuit installed so i said well what about the cell
phone towers, don't those all have a couple gigs to them and
he said. "Oh no those usually only have 100meg fiber feeds
to them." I was like whoa, thats all? And he said "yeah all
the Sprint, T-mobile, and At towers that he's been to
are all like 100meg and he's like usually the Verizon ones
are about 300meg circuits."


Does that really sound possible that a cell tower is
  only using that much bandwidth? We are pretty rural here
  county population is only 45,000 and the city populations
  are only about 12,000. Can this really be true? And if so
  why can't a WISP sell a backup circuit to a cell tower
  with some Air Fiber equipment?
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Streaming service included

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We are marketing "Netflix free for 1 year with new sign up on 1 year
contract". We are accomplishing this by buying a Netflix gift card
equivalent to 1 year standard Netflix service and giving it to the
consumer to apply to their own Netflix account.

We cannot seem to find any ISP program with Netflix and those at
Netflix we've talked to don't seem to know of one so it seems to be
a back channel T-Mobile/Netflix thing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/6/18 4:13 PM, Brian Sullivan
  wrote:

T-Mobile
  gives away Netflix.  Sprint gives away Hulu.  Others will likely
  follow.
  
  Has anyone here looked into including a streaming service for
  their customers?
  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] IPv6

[Jesse Dupont]

Dual stack.


From: Af  on behalf of Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:26:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv6

Yeah Dual Stack seemed like the obvious route to go.  Then I read T-Mobile went 
to this XLAT stuff.on second pass it still seems like dual stack is a 
no-brainer.



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/2/2018 5:13:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] IPv6

Yes

There is really no extra work or expense involved in Dual Stack.  Just turn it 
on and let the customers use what they will use.

You have to accommodate V4 somehow.  We are going to NAT everything in the V4 
world to keep our continuing investment in IPs where it is at.

464xlat seems interesting.  I have been talking about a magic box for a couple 
of years now, but after taking a closer look and actually making progress, DS + 
NAT seems to be the most reasonable as far as cost and a known working solution.

Still waiting for Dennis to invent the magic box.  V6 only everywhere for 
everything inside your network.
Magic box recognizes, diverts and fixes sessions that need access to the old V4 
world.

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] IPv6

If you were starting a new network from the ground up today would you do Dual 
Stack, 464XLAT, or something else?

Re: [AFMUG] PC Out of Band management

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
This works great:

http://a.co/iwiSKho (Lantronic Spider)


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/15/18 8:38 AM,
  can...@believewireless.net wrote:


  
You could get
  an IP KVM for a single PC.
  
  
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Steve
  Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
dual NICs with teamviewer is what i use to
  manage our office rack

  

  On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:25
AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:
This
  sounds like a goofy use case.
  
  Maybe a raspberry pi with a usb NIC?
  
  What are you needing this for?
  

  On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Nate Burke
  <n...@blastcomm.com>
  wrote:
  > I'm looking to put a PC at a site, but I
  want true out of Band management
  > for it, I.E. Be able to turn off the
  Ethernet Interfaces or Change IP
  > Addresses without dropping management
  connectivity. I'm used to working with
  > the Supermicro motherboards built in IPMI
  Functionality, which is awesome,
  > but I just need a simple PC at a site for
  a couple weeks, not a whole
  > server.  Is there a brand/model that
  works well without breaking the bank?
  > VGA video, and USB keyboard/mouse.  It's
  been several years since I've last
  > used one, so I'm sure they are better now
  than they used to be.  They were
  > very flaky then.
  >
  > Nate

  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Sold

[Jesse Dupont]

AItrader.us sold mine automatically and I ended up making 25%.


From: Af  on behalf of Travis Johnson 
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 4:10:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Sold

Hi,

I did some day-trading of bitcoin over the last month. Ended up making
about a 12% return after all the fees, etc. Not too bad, but I'm glad I
made my last sale about a week ago at $19,605.05!

I hope everyone else got out in time.

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Remote generator start options packetflux?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We are working on integrating this right now with our propane
generator (it uses 2-wire start so for our Generac, we had to order
the 2-wire start kit and code from Generac to enable, but it was
free).

http://www.magnum-dimensions.com/auto-generator-start-stand-alone

Caveat - this doesn't meet you requirement of remotely starting it,
but it will start it automatically when the battery voltage drops
below a threshold.

If you PV panels are through a charge controller, you should not
have to turn them off when you're running your AC charger - they can
be on simultaneously, even if the sun comes out.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/20/17 3:30 PM, Brandon Yuchasz
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
We are looking at adding a remote start to
  a generator at an off grid site we have and I am gathering
  information  on options at this point. 
 
Right now we are all Solar at the site. 
  It’s a new site and if / when we draw down batteries beyond
  where we are comfortable we turn go to the site turn off the
  PV and start a generator manually and run a 48v battery
  charger on the bank. It’s a fairly low tech solution right
  now. We log in turn off the PV array and a guy goes out and
  pulls the rope on the generator and batteries start to charge.
  He then leaves and in three hours generator runs out of fuel
  and charging stops. Log back in turn the PV back on and that’s
  the end of the process. 
 
We are considering a few different options
  at the site and I don’t want to complicate this to much by
  offering to much information to start. Ill go into more
  details later but for now I am looking for a way to start a
  (different) propane generator remotely during the dark months.
  Most likely once a week in December and January.  
 
So assuming electric start is an options on
  the generator. What options do I have for throwing that
  “switch” from the office. I am positive I am not the first one
  of us to want to do this.
 
Thoughts everyone? I want to KISS so when I
  am not around others can do this with minimal training.
 
Thanks,
Brandon
 
 
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
:) I love this list.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/7/17 10:49 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


  I dont know, i think this is just a long con. you
joined afmug back in the day just to build a credible profile to
get free 40 dollar bills, youve used some russian interference
technology to fill all the sfmug users news feeds with BC fake
news, and have an army of bots on social media pushing this.


Bitcoin probably doesnt even exist


Im on to you
  
  
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 Alert, alert, danger
  Will Robinson...
  
  I don't care if you use the code - I'm winning either way.
  Besides, the referral was a win for both parties and it's
  only $40 USD equivalent in BTC.


  
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On
  12/7/17 10:39 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

  
  
  is stuff like that whats pushing it at
this pace?
can you imagine how much youll bank if half
  afmug uses your code?
are you a russian bot??
fake news, fake news
  


  On Thu, Dec 7,
  2017 at 11:34 AM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:


  

   You
guys should check out aitrader.us. It
uses a custom algorithm and GDAX (coinbase)
API to do auto-trading for you, based on the
thresholds you set. High-level overview: it
will potentially buy BTC every 4 hours,
based on the moving average and your buy
sensitivity setting. For selling back to
USD, it looks every minute at the BTC value
(compared to USD) and once it falls below
your trailing stop threshold, it issues API
command to trade back to USD.

So during all this, my account auto traded
to BTC yesterday at 4:00 AM and it just
traded back to USD today at 4:34 PM. I
gained 45% and didn't have to babysit it!

Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have
a few thousand USD trading, but unless BTC
has a downward moving average over mutliple
weeks, you'll almost always gain because the
actual BTC value doesn't matter, just the
relative gains between buys and sell.

If you sign up, my referral code is
  BZQECIBCDOZK and we both get $40 USD
put into our accounts.


  
    Jesse
    DuPont

  Network
  Architect
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  Celerity Networks LLC
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Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
He couldn't find a plugin to snag the data directly from GDAX so
that graph is from another exchange.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/7/17 10:47 AM, Jesse DuPont
  wrote:


  
  I'm asking him now...
  
  













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  On 12/7/17 10:40 AM, Travis Johnson
wrote:
  
  

Looks cool but they show the peak in the last 2 hours to be
$15,356... yet GDAX itself shows a peak of $20k during that same
time??

Travis


On 12/7/2017 10:34 AM, Jesse DuPont
  wrote:


  
  You guys should check out aitrader.us. It uses a custom
  algorithm and GDAX (coinbase) API to do auto-trading for you,
  based on the thresholds you set. High-level overview: it will
  potentially buy BTC every 4 hours, based on the moving average
  and your buy sensitivity setting. For selling back to USD, it
  looks every minute at the BTC value (compared to USD) and once
  it falls below your trailing stop threshold, it issues API
  command to trade back to USD.
  
  So during all this, my account auto traded to BTC yesterday at
  4:00 AM and it just traded back to USD today at 4:34 PM. I
  gained 45% and didn't have to babysit it!
  
  Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have a few thousand USD
  trading, but unless BTC has a downward moving average over
  mutliple weeks, you'll almost always gain because the actual
  BTC value doesn't matter, just the relative gains between buys
  and sell.
  
  If you sign up, my referral code is BZQECIBCDOZK and we
  both get $40 USD put into our accounts.
  
  













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  On 12/7/17 9:36 AM, Travis
Johnson wrote:
  
  I
had to jump back in this morning and now we are at $18k. :)
This is nuts. 

Travis 

  
  


  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'm asking him now...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/7/17 10:40 AM, Travis Johnson
  wrote:


  
  Looks cool but they show the peak in the last 2 hours to be
  $15,356... yet GDAX itself shows a peak of $20k during that same
  time??
  
  Travis
  
  
  On 12/7/2017 10:34 AM, Jesse DuPont
wrote:
  
  

You guys should check out aitrader.us. It uses a custom
algorithm and GDAX (coinbase) API to do auto-trading for you,
based on the thresholds you set. High-level overview: it will
potentially buy BTC every 4 hours, based on the moving average
and your buy sensitivity setting. For selling back to USD, it
looks every minute at the BTC value (compared to USD) and once
it falls below your trailing stop threshold, it issues API
command to trade back to USD.

So during all this, my account auto traded to BTC yesterday at
4:00 AM and it just traded back to USD today at 4:34 PM. I
gained 45% and didn't have to babysit it!

Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have a few thousand USD
trading, but unless BTC has a downward moving average over
mutliple weeks, you'll almost always gain because the actual BTC
value doesn't matter, just the relative gains between buys and
sell.

If you sign up, my referral code is BZQECIBCDOZK and we
both get $40 USD put into our accounts.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/7/17 9:36 AM, Travis Johnson
  wrote:

I
  had to jump back in this morning and now we are at $18k. :)
  This is nuts. 
  
  Travis 
  


  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Alert, alert, danger Will Robinson...

I don't care if you use the code - I'm winning either way. Besides,
the referral was a win for both parties and it's only $40 USD
equivalent in BTC.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/7/17 10:39 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


  is stuff like that whats pushing it at this pace?
can you imagine how much youll bank if half afmug uses your
  code?
are you a russian bot??
fake news, fake news
  
  
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 You guys should check
  out aitrader.us. It uses a custom
  algorithm and GDAX (coinbase) API to do auto-trading for
  you, based on the thresholds you set. High-level overview:
  it will potentially buy BTC every 4 hours, based on the
  moving average and your buy sensitivity setting. For
  selling back to USD, it looks every minute at the BTC
  value (compared to USD) and once it falls below your
  trailing stop threshold, it issues API command to trade
  back to USD.
  
  So during all this, my account auto traded to BTC
  yesterday at 4:00 AM and it just traded back to USD today
  at 4:34 PM. I gained 45% and didn't have to babysit it!
  
  Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have a few thousand
  USD trading, but unless BTC has a downward moving average
  over mutliple weeks, you'll almost always gain because the
  actual BTC value doesn't matter, just the relative gains
  between buys and sell.
  
  If you sign up, my referral code is BZQECIBCDOZK
  and we both get $40 USD put into our accounts.
  
  

  Jesse DuPont
  
Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
Celerity Networks LLC
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On
  12/7/17 9:36 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

I had to jump back in this
  morning and now we are at $18k. :) This is nuts. 
  
  Travis 
  


  
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] BTC 18k

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
You guys should check out aitrader.us. It uses a custom algorithm
and GDAX (coinbase) API to do auto-trading for you, based on the
thresholds you set. High-level overview: it will potentially buy BTC
every 4 hours, based on the moving average and your buy sensitivity
setting. For selling back to USD, it looks every minute at the BTC
value (compared to USD) and once it falls below your trailing stop
threshold, it issues API command to trade back to USD.

So during all this, my account auto traded to BTC yesterday at 4:00
AM and it just traded back to USD today at 4:34 PM. I gained 45% and
didn't have to babysit it!

Aitrader.us is $99/mo so you'd need to have a few thousand USD
trading, but unless BTC has a downward moving average over mutliple
weeks, you'll almost always gain because the actual BTC value
doesn't matter, just the relative gains between buys and sell.

If you sign up, my referral code is BZQECIBCDOZK and we both
get $40 USD put into our accounts.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 12/7/17 9:36 AM, Travis Johnson
  wrote:

I
  had to jump back in this morning and now we are at $18k. :) This
  is nuts.
  
  
  Travis
  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] AC AND solar charge controller???

[Jesse Dupont]

If you’re running in a 48v panel config, Tycon makes a 65V 1200W AC power 
supply meant to be parallel to the solar panels. Can feed it and the PV into 
the PV input of your controller and be covered both ways.


From: Af  on behalf of Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 6:23:53 PM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AC AND solar charge controller???

My other thought was to just rectify the AC, perhaps filter it with a capacitor 
or two, and bridge that output with the output of the solar through a couple of 
isolation diodes. The rectifies AC would be at a voltage greater than the solar 
normally, but would drop to zero when the power was out. The diodes would 
prevent them from fighting each other.

-bp

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On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Cassidy B. Larson 
> wrote:
I use an Outback Power FLEXower ONE at my cabin.  Solar charging, and AC input 
for generator when I need it. Automatic Generator Start via their “MATE3” unit 
(and reporting).   It has everything integrated, so you just hang the unit, but 
is probably overkill for what you want.




> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Bill Prince 
> > wrote:
>
> Has anyone seen a charge controller that will take AC input AND solar input?
>
> I know that I've seen ones that combine wind and solar, so there must be some 
> that will allow primary power on AC, and backup/simultaneous input with solar 
> panels?
>
> Purpose is a remote site where we expect more than average AC power outages, 
> but is we could also charge the batteries via solar, we would be good.
>
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

Re: [AFMUG] DHCP Server Redundancy Survey

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Sterling,

When we did DHCP, we did have a pair of centralized servers, both
running ISC DHCP on Linux. The configs on the two servers have to be
nearly identical (except for the declarations about the server ID
and the server role) so I ran an NFS share between them. Each had a
very small, local dhcpd.conf file with the unique portions and then
an include statement for a common file that both servers used for
all their prefixes. The routers would DHCP-RELAY to both servers and
the servers had an algorithm to spread load. In this way, the same
pool was defined on both servers and each knew whether the other
served it or not.

I did not use it for v6-PD, but did for v4 and it worked well.
Failover worked very well, too.

Yes, having the DHCP servers get lease approval from RADIUS would
allow better northbound integration, assuming the billing system
knew which MAC address belonged to which customer.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/31/17 1:59 PM, Sterling Jacobson
  wrote:


  I want to do a more flexible/standard setup for my DHCP handouts.

I hand out public IPv4 and IPv6 dual stack to each customer router from two main routers on my network.

Is it best to create two redundant DHCP servers instead and use DHCP Relay on-net to them?

And how is everyone doing that?

I'm guessing it's probably best to have those two redundant DHCP servers be RADIUS controlled so billing systems can easily integrate with them.



  

Re: [AFMUG] PPPoE: How are you running it?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We run the SMs bridged, but we put the LAN0 port of the SM on a
tagged VLAN (add WLAN0.50 interface, bridge WLAN0.50 and LAN0
together). On that tagged VLAN, we only allow PPPoE connections.
Yes, when a customer resets their router, we have to talk them
through PPPoE config, but at least the router's wizard is detecting
that PPPoE is the only available Internet connection. (Besides, you
still have to talk them through DHCP disable if they reset their
router under your current scenario anyway). Their traffic is
isolated from the CPE and AP management (at L2) and we disallow L3
traffic to infrastructure prefixes at the routers. We really don't
want the CPE's involved in L3 Internet reachability for customer
traffic. Just our philosophy; we treat the SMs as infrastructure,
not customer equipment.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/17/17 9:22 AM, Micah Miller
  wrote:


  Good morning all!

Currently we are running it on the CPE, but are considering moving it
to the customer router.
We were advised to put PPPoE on the CPE and configure the customer
router as an AP (disable dhcp, plug it into a lan port instead of the
wan/internet,etc).
My preference is to bridge the CPE and run it on the customer router,
but I am open to suggestions.

What is your preference?




  

Re: [AFMUG] tiers or packages

[Jesse Dupont]

We have three plans:

10, 20,or 30 Mbps (8 Mbps upload) in one company
8, 16, 25 Mbps (8 Mbps upload) in another company

Either UBNT or LTE (we only go up to 20 on LTE).


From: Af  on behalf of Dave 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 6:52:05 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] tiers or packages

How many on here are offering wireless sustained speeds of 5Mbs or higher?

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Re: [AFMUG] What's next?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
If an outsider can vote...

+1 for 20A shunt
+1 for NTP/GPS server, although I'd just like to see it as a
SiteMonitor module/add-on.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  



  

On 9/14/17 7:33 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  The 12-port GigE PowerInjector+Sync would be the most beneficial
  to me right now to retrofit some smaller enclosures.
  
  20A shunt?
  
  If you have better things to work on, the USB GPS thing is more of
  a want than a need. But I know you said it'd be a small fun
  project for you. Like I said, make it and I'll probably buy 4 or 5
  of them for my NTP servers.
  
  I'm sure there's stuff I'm forgetting, but my brain can't think
  anymore today.
  
  On 9/14/2017 7:33 PM, Forrest
Christian (List Account) wrote:
  
  
We've been shipping rackinjectors for a couple of
  weeks now, and according to staff, all of the rackinjector
  backlog has been shipped and we have 1-2 on the shelf and
  even more to be added to the stock level shortly.  Yay!
  
  
  Just wanted to update everyone on the status here for
what is next.
  
  
  The only product I'm actively working on getting out the
door is the "Medusa Board" for the rackinjector which
basically will do sync over power for the 450m and 450i.  
 I could go into details on where we are in that process,
but that's a topic for another day.
  
  
  I also have some feature additions that need to be made
to the RackInjector.   The initial update will be timed to
correspond to the release of the Medusa board, unless
someone finds a critical bug in the field and we have to
roll a bugfix release.
  
  
  I'm planning on spending some time (as much as is
reasonably needed) regrouping.  I have quite a few things on
my list that we've been putting off doing just because of
hours in the day.   There's a few products which just need a
few hours or TLC before we can start shipping.   There are
some manuals/documentation which need to be done.   There's
a few minor bug fixes in some of the software (more
shortcomings then bugs)...  And we need to figure out what
is next product wise among the numerous product Ideas which
are floating around.
  
  
  So, now would be a great time to remind me about anything
which fits into the categories above that I might not
remember  either via email or at wispapalooza in just
under a month.
  

  
  
  -- 
  

  

  

  

  Forrest
  Christian CEO,
PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address:
  3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT
  59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

  
  

  

  



  

  

  

  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Jesse Dupont]

It's the Tycon ENC-ST-23-14-12.

I did this post a while back, I need to update it...
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Cabinet-Design-Progression/cns-p/885120


From: Af  on behalf of Adam Moffett 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 10:10:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosures

Someone posted the attached pic recently, but I can't remember who.

I was wondering what brand of enclosure that is.  I like the little standoffs 
on the door.

Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

[Jesse Dupont]

How about the Veracity TimeNet Pro? More money than a Pi/BBB with GPS receiver, 
but probably way simpler.


From: Af  on behalf of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:11:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

I'm pretty sure the one I looked at used the GPS receiver in the cell modem to 
supply the time vs. CDMA.



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From: "George Skorup" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 12:28:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

Well, yeah, you can do CDMA for clock sync, too.

I've seen Arduino and Pi add-on cards that contain a GPS receiver and you 
basically feed the 1PPS via GPIO or something like that. I don't really want to 
go there.

I'll keep looking around and see what I can find for standard-ish PC hardware.

On 9/5/2017 9:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
USB cell modem?


I've asked all of our GPS capable vendors to provide this on the radio.



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From: "George Skorup" 

To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 9:19:28 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] GPS'd NTP

I've got a few CentOS machines running around the network doing various
tasks, one being NTP for radios, routers, switches, etc. I've been
having some issues with us.pool.ntp.org lately. I switched to
time-(a,b,c,d).nist.gov. Apparently those are pretty busy.

So is anyone else using GPS to feed NTPd? From what I've been reading, I
guess I need a 1PPS capable receiver. Does that exist in a simple USB
package? That would be ideal, preferably with an SMA female for an
external antenna where needed. Looks like none of the cheap shit I'm
finding on Amazon has PPS output.

Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring device

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
So, R1 would be X Ohms and R2 would be X*.02 Ohms?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/30/17 11:51 AM, Chuck McCown
  wrote:


  
  

  Forrest, quit working and come out and play with us
  

   
  
From: Chuck
McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery
  charging and monitoring device
  

 
  
  

  
But you can use a voltage divider to convert the
  0-5 volt to 0-.1 volt.  
Two resistors.  

  
 

  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:48
AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective
battery charging and monitoring device

  
   

No,
  the SiteMonitor shunt input is ±100mV nominal.
  
  On 8/30/2017 12:42 PM,
Jesse DuPont wrote:
  
  Would these work on a SiteMonitor? They
output 1-5V DC based on current flowing through.

https://flexscada.com/product/hall-effect-current-sensor-ac-75a-dc-100a/


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/30/17 11:29 AM,
  George Skorup wrote:

Yeah, about that. I wouldn't use those
  on 12VDC systems. Too much current. I've burned up
  a couple of the 10A shunts on Traco BCMUs that
  were running around 200W load on battery. 200/13 =
  15 amps. Ungood. One site at about 225W, first
  time it went to battery, the shunt went kaput
  after 10-15 minutes and the site went down.
  
  I'm hoping Forrest comes up with some Hall effect
  stuff or even plain 20+ amp shunts that can be
  used on the SiteMonitor's existing 100mv input.
  Hall effect is nice because you don't have to be
  "in" the circuit. But I'll take what I can get.
  
  On 8/30/2017 10:26
AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  
  

Yeah, up to 10 amp.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/30/2017 11:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery
  charging and monitoring device
 

  

  
I think Forrest has them on his
  site with the site monitors.  

  
 

  From:
 

Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and monitoring device

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Would these work on a SiteMonitor? They output 1-5V DC based on
current flowing through.

https://flexscada.com/product/hall-effect-current-sensor-ac-75a-dc-100a/


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/30/17 11:29 AM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Yeah, about that. I wouldn't use those on 12VDC systems. Too much
  current. I've burned up a couple of the 10A shunts on Traco BCMUs
  that were running around 200W load on battery. 200/13 = 15 amps.
  Ungood. One site at about 225W, first time it went to battery, the
  shunt went kaput after 10-15 minutes and the site went down.
  
  I'm hoping Forrest comes up with some Hall effect stuff or even
  plain 20+ amp shunts that can be used on the SiteMonitor's
  existing 100mv input. Hall effect is nice because you don't have
  to be "in" the circuit. But I'll take what I can get.
  
  On 8/30/2017 10:26 AM, Adam Moffett
wrote:
  
  

Yeah, up to 10 amp.




-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/30/2017 11:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective battery charging and
  monitoring device



  

  
I think Forrest has them on his site with the site
  monitors.  

  
 

  From: Sam Lambie 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 9:15
AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cost effective
battery charging and monitoring device

  
   


  Parallel. Site Monitor! Now where can I
get a shunt?
  
 
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at
  9:09 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
  

  

  4 batts in series or parallel?  
  Shunt + sitemonitor would be a better
way to go and you don’t have to write
code.  
  

   
  
From: Sam
Lambie 
Sent: Wednesday, August
  30, 2017 9:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: [AFMUG] Cost
  effective battery charging and
  monitoring device
  

 
  
  

  
Hey all,
  I am getting away from using
APC at a couple of our sites and
right now I have installed a
Tripp-Lite APS750 connected to 4
Deep cycle marine batteries for
a total of 404 aH system. I'd
like to be able to monitor the
discharge rate of the batteries
when power is out remotely. What
have you guys been doing to that
effect?
   
  I'm thinking a Pi and a shunt
and some quick scripting classes
on Python to put it all

Re: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Mike is talking about "deployment data" (represented as covered
census blocks) wouldn't come from billing system. This wouldn't come
from a billing system, it would come from something like a
towercoverage.com 477 export. Blocks are generally very small.

Plat would export subscriber data, which would be by tract, by plan.
Tracts are generally much larger than blocks, especially in rural
areas.

That being said, there shouldn't ever be any subscriber data where
that tract doesn't have several blocks represented as covered by
your deployment data, at least not anything grossly far away. It's
certainly possible that there are customers where your deployment
data doesn't represent (maybe you did a point to point link to a
large ranch of some kind, have 4-5 services out there, but never
added that ranch AP to your coverage - you'll have customers in that
tract, but no deployment data showing you cover it).

One ISP I work with uses Plat and in some cases, the ISP only has
the customer's billing address in Plat, which is out of state. When
we export for 477, they show subscribers out of state in areas the
deployment data doesn't support. We manually clean these up; we sort
the 477 export by FIPS, find the out of area ones, "move" them to
other populous FIPS locations and submit it. It's not perfect and
generally less than 1%, but it does make it cleaner. If a "service
address" had been entered in Plat with the correct local address, it
would have geocoded it correctly, ignoring the billing address.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/28/17 8:27 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:


  
  Maybe they resell something in that other location.  If
they're using a system (like Plat) which generates covered
blocks based on where your customers are, then something you
resell in another area would show up in the report.
  
  
  I'm wondering what the opinion is on partially covered blocks
these days.  If you cover a portion of a census block, do you
claim it or not?  I think many operators (including some large
ones) are claiming coverage of any census block they touch.
 I've heard at least one claim that it's a defensive move to
prevent people getting government funding to overbuild them.
 Incidentally, it also prevents yourself
from getting government funding to build there so I'm
thinking it isn't such a wise choice.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message --
  From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 8/28/2017 9:36:02 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] FCC Form 477
  
  
  

  On your Federal
Communications Commission Form 477, make sure your stated
coverage is at least somewhat representative of what you
actually cover. In doing some market research, I keep
finding ISPs (not just WISPs) obviously based out of one or
two towns in one state, but have claimed some census blocks
in other states. This seems very much so an error in the
filing and not an expansion network.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest Internet Exchange
  
  The
Brothers WISP
  


  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor Enclosure Setup

[Jesse Dupont]

https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=ENC%2DST%2D24x24x16=0


From: Af  on behalf of Sterling Jacobson 

Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 7:57:09 PM
To: 'af@afmug.com'
Subject: [AFMUG] Outdoor Enclosure Setup

I've got a WISP client that wants to mount a large enclosure outside his house 
for 'the usual'.

I'm a bit out of practice on these, but I remember getting a largish 3' x 3' x 
18" or something similar metal box for this type of thing.
And mounting a shelf and some fans and creating venting on the bottom with some 
filters for dust etc.

Is there a 'solution' available for this from Streakwave or somewhere?

Like a large box already done up right?

Also, he's got lots of UBNT POE, and one of my Airfiber links to host in it.

So what's the newest/latest method for on roof antenna to POE arrestors/power 
solution?

Yeah, it's been a while, lol!

Re: [AFMUG] CCR1009 DIN rail mount: Anyone done it?

[Jesse Dupont]

Thanks Jaime! High praise from you, sir! I love your control systems.


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jaime Solorza 
<losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 6:57:03 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1009 DIN rail mount: Anyone done it?

Nice work!

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 22, 2017 6:45 PM, "Jesse DuPont" 
<jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>> wrote:
I've used a different kind of clip, but I just drill holes in the top cover for 
the clips (see pic attached).

Jesse DuPont
Network Architect
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On 8/22/17 6:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


I have a CCR1009-7G-1C-15+PC that came with a cute little clip for a DIN rail 
mount (pictured below). However, none of the holes on the clip match any of the 
holes on the CCR1009. So I think I will have to fab something, but I thought I 
should shake the bushes before I go off inventing something.

What have ya'll done?

[cid:part2.40684B80.F8D8FDA3@celeritycorp.net]


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Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I doubt any of our personal opinions matter because when (if) it
comes to unemployment, it will be the opinion of the dept of labor
that matters.

That said, I'd say he was fired: the employer initiated the
departure. Clearly, that was the intent.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/17/17 11:45 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

I'm curious on opinions on a scenario...
  
  
  Now, the way this plays out is somewhat like the AT call
  center from a few weeks ago, but ignore that...
  
  
  If an employee is told their last day is today, please complete
  the tasks assigned to you and then go on your way.
  
  
  BUT... the employee refuses to complete any of the jobs assigned
  to them and instead immediately walks off the job telling you
  "find someone else to do those tasks, I need to go look for work".
  
  
  Did the employee get fired... or quit their job?
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Managed WiFi question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We do the same as ServerPlus: ReadyNet WRT500 and AC1200M routers.
Except, rather than charging customers on an invoice line item, we
just raised our prices for all new customers (after May 1st) and
include the WRT500 at no charge (AC1200M is $7 more per month).
TR-069 for monitoring, but we also use ReadyNet's provisioning
system (which is HTTP config file download) so even after factory
reset, router will re-provision itself with customer's PPPoE
username/pass along with SSID and pass (which we leave default).

The customer can change settings as they see fit, but SSID &
passphrase will be reset back to what we set it to within an hour.
So they just have to call us if they want to control it or have us
change it (we'll accommodate either).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 7/24/17 3:25 PM, Harold Bledsoe
  wrote:


  Hi folks,


For those of you offering managed WiFi to your subscribers,
  how do you provision the devices?  And day 2, do you let the
  subscriber make changes?


Thanks!
-Hal
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Might make sure spanning tree is disabled on the MT bridge so its
BPDUs don't interact with any spanning tree that might be enabled on
the SAF. Otherwise, shouldn't be a huge deal.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 7/19/17 10:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:


  
So ive been dealing with the SAFs and the mikrotiks being
  uppity with one another.
SAF has a gigabit port, but it only offers the option to
  lock it to 100, not gigabit.
so I have the mikrotiks set, just not the otherside, the
  port still flaps on both radios


what was happening is everytime it flaps, the interface
  dropped in ospf and went neighbor down, rerouting traffic then
  coming back up


what I did was made a bridge, added that port to it, and
  put the ospf ip on the bridge itself, this allows the port to
  flap without the ospf interface going down until we work
  throught the issue with SAF


I'm wondering if this is causing some other harm having it
  on the bridge, rather than the physical port
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Laptop for Installers

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Amazon has used Getac V110 laptops for around $400 - ruggedized like
a Toughbook. Really great buy, actually! Dual batteries, touch
screen, good daylight screen.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 6/28/17 11:25 AM, Matt wrote:


  Looking for a good laptop for installers.  Prefer refurbished.  Any suggestions?



  

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of... I suspect it's just fine, but
yeah... $800 experiment.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/23/17 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard
  wrote:


  There's a pretty good chance you're not going to
get a direct answer to the question unless somebody is willing
to try it. I couldn't ever find anywhere that UBNT has ever
given an official answer to any of their stuff working with
anything other than poe pinouts they print on the spec sheets
(but it obviously does work though on some of their stuff). I
accidentally hooked up an AF-5x with the wrong pinout (I think
it was actually the same as that), and it apparently worked
fine, so I would guess that the AF11 will work too, but likely
the only way to find out for sure is going to be to try it...
and risk letting some smoke out of an $800 radio...
  
  
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 Yeah, I get what
  you're saying, that's not a bad solution, thanks for
  suggesting.


  
    Jesse DuPont

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  On
5/23/17 11:11 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
  
  

  Not sure as to the answer to your question...
(I think best place would be the Ubnt forums for
this question).
  
  
  
  Having said that.. the AF11x also has DC
power terminal, and the Data Port is different
than the POE port..
  
  With and extra cable run, you should be able
to power up using the  DC power terminals.
  
  
  
  Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663
  5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518
Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
  
  
  
  
From:
      "Jesse DuPont" <jesse.dupont@celeritycorp.net>
  To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02
  PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

  
  
Good
  morning. I'm hoping someone already has
  experience with this. I'm putting up some
  AF11X links and I want to power them off our
  24VDC plant via PoE. I've used the Tycon
  TP-DCDC-2456G-VHP units before on AF24:
  they're 24V input, 56V out on all 4 pairs of
  PoE. Specifically, they're:
  
  +(3,6)(4,5) and -(1,2)(7,8)
  
  The AC PoE bricks that comes with both the
  AF24 and the AF11X are the same:
  
  +(1,2),(4,5) and -(3,6)(7,8)
  
  Tycon says it works on the AF24 because they
  use a bridge rectifier on the PoE power inputs
  so they're polarity insensitive. They're
  saying ask UBNT.
  

Re: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, I get what you're saying, that's not a bad solution, thanks
for suggesting.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/23/17 11:11 AM, Faisal Imtiaz
  wrote:


  
Not sure as to the answer to your question... (I think best
  place would be the Ubnt forums for this question).



Having said that.. the AF11x also has DC power terminal,
  and the Data Port is different than the POE port..

With and extra cable run, you should be able to power up
  using the  DC power terminals.



Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
  
  Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
  supp...@snappytelecom.net




  From: "Jesse DuPont"
<jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 12:24:02 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question
  


  Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has
experience with this. I'm putting up some AF11X links and I
want to power them off our 24VDC plant via PoE. I've used
the Tycon TP-DCDC-2456G-VHP units before on AF24: they're
24V input, 56V out on all 4 pairs of PoE. Specifically,
they're:

+(3,6)(4,5) and -(1,2)(7,8)

The AC PoE bricks that comes with both the AF24 and the
AF11X are the same:

+(1,2),(4,5) and -(3,6)(7,8)

Tycon says it works on the AF24 because they use a bridge
rectifier on the PoE power inputs so they're polarity
insensitive. They're saying ask UBNT.

Does anyone know if the AF11X is the same way? I posted this
in UBNT forum, too.
    -- 
      
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
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  Broadband LLC
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[AFMUG] AF11 PoE Question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Good morning. I'm hoping someone already has experience with this.
I'm putting up some AF11X links and I want to power them off our
24VDC plant via PoE. I've used the Tycon TP-DCDC-2456G-VHP units
before on AF24: they're 24V input, 56V out on all 4 pairs of PoE.
Specifically, they're:

+(3,6)(4,5) and -(1,2)(7,8)

The AC PoE bricks that comes with both the AF24 and the AF11X are
the same:

+(1,2),(4,5) and -(3,6)(7,8)

Tycon says it works on the AF24 because they use a bridge rectifier
on the PoE power inputs so they're polarity insensitive. They're
saying ask UBNT.

Does anyone know if the AF11X is the same way? I posted this in UBNT
forum, too.
-- 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

[Jesse Dupont]

Well, that is a concern. I think we'll be under 30A after all is said and done 
and the DR-UPS40 handles 40A. Downside would be the 2A charging rate. I should 
note this site will have an automatic standby generator so we won't need a huge 
battery string.


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino A. Villarini 
<g...@aeronetpr.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:47:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

How do you plan to connect to batteries for this setup ?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Jesse 
Dupont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net<mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 7:07 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

The Meanwell SDR-480P-24 and -48 do current sharing so you can stack up to 8 of 
those in parallel to have a lot of capacity and N+1 redundancy without the 
DR-RDN20 redundancy module.

We're getting ready to do a four unit N+1 at a site that has 16-17 Amps already 
and is getting some LTE base stations added to it.


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of 
George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com<mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:55:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

List price on the BCMU360 is about $215 IIRC. I think we pay about $175 from 
PSUI. Plus $15 for the temp probe.

Are you asking run time? I have a couple with 40Ah of battery attached. A few 
with about 90W load have ran for over four hours, but they never went down, 
utility came back. A couple others with ~190-220W. Lost utility at one of the 
sites the other day. It was running for about an hour and a half before I 
brought a portable gen out. That site didn't go down either. Couldn't let it, 
too much traffic. And of course utility came back 15 minutes after I got the 
generator going.




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On 5/20/2017 4:51 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
How much are you paying for the Traco and how long does it last?

On 5/20/17, 4:44 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 
<af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>

ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part1.95843274.3D23CEA5@cbcast.com]

on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com<mailto:george.sko...@cbcast.com>> wrote:

>Mean Well AD-155B
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 + DR-UPS40
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 (or 48) + Traco BCMU360 (jumper selectable for 24
>or 48) - I use this combo most often. The BCMU360 is only good for ~240W
>continuous.
>
>All this stuff is fine until you start looking to deploy things that are
>power hungry like 450m's @ 70W, LTE eNB's that pull 60-100W each,
>multiple AF24s or licensed radios, etc. Then you need big-boy
>rectifiers, which aren't all that expensive, but they aren't cheap
>either. Add good telco-grade batteries on top and it's easily 10x the
>cost of what we're used to with the smaller stuff.
>
>On 5/20/2017 1:16 PM, Matt wrote:
>> What is everyone using for switching from AC to battery backup at sites?
>>
>> I normally have our other guy take care of that part.ï¿1Ž2 But we normally
>> have a DIN mount 24V power supply, a DIN mount packetflux site monitor
>> that monitors power supply output and battery voltage and some DIN
>> mount module that does charging and switching between the two.ï¿1Ž2 Also
>> have a 24V to 48V converter to power our 450i etc stuff.
>>
>> Monitor the site monitor with SNMP and start emailing alarms if power
>> supply voltage drops.ï¿1Ž2 Also graph power supply and battery voltage
>> with MRTG.
>>
>> Curious what others are using here?
>

Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

[Jesse Dupont]

The Meanwell SDR-480P-24 and -48 do current sharing so you can stack up to 8 of 
those in parallel to have a lot of capacity and N+1 redundancy without the 
DR-RDN20 redundancy module.

We're getting ready to do a four unit N+1 at a site that has 16-17 Amps already 
and is getting some LTE base stations added to it.


From: Af  on behalf of George Skorup 

Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:55:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

List price on the BCMU360 is about $215 IIRC. I think we pay about $175 from 
PSUI. Plus $15 for the temp probe.

Are you asking run time? I have a couple with 40Ah of battery attached. A few 
with about 90W load have ran for over four hours, but they never went down, 
utility came back. A couple others with ~190-220W. Lost utility at one of the 
sites the other day. It was running for about an hour and a half before I 
brought a portable gen out. That site didn't go down either. Couldn't let it, 
too much traffic. And of course utility came back 15 minutes after I got the 
generator going.

On 5/20/2017 4:51 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
How much are you paying for the Traco and how long does it last?

On 5/20/17, 4:44 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" 


�

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part1.95843274.3D23CEA5@cbcast.com]

on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>Mean Well AD-155B
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 + DR-UPS40
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 (or 48) + Traco BCMU360 (jumper selectable for 24
>or 48) - I use this combo most often. The BCMU360 is only good for ~240W
>continuous.
>
>All this stuff is fine until you start looking to deploy things that are
>power hungry like 450m's @ 70W, LTE eNB's that pull 60-100W each,
>multiple AF24s or licensed radios, etc. Then you need big-boy
>rectifiers, which aren't all that expensive, but they aren't cheap
>either. Add good telco-grade batteries on top and it's easily 10x the
>cost of what we're used to with the smaller stuff.
>
>On 5/20/2017 1:16 PM, Matt wrote:
>> What is everyone using for switching from AC to battery backup at sites?
>>
>> I normally have our other guy take care of that part.� But we normally
>> have a DIN mount 24V power supply, a DIN mount packetflux site monitor
>> that monitors power supply output and battery voltage and some DIN
>> mount module that does charging and switching between the two.� Also
>> have a 24V to 48V converter to power our 450i etc stuff.
>>
>> Monitor the site monitor with SNMP and start emailing alarms if power
>> supply voltage drops.� Also graph power supply and battery voltage
>> with MRTG.
>>
>> Curious what others are using here?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

[Jesse Dupont]

Don't forget to strut the edge of the dish back to the tower.


From: Af  on behalf of Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:11:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Now go to sitepro1.com, find the tower steel section, and 
find a standoff mount suitable for a 4.50" OD sch80 galvanized pipe and the 
wind loading of an 8' dish... The pipe and mount are going to weigh 300 pounds 
guaranteed...  You're not gonna mount a 8' dish direct to a tower, no matter 
what type it might be, tapering self supported with tubular legs, angle steel 
legs, or vertical guyed tower.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
http://www.commscope.com/catalog/wireless/product_details.aspx?id=25986

276 lbs. That said, that's without radome.



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From: "Eric Kuhnke" >
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:50:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

An 8' dish is way over 500 pounds. Do you have any idea how expensive it is to 
put an 8' dish on a tower???  And have you calculated if the tower can even 
take the new wind loading of an 8' dish at EIA/TIA 222G calculations for its 
exposure category?

Weight aside the wind loading of an 8' dish is considerable.

If you do end up hanging the thing from a man lift I want photos, because there 
are a few OSHA inspectors I would like to give nightmares to.



On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I’m going to use a man-lift assuming the antenna is under 500lbs.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna


These are not real fun

Especially over 170 feet pray for a calm day and

a good crane operator



Mitch

On 05/16/2017 11:22 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
16’ dish

From: Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Yeah, but what if it doesn't work with the 8' dish? once you have some kind of 
a link in place, it's pretty easy to get a good idea of what's going to happen 
when you get bigger dishes on there.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
The amount of revenue is high enough that the cost of the antenna isn’t an 
issue.  It’s more important that the link work.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:04 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Putting up an 8' dish without having any idea what it's going to do seems kind 
of risky - I'd assume that's not going to be cheap to put that up. I would want 
to put up some kind of a test link before I went there, even if it was just a 
pair of PowerBeams.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
I ran the numbers in linkplanner.  Too much tree variable for anything to be 
accurate.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:36 AM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Cambium LinkPlanner would help you get a good guess of your outcome, use the 
PTP 25600 Radio as a AF2 replacement in your calcs, add the foliage and voila!

From: Af > on behalf of Rory 
Conaway >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 11:18 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone have a 28-34dBi 2.4GHz 2x2 MIMO antenna

Not in this case.  If they won’t let me put a 1 or 2’ dish on the tower they 
run to get extra 

Re: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

[Jesse Dupont]

We started out using our local agent (didn't know where else to go initially). 
We ultimately got it all done, but over the years, the premium has continued to 
grow and grow and grow. Part of the issue is that if an underwriter doesn't 
truly understand a risk, they characterize said risk higher than one would that 
does understand it. We have recently moved to Unitel, who does do this largely 
only for communications companies, and the annual savings is very significant. 
You should at least obtain quotes from them to compare to a local business 
insurance agent or broker.


From: Af  on behalf of Faisal Imtiaz 

Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:48:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

Do you purchase any kind of insurance ? if you do, chances are you are already 
dealing with and insurance agent.. Start with them...

Or find a local insurance agent (Business insurance) and they will be able to 
get you business liability insurance.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:00:53 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Liability insurance

> Who does everyone use for comprehensive liability insurance? I need to have a 
> $2
> million per incident coverage for an upcoming project and I'm not even sure
> where to start looking.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield

Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

[Jesse Dupont]

On our starter kit, both the eNB and the cable came with a connector.


From: Af  on behalf of Mathew Howard 

Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 5:06:29 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

Yeah, I thought it would, but ours didn't. I also thought the connector would 
come with the cable and not thw eNB, based on stuff I had heard earlier, so I 
think maybe that's how they were originally doing things and they just switched 
to including the connector with the eNB instead at some point.

On May 14, 2017 2:51 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> 
wrote:
The eNB does come with the connector, but the description on Baltic's website 
sure makes it sound like the cable comes with one as well:

http://www.balticnetworks.com/baicells-outdoor-shielded-dc-14awg-power-cable-200ft.html

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
The cable from Baicells doesn't come with a connector on it... It's just a 
spool of cable. It is a special connector, but that connector comes with the 
eNB, and is quite simple to put on.

On May 14, 2017 1:12 PM, "Adam Moffett" 
> wrote:
You have tons of options to get a pair of 14ga conductors to the radio.  Does 
the Baicells eNB require any kind of special connector at the radio?

>From the Superior Essex energy Catalog:
http://ce.superioressex.com/uploadedFiles/Docs/PDF/Catalogs/Energy/Energy-catalog.pdf

E2BEA-141B02CB00
E2BDA-141B02CA00
E2BDB-141B02CA00 (shielded)

Composite cables from Shireen:
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/dfp-1246-data-fiber-power-composite-cable-500ft-spool

RF Elements:
http://resources.tessco.com/attachments/535797_Outdoor%20DC%20Power%20Cables.pdf

I think someone already pointed out you can get SJOOW cable by the foot from 
Home Depot.  For cable in the electrical aisle, any designation starting with 
"S" and ending with "W" should do the job.
https://solutions.borderstates.com/soow-seoow-and-stoow-what-is-the-difference/




-- Original Message --
From: "Jason McKemie" 
>
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Sent: 5/14/2017 3:40:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 14 awg cable source

I think because they can ask that much for it, and it sounds like it has a 
connector for the eNB on one end.

On Saturday, May 13, 2017, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
I was referring to the 14 awg 2 wire cable that Jason says Baicells is pushing 
and is over priced.

George Skorup wrote:
Uh... cost? They make it pretty freakin easy to get started, too. Literally all 
you need is an eNB + antenna and some UEs w/ SIM cards. The eNB talks to the 
Baicells CloudCore on the interwebs.

On 5/13/2017 9:56 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:
What makes the the Baicells stuff better than other products?

Jason McKemie wrote:
Does anyone have a good source for 14 awg 2 wire cable?  The stuff that 
Baicells is trying to push is really over priced.


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Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
For what it's worth, I don't think the DR-UPS actually has LVD built
in. It was probably a coincidence that your Netronix shut off when
the Battery Fail light came on because there was no longer enough
current for the Netonix to run.You'd have to run the batteries (pos
or neg) through a relay, with the relay operator terminals wired
through the DC OK contact of the DR-UPS40, which opens when voltage
goes below 21V (ish).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 5/11/17 10:50 AM, David Coudron
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Will do.
 
Thanks
Mark, Seth, others for the help.  Much appreciated.
 

  David
  Coudron
  david.coud...@advantenon.com | 
  Mobile:
612-991-7474
   
  Advantenon,
  Inc.    
    
  i...@advantenon.com | 
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Vicksburg Lane N,
  Suite
315,
  Plymouth,
MN 55447 | 
  www.advantenon.com | 
  Phone:
800-704-4720 | 
  Local:
612-454-1545 
   
  

 


  
From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
  Mark Radabaugh
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:44 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question
  

 
27.2 would be much more appropriate for a
  float charge.  Exact value depends on the battery manufacturer
  specs and temperature - check there for the right number.  
  24.2 or 25V is way too low, won’t get you a full charge, and
  reduce the life of the battery.

   


  Mark
  
 

  
 
  

 

  

  On May 11, 2017, at 12:35 PM,
David Coudron <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
wrote:

 

  
It was at 24.2V.   We just
  turned it up to 25V.  I am guessing that will
  charge the batteries a little better?
  
  
  
  David Coudron
  david.coud...@advantenon.com
   |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
   
  Advantenon, Inc.       
  i...@advantenon.com
   |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN
  55447  | 
  www.advantenon.com
   |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545 
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
  Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:33 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MeanWell DR-UPS40 question
  
  On 5/11/17 4:14 AM, David Coudron wrote:
  
  

  We did initially give them a
good charge, although I am thinking they
are not getting charged fully after testing a
rundown.   We are watching
the currently going into the batteries with the
TPDIN, and that is 
showing zero current, but we are going to pull
them off the system and
charge separately once to see how they react to
that.   I am guessing
the MeanWells will take quite a while to charge
those up fully.  We 
are using 14 ga stranded wire between all
components in the system, 
except the AC feed.  That is solid 

Re: [AFMUG] Small Trencher

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Berreto 2024TKD is what we rent when we need one.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 4/11/17 10:54 AM, Matt wrote:


  What is everyone using to trench short drops in?  Not just fiber but
we frequently must put a pole in yard where there is LOS to the tower.
We already have a large unit that we must haul with trailer but was
looking for something that would fit on back of truck etc.



  

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
No worries. And no, it didn't. I heard the slight arc when I tugged
on it and then it wouldn't power up what was hooked to it. Replaced
it, all was good. I just thought I did something wrong with it so no
big deal. I love that I have flexible PoE and surge in one device.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  Sorry, did it ruin any of your equipment?
  

   
  
From: Jesse DuPont

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 2:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Ahh,
that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those
pulling it out while it was powered (the screw on the green
power connector engaged slightly through vibration so I had
no choice). Thanks for sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck
  McCown wrote:


  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that
there is a small part of a trace on that circuit
board that will contact the grounding lug in the
shelf when being inserted or removed.  Not when
fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector
attached when inserting or removing the card.  It
can be field fixed with a small dot of fingernail
polish.  I will be fixing the PCB on the next run to
fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07
  PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK
  MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann
<danpeterm...@me.com>
wrote:
  
  
Thank
  you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM,
Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on
the left pin and – on the
right pin, then jumpers for
1/2 and 4/5 need to be on
the left and center pins and
the jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8

Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE PROTECTOR

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ahh, that makes sense. I ended up blowing one of the those pulling
it out while it was powered (the screw on the green power connector
engaged slightly through vibration so I had no choice). Thanks for
sharing.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/16/17 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:


  
  

  It was pointed out to me here at AnimalFarm that there is
a small part of a trace on that circuit board that will
contact the grounding lug in the shelf when being inserted
or removed.  Not when fully seated.  
   
  So don’t have the green power power connector attached
when inserting or removing the card.  It can be field fixed
with a small dot of fingernail polish.  I will be fixing the
PCB on the next run to fix the interference.  
   
  I will replace any unit in the field with advance
replacement.
  

   
  
From: Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:07 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Atten: Chuck
  800-GIGE-POE-APC RACK MOUNTPOE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  This
works flawlessly, just put it in. 
 
Thanks again for the help
   
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 3:53 PM, Dan Petermann <danpeterm...@me.com>
wrote:
  
  
Thank you for the info!
  
 

  On Mar 2, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Chuck McCown
<ch...@wbmfg.com>
wrote:
  
  

  

  OK, so if you put + on the left
pin and – on the right pin, then
jumpers for 1/2 and 4/5 need to be
on the left and center pins and the
jumpers for 3/6 and 7/8 need to be
center and right pins.  
  

   
  
From:
  Dan
Petermann 
Sent: Thursday,
  March 02, 2017 11:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  Atten: Chuck 800-GIGE-POE-APC
  RACK MOUNT
  POE-POWERINSERTER/SURGE
  PROTECTOR
  

 
  
  Sorry,
here is the pinouts with polarity
 
Pin 1 +
Pin 2 +
Pin 3 -
Pin 4 +
Pin 5 +
Pin 6 -
Pin 7 -
Pin 8 -

   
  
On Mar 2, 2017, at 11:34
  AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:


  

  
  

Re: [AFMUG] Linux network mapping up/down

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Nagios? It won't be map-based, I guess, but meets the other
requirements.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/14/17 11:07 AM, Eric Muehleisen
  wrote:


  Back in the day, Whatsup Gold had a very easy and
quick network mapper that displayed up/down all in one screen.
Similar to The Dude. Is there an open source linux version of
this out there?


We have PRTG currently which has this function, but it's
  quite clunky/slow and takes multiple clicks to see anything
  worth while.


I would like to install this on a Raspberry Pi for remote
  customer networks.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
You could also rename the "admin" user, but I suspect deleting it is
disallowed in RouterOS and as a failsafe, it is simply recreating
it. Alternative fact?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/7/17 8:08 PM, George Skorup wrote:


  
  I've never deleted the 'admin' account because of stupid crap like
  this. Could you imagine this happening after upgrading a whole
  bunch of important routers? That would suck. I'd say set a very
  strong password for the admin user and leave it alone. But that's
  just me.
  
  What version of RouterOS is this again? There was a problem on the
  tile arch quite a while ago where IIRC, you'd set the admin
  password and it'd be gone after a reboot. I think that was back in
  the 6.10's or 20's.
  
  On 3/7/2017 8:17 PM, Andreas
Wiatowski wrote:
  
  






  Nope…add in a
  terminal session with full rights.  My new users are
  created.  If I leave the default admin in with no
  password…I can return using the new login and pass.  The
  second I delete the admin account…next time I return the
  new users are wiped out and the admin account is back in
  place.
   
  

  Cheers,


   


  Andreas
  Wiatowski, CEO


  Silo
  Wireless Inc.


  519-449-5656
  x-600

  
   
   
  
From: 
  Af <af-boun...@afmug.com>
on behalf of Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 4:56 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue
  
  
 
  
  
Just to cover the dumb questions: 
  
  
How's connectivity to it?  Winbox could
  act funny if there's packet lossin which case changing
  it via CLI might work.
  
  
Somebody isn't changing the password in
  "safe" mode are they?
  
  
 
  
  
-- Original Message --
  
  
From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <andr...@silowireless.com>
  
  
To: "af@afmug.com"
  <af@afmug.com>
  
  
Sent: 3/7/2017 4:28:24 PM
  
  
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue
  
  
 
  
  

  We have one router that can’t seem to get
  a password to stick in a CCR router.
   
  Even if I change the password in this
  router is defaults back to no password?  Anyone ever
  see this
   
   
   
  Cheers,
  __
  Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
  Silo Wireless Inc.
  Email  andr...@silowireless.com
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  Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)
  Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax
  +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138
   

  

  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Copied and pasted a config, including bridge MAC address, from one
router to a newly deployed router?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 3/7/17 2:09 PM, SmarterBroadband
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
Has anyone ever had this error message in
  the Mikrotik log?
 
Interface,
warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own
address as source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop
 
This message is appearing on one of our
  vpls hub routers.  Any ideas on how to track down the cause?
 
Thanks
 
Adam
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
In the capture you'll be able to see the ARP requests being sent out
by all hosts on that L2 segment, regardless if whether you have an
IP in that subnet on your router. If you see a "who has 192.168.1.x,
tell 192.168.1.1", that's a telltale sign of a reversed or bridged
router.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/27/17 3:51 PM, Dennis Burgess
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
ARPs
will not come though as you don’t have anything on that
subnet.  DHCP-Alert is what you want.
 
 
Dennis
  Burgess –
  Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
MikroTik Certified
Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE,
MTCTCE, MTCINE
 
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From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown
subnets
 

  Im mainly looking for IP space that
shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
  
I can packet sniff and exclude all
  configured subnets on that bridge, but  its a pain
  
  
I didnt know if there was arp monitor
  or something along those lines. collecting gratuitous ARPs
  or something like that
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
  
I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i
  stick that subnet on the interface, it doesnt respond and
  often times has the customer IP arp listed as well
  sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one digit off
  like a reboot cycling up in switch then into router mode
  during boot cycle. I see it alot with netgear macs.
  
  
 
  
  
alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is
  persistent even though its not responding or otherwise
  apparently even active
  


   
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam
  Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:

  

  Oh?  I never noticed that
feature.


   


  If you get the offender's MAC
address it should be trivial to find them at that
point.  That's really all you need.


   


   


  -- Original Message --


  From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>


  To: "af@afmug.com"
<af@afmug.com>


  Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM


  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik
quick view for unknown subnets


   


  

  MIkroTik
  does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It
  will not detect the dhcp sever on the router. 
  It will give you basic information such as MAC
  address etc, but really don’t help you too
  much. But neither will turning a DHCP client
  on.  You have to find where that client is and
  turn them off. 

   
  
 
Dennis
  Burgess –
  Network Solution Engineer – Consultant
 

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Possibly, but more probable is reversed router, router who's NAT has
failed, or router in bridged-mode (or switch), as you've already
mentioned.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 2/27/17 3:40 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  could what i see be a component of bad upnp?
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Jesse
  DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  wrote:
  
 There isn't really
  anything that does what you want other than looking at
  packets. Your best bet will be to capture and then filter
  just ARP packets or just DHCP server packets (UDP,
  source-port 67) to find rogue DHCP servers. It's a start.
  
  

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Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
Celerity Networks LLC
Celerity Broadband LLC
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On
  2/27/17 3:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  
  
  Im mainly looking for IP space that
shouldnt be present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured
  subnets on that bridge, but  its a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or
  something along those lines. collecting gratuitous
  ARPs or something like that




I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick
  that subnet on the interface, it doesnt respond
  and often times has the customer IP arp listed as
  well sometimes its the same mac, sometimes its one
  digit off like a reboot cycling up in switch then
  into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot
  with netgear macs.


alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent
  even though its not responding or otherwise
  apparently even active
  


  On Mon, Feb
  27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:


  

  
Oh?  I never noticed that feature.


If you get the offender's MAC address
  it should be trivial to find them at that
  point.  That's really all you need.

  
  
  
  
  -- Original Message --
  From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
  To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>

  Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick
view for unknown subnets
  
  


  

MIkroTik
does have a dhcp alert detection
as well.  It will not detect the
dhcp sever on the router.  It
will give you basic information
such as MAC address etc, but
really don’t help you too much.
But neither will turning a DHCP

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for unknown subnets

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
There isn't really anything that does what you want other than
looking at packets. Your best bet will be to capture and then filter
just ARP packets or just DHCP server packets (UDP, source-port 67)
to find rogue DHCP servers. It's a start.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Network
  Architect
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  Broadband LLC
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On 2/27/17 3:18 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  Im mainly looking for IP space that shouldnt be
present, DHCP or not.
I can packet sniff and exclude all configured subnets on
  that bridge, but  its a pain
I didnt know if there was arp monitor or something along
  those lines. collecting gratuitous ARPs or something like that




I see alot of false 192.168.1.1 when i stick that subnet on
  the interface, it doesnt respond and often times has the
  customer IP arp listed as well sometimes its the same mac,
  sometimes its one digit off like a reboot cycling up in switch
  then into router mode during boot cycle. I see it alot with
  netgear macs.


alot of times the 192.168.1.1 is persistent even though its
  not responding or otherwise apparently even active
  
  
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Adam
  Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  Oh?  I never noticed that feature.
  
  
  If you get the offender's MAC address it should be
trivial to find them at that point.  That's really all
you need.
  




-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
To: "af@afmug.com"
  <af@afmug.com>
  
Sent: 2/27/2017 5:01:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick view for
  unknown subnets


  
  

  
  MIkroTik
  does have a dhcp alert detection as well.  It
  will not detect the dhcp sever on the router. 
  It will give you basic information such as MAC
  address etc, but really don’t help you too
  much. But neither will turning a DHCP client
  on.  You have to find where that client is and
  turn them off. 

   


   
  Dennis
Burgess –
Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
  
MikroTik
  Certified Trainer/Consultant
– MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE
 
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Wireless Hardware/Routers visit
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From: Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:59
PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik quick
  view for unknown subnets
  

 
Switch
can do it too, port isolation! Lol  note, not a
dumb switch though.   Nettoix I belive does it.
 

   
  Dennis
Burgess –
Network Solution Engineer – Consultant 
 

Re: [AFMUG] odd mt behavior

[Jesse Dupont]

If the UBNT CPEs are M series (XM or XW), is WDS enabled on both the APs and 
CPEs?






On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 12:28 PM -0700, "Cameron Crum"  
wrote:










I have a customer who is having an odd issue on several MTs. His DHCP server is 
using radius to auth end users. The mac requests a lease, radius replies with 
accept and a Framed-IP, but the lease in the dchp server just says offered and 
never binds the lease. It is not with every customer, but it seems to happening 
randomly on several routers. version is 6.36. I had them look to see if was a 
particular end user router brand, or even the same type of cpe, but other than 
all cpe's being some flavor of ubnt set up in bridge mode, there doesn't seem 
to be a pattern. The dhcp server is set up on a bridge interface in the MT, add 
arp for leases, reply-only. I'm out of ideas on what would cause this. The ip 
is within the range of ips assigned to the interface. IP Pools is set to static 
only. Anyone seen this before?

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone familiar with IDS/IPS systems

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I think it is a managed service, but it does involve hardware
appliances they provide. May not be what you're after...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 2/8/17 9:03 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
This looks like
managed services, not hardware/software.  Am I missing
something?
 
Rory
 

  
From:
Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone familiar with IDS/IPS
systems
  

 
Dell
  SecureWorks.

  Jesse DuPont
  
Network
Architect
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  On 2/8/17 6:28 PM, Rory
  Conaway wrote:


  Apparently Extreme Networking is getting
out of the IDS/IPS business.  Does anyone have any
suggestions who might have similar products they could
recommend?
   
   
  Rory
Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
  4226 S.
37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
  602-426-0542
  r...@triadwireless.net
  www.triadwireless.net
   
  “First
rule of Racing, whats behind you does not count.” –
Gregory White
   

 
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone familiar with IDS/IPS systems

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Dell SecureWorks.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 2/8/17 6:28 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


  
  
  
  
Apparently Extreme Networking is getting
  out of the IDS/IPS business.  Does anyone have any suggestions
  who might have similar products they could recommend?
 
 
Rory Conaway
• Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th
  Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net
 
“First rule
  of Racing, whats behind you does not count.” – Gregory
  White
 
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Agreed. Using Compass for customer traffic and support (your pipe is
full, here's with what) and Kentik for automatic RTBF.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 2/7/17 10:17 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  I can't imagine Calix's solution to be the
same type of product as Kentik, good or bad.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest
Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From: "Jesse
  DuPont" <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:59:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow
  
  
  Calix's Compass is actually really good. It's hosted, priced
  based on endpoints (not quantity of exporters), great
  categorization (i.e. Netflix, Youtube, etc). They also do
  endpoint to customer mapping from various sources (DHCP
  option-82, RADIUS, their own management platform, etc.).
  
  

    
      Jesse DuPont
  
Network
Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
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  On 2/7/17 8:51 AM, Paul Stewart
wrote:
  
  
Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG
and conference calls … 


For a low volume shop they seem to have a
  slick solution - only seen a brief demo.  However,
  depending on volume they do not scale “well” - we were
  told that we would need several racks of servers to deal
  with volume :(


Arbor Peakflow is the best product out there
  hands down … but it’s well into 6 figures so your budget
  may not support it ….

  

  On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mike Hammett
<af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
  
  
I haven't received a
  quote myself, but I hear it's a few hundred a
  month.
  
  

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent
  Computing Solutions

Midwest
  Internet Exchange

The Brothers
  WISP

  
  

  
  
  From: "Cassidy
B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday,
February 6, 2017 8:04:14 PM
Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] Netflow

How much?


  


  
On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM,
  Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
  wrote:


  Kentik is the cat's ass, though
it's not a few bucks a month.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest
 

Re: [AFMUG] secondary DHCP relay target

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I don't know how the BMU handles DHCP database sync itself, but if
it's like ISC's DHCP, it sync's internally, in which case, you'd
just add the 2nd BMU IP address to your one DHCP relay entry. In
this scenario, both BMU's would receive DHCP discover packets
simultaneously and if they're like ISC's DHCP, they'd decide via
their internal algorithm which server provides the lease.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 2/7/17 9:04 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  We use DHCP relay at our site routers to one of our
two mirrored BMUs
we had a link go down yesterday for a period, as the leases
  expired, they could not renew
All the affected customers could still get to the mirrored
  BMU 


How do I configure the relay in mikrotik to use the second
  server if the first is not available (these are static
  leases). Is it as simple as just putting a second target? Or
  do I create a second relay with a higher delay. Or is this not
  the appropriate mechanism for a failover DHCP server?


A big concern is what happens with unregistered devices,
  they get a dynamic IP from a dynamic pool for the site, the
  static leases should work, even if both servers are queried,
  but Im concerned the dynamic would end up with conflicting
  assignments
  
  
  -- 
  

  
If you only see yourself
as part of the team but you don't see your team
as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Calix's Compass is actually really good. It's hosted, priced based
on endpoints (not quantity of exporters), great categorization (i.e.
Netflix, Youtube, etc). They also do endpoint to customer mapping
from various sources (DHCP option-82, RADIUS, their own management
platform, etc.).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
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  Broadband LLC
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On 2/7/17 8:51 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:


  
  Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG and
  conference calls … 
  
  
  For a low volume shop they seem to have a slick
solution - only seen a brief demo.  However, depending on volume
they do not scale “well” - we were told that we would need
several racks of servers to deal with volume :(
  
  
  Arbor Peakflow is the best product out there hands
down … but it’s well into 6 figures so your budget may not
support it ….
  

  
On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:


  I haven't received a quote myself, but I
hear it's a few hundred a month.


  
  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  
  Midwest Internet Exchange
  
  The Brothers WISP
  


  


From: "Cassidy
  B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday,
  February 6, 2017 8:04:14 PM
  Subject: Re:
  [AFMUG] Netflow
  
  How much?
  
  

  
  

  On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Mike
Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:
  
  
Kentik
  is the cat's ass, though it's not a few bucks
  a month.
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent
  Computing Solutions

Midwest
  Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
  From: "Sterling
Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Monday,
February 6, 2017 7:38:27 PM
Subject: [AFMUG]
Netflow

What are your opinions on Netflow
servers/software?

I've been doing some research into using
Netflow again.
Long time ago I used NTOP, but it sucked.
Not sure if that's changed or not.

Ideally would be a much newer improved
interface type system that was hosted for a
few bucks a month.
Then I could just sign up and point my
Netflow streams to it.

I need one that is geared towards ISPs, not
Datacenter/Servers.

I don't care about netflowing and optimizing
web sites, I want to profile my customer
traffic.
Ideally it would include features necessary
  

Re: [AFMUG] I Want

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Does anyone have a document or wiki that describes how to take an
off-the-shelf AC standby generator and use it at a solar/DC site?
I'm assuming starting would be via remotely-operated or
conditional-logic-operated relay based on battery voltage? Anyone
done it and care to share the nitty gritty?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 2/3/17 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  And on a standby generator, if it is a true DC generator
the brushes will last forever.  But it is probably an
alternator/rectifier.  
  AC generator with redundant rectifiers is bound to be the
best value.  
  

   
  
From: Adam
Moffett 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 8:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want
  

 
  
  
However you get there, the nice thing about DC is you
  don't have to stay at 3600 RPM.  It's a big part of why
  inverter generators last so long on small loads. 
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/3/2017 10:29:29 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want
 

  
From an engineering standpoint I would expect a DC
  generator to be higher maintenance than an AC
  generator.   True DC generators have brushes that wear
  while AC generators have very little other than
  bearings to wear out.   Alternators (like your car
  has) are actually AC generators with a rectifier pack
  to turn the AC back into DC.  When your alternator
  bites the dust about half the time it’s the rectifier
  that fails, the other half of the time it’s the
  bearings, with a small percentage of winding or other
  failures (yeah - I know that’s more than 100%).
 
Our high reliability sites have standby AC
  generators with 500 gal propane tanks, a rectifier
  shelf, and ~24 hours of batteries.  So far they have
  been very reliable.
 

  
Mark 
  

 

  
On Feb 2, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
 

  

  
Well, it certainly would protect you in
  the event of rectifier failure.  

  
 

  From:
That
  One Guy /sarcasm 
  Sent: Thursday, February
02, 2017 3:44 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I
Want

  
   


  if youre doing a standby
generator at a dc site, even an AC fed
DC site, wouldnt it be more efficient to
use a dc generator, with less
maintenance?
  
 
On Thu, Feb 2,
  2017 at 4:29 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

   

Re: [AFMUG] Force10 Masters

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'm about the same as Justin. Got some on an iSCSI network and also
as aggregation in an IPTV headend.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 1/30/17 3:54 PM, Sterling Jacobson
  wrote:


  Are there, by chance, any Force10 networking switch masters out there?

Someone who really, really knows there way around the old Force10 switches, particularly the S4810P.

The NON-DELL verion of the hardware.




  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Okay, show of hands, how many of you also have high blood pressure..


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 1/27/17 8:34 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of
  'you', Email, text and Instant message, he does it everywhere. 
  It's like nails on a chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that
  language is evolving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
  but this one just really bothers me.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yeah, that's a no-no for us, too. If someone is going to be home,
have to be at least 18.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Architect
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On 1/17/17 11:32 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  nope nope nope
too much liability


these folks that leave their kids home alone to meet
  strangers are out of their minds
  
  
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jay
  Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
  wrote:
  They still
have to access the inside of the home don't they?

    Jesse DuPont wrote:

Sometime we will have an installer stop by when they are
home, ahead of their scheduled install, to talk things
through and reach consensus, then show up on install day
and do the job without them home.

  
  *_Jesse DuPont_*

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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
  
  
  I Agree its a silly question for a new service
  installation. We do occasionally schedule service
  calls without a customer being home if we are fairly
  certian it is an outside issue (antenna realign or
  swap radio etc).
  
  What bothers me is the customers who schedule
  something where we tell them they need to be home, and
  tech shows up and there's an 11 and 13 year old kid
  there alone. Our policy is always need to have someone
  18+ and for a new install, the person ordering service
  has to be there.
  

  On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
  <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
  wrote:
  
      Actually, I think that a significant number of our
  subscribers
      akin our service to "satellite", as that's the
  term they use to
      refer to the thing on their roof.
  
      On your second point, I completely agree.
  
  
      bp
      <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  
  
      On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  

          Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer
          thinks that is something like cellular in
  their mind, to them
          it would be like you just shipping them a
  hotspot and it just
          works like cellular companies do.
  
          WISP infrastructure is still not completely
  understood as
          compared to cable or DSL  even for many who
  have the
          service.  I know a lot of people in
  telecommunications that
          don't understand WISP technology deployments.
  
  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The people who don't worry about not being home also don't really
lock their doors. Not in this area...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/17/17 10:59 AM, Jay Weekley wrote:

They still have to access the inside of the home don't
  they?
  
  
  Jesse DuPont wrote:
  
  Sometime we will have an installer stop by
when they are home, ahead of their scheduled install, to talk
things through and reach consensus, then show up on install day
and do the job without them home.


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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

I Agree its a silly question for a new
  service installation. We do occasionally schedule service
  calls without a customer being home if we are fairly certian
  it is an outside issue (antenna realign or swap radio etc).
  
  
  What bothers me is the customers who schedule something where
  we tell them they need to be home, and tech shows up and
  there's an 11 and 13 year old kid there alone. Our policy is
  always need to have someone 18+ and for a new install, the
  person ordering service has to be there.
  
  
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill Prince
  <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
  wrote:
  
  
      Actually, I think that a significant number of our
  subscribers
  
      akin our service to "satellite", as that's the term they
  use to
  
      refer to the thing on their roof.
  
  
      On your second point, I completely agree.
  
  
  
      bp
  
      <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  
  
  
      On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
  
  
      Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer
  
      thinks that is something like cellular in their mind,
  to them
  
      it would be like you just shipping them a hotspot and
  it just
  
      works like cellular companies do.
  
  
      WISP infrastructure is still not completely understood
  as
  
      compared to cable or DSL  even for many who have the
  
      service.  I know a lot of people in telecommunications
  that
  
      don't understand WISP technology deployments.
  
  
  
  


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Re: [AFMUG] "Do I have to be home?"

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Sometime we will have an installer stop by when they are home, ahead
of their scheduled install, to talk things through and reach
consensus, then show up on install day and do the job without them
home.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/17/17 8:30 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:


  I Agree its a silly question for a new service
installation. We do occasionally schedule service calls without
a customer being home if we are fairly certian it is an outside
issue (antenna realign or swap radio etc). 


What bothers me is the customers who schedule something
  where we tell them they need to be home, and tech shows up and
  there's an 11 and 13 year old kid there alone. Our policy is
  always need to have someone 18+ and for a new install, the
  person ordering service has to be there. 
  
  
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Bill
  Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  Actually,
I think that a significant number of our subscribers akin
our service to "satellite", as that's the term they use to
refer to the thing on their roof.

On your second point, I completely agree.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

  

On 1/17/2017 7:12 AM, Brian Webster wrote:

  Remember your service is wireless. The average
  consumer thinks that is something like cellular in
  their mind, to them it would be like you just shipping
  them a hotspot and it just works like cellular
  companies do.
  
  WISP infrastructure is still not completely understood
  as compared to cable or DSL  even for many who have
  the service.  I know a lot of people in
  telecommunications that don't understand WISP
  technology deployments.


  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Omnitik 5 PoE ac

[Jesse Dupont]

The new hEX POE (RB960) has PoE gbit ports.






On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 8:14 AM -0700, "Stefan Englhardt"  
wrote:














It has 5 switched *gigabit* ports. 750P/Toughbox has only 100M.

 

 

- GENIAS INTERNET -- www.genias.net --

Stefan Englhardt Email: s...@genias.net

Dr. Gesslerstr. 20   D-93051 Regensburg

Tel: +49 941 942798-0    Fax: +49 941 942798-9

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2017 16:05
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Omnitik 5 PoE ac

 

I don't understand why you wouldn't use a 750P or Toughbox for this job, what's 
the Omnitik doing for you (for non MT wireless users)?




 

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

Finally it is here.

 

Great tool even for non MT-Wireless users.

Just feeded it with the included 28V Powersupply 15m cable.

Plugged in a AF5X and 3 Rocket AC PTMP and powered them all.

AF5X needs PoE „forced on“.

 

Health says 27.1V. So it dropped 1V. All ports GE.

 

All 5 ports are HW-switchable (old omnitik did not include port1/poe-in).

 

If you dont use the 5GHz .ac radio for ptmp it is usable for management

access or sniffing/snooping.

 

The build quality is not premium but better than the old omnitik.

The door is fixed and has a screw at the bottom. Nothing for fastening the 
cables.

 

Re: [AFMUG] Best Way to implement dual stack IPv4/6

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We "allocate" a /64 to each PtP link, but actually use a /126 (or
/127) mask so packets addressed to the remainder of the /64 simply
get dropped because there is no route in the table.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/15/17 10:36 AM, Seth Mattinen
  wrote:

On 1/15/17 8:55 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
  
  


Anything longer than a /64 will break SLAAC, neighbor discovery,
and

other v6 “stuff”.  If you don’t need these then a /127 is for
you. Just

know the downsides of a /64 vs a /127. The RFC says you can do
it, but

it conflicts with the before mentioned V6 stuff.   Frankly I
don’t care

about conserving IPV6 space.


  
  
  
  It's not all about conservation, which is why I pointed out that
  an RFC does indeed exist for the case of longer prefixes on router
  interfaces. Whether those things are important or not is an
  exercise left up to the reader.
  
  
  ~Seth
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We did the same - provided email since the start. Gave them all 6
months, but we said if they want to keep their email, it'd be
$10/month. About 200 of them did so that easily pays for all the
"headache". The rest were all suspended on 1/3/17.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/11/17 10:06 AM, George Skorup
  wrote:

We followed the trend and gave everyone 6 months to
  move out. Dumped all customer accounts on the 1st. I think we've
  had 3-5 people throw a fit.
  
  
  It just wasn't worth it anymore. ~80% of the accounts were
  abandoned and at quota. Accounts constantly broken into and used
  to send junk. And now that headache is gone.
  
  
  On 1/11/2017 8:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
  
  I probably can't send you email then. 
I've given up on Yahoo blocking mail from my server.  Nobody
else, just Yahoo.  I don't think anyone is processing the
unblocking requests anymore, and sacrifices to the SPF, DKIM and
DMARC gods don't seem to  help.  Oh, well, I've just lumped
Yahoo in with AOL, the emails can't be very important.



-Original Message-

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince

Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:33 AM

To: af@afmug.com

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email address


All the leaks reported were at least 2 years ago. I've since
changed my passwords, and I don't put important stuff in email
without precautions anyway. I always advise people that email is
not secure.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>


On 1/10/2017 10:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

I'm guessing yours was involved in the
  recent leak? :)
  
  
  On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Bill Prince
  <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
  My personal email has been on yahoo
since 1994. Kind of amazing to me.


Don't give me any snide remarks about yahoo. It's actually
worked

pretty well; I even have emails going back that far.



bp

<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



On 1/10/2017 4:48 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

Hi,
  
  
  I just realized today that I have had the same email
  address for
  
  18.5 years. I'm on every spam and mailing list ever
  created. LOL
  
  
  Travis
  
  

  



  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We have a 900 MHz PTP link using UBNT NanoStation Loco M900 on each
end. It's about 1/2 mile, through a few trees (I wouldn't say thick
trees), signal -51, 20 MHz channel, peaks about 28 Mbps most nights.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/11/17 7:28 AM, Mitch Koep wrote:


  
  Mike
  We use UBNT RM9 and KP yagi for shot just like that
  for hard to reach customers
  With 20Mhz channel they see about 16 to 18 meg thru
  Mitch
  
  
  On 01/10/2017 10:12 PM, Colin
Stanners wrote:
  
  
Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots
  of FSK 900APs and SMs for sale.

  On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike
Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

  
Would
  a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a
  1/2 mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river
  valley, connecting buildings on either side of the
  river.
  
  It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so
  there's not THAT much throughput needed or available.
  AP at camera side, CPE at DSL side was my idea.
  
  That can't cost more than a few hundred bucks now, can
  it?
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  

  

  

  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I think it's probably the innator... Those are powerful;
Doofenshmirtz is a genius. I'm glad I don't live in the tri-state
area!


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/2/17 9:12 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

I've been reading in the news about the susceptibility
  of the smartgrid and related smartmeters.  They talk about how a
  compromised smartmeter can be made to explode or catch fire on the
  side of a house.  I'm just wondering how this would be
  accomplished.  Isn't there basically just a relay and a current
  monitor in it.  Do they switch the relay on and off rapidly until
  it overheats?  It seems like eventually the contacts would heat up
  and fuse if that was the case.  Or are they built like a Dr
  Doofenshmirtz innator with a self destruct option included.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] rasberry pi kit source

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I use an Intel i7 NUC as a Plex server - I run it off the 24VDC
power plant (24V to 19V converter). The NUC added about 15-18W of
load, depending on it's load. Now I just need to move the QNAP to
the 24VDC plant, too...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/27/16 9:49 AM, Josh Reynolds
  wrote:


  I haven't had to do that in the house with 802.11ac.

I'd imagine one of those octacore odroids would be fine if you needed
to transcode.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote:

  
I use Plex personally. I've found that you'll eventually need transcoding if
you want to view your content on different devices at different times and
places. A Pi won't be able to keep up.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


  
If you decide you want moar power...

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php

On Dec 27, 2016 1:15 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

  

The last pi I got was from Amazon. $60 included the pi (the new 64 bit
version), an 8GB flash with Raspbian pre-burned, power supply, case, and
shipping.

Hard to beat that with a stick.

Have several pis now.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/26/2016 9:33 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

im looking to build a kodi box and get a second for messing with
so i tool over to ebay, there are tons of options, prices seem low on
kits for the accessories included (priced out alone i would think it would
be more for the accessories alone that for the kits as a whole)
and i see a ton of "this is genuine" which indicates to me there are alot
of bootleg devices, etc

is there a trusted ebay seller for this stuff? I dont know much about
them but i see everybody using them for things these days i figure its time
to get with 2016

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Re: [AFMUG] UniFi NVR fun

[Jesse Dupont]

I've got a UBNT NVR at a cattle ranch they use during calving. Only issue it's 
had is when it auto updated and all the cams had to be upgraded before they 
came back. However, they were all upgradable from the NVR.






On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:37 AM -0700, "Josh Luthman" 
 wrote:










I did a camera system for the MOST COMPUTER ILLITERATE PERSON I've ever met.  
Decently smart person, but anything binary he can't handle.
He's ecstatic with the cameras here in Ohio (he lives in LA).

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:15 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
is the user interface simple enough for cow breeders to get on, view cams, and 
if need be find timeframes and download footage?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:
Works pretty well.  If you don't try to make changes you should have no 
problems at all.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:45 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
is the unifi platform pretty stable overall? Looking for a lower end solution 
for home businesses that dont want to pay the cost of axis or fortinet, but 
that i dont have to deal with like with cobblechicanery or awesome new egg 
chinese 16 cam dvr systems for only 300 bucks
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:
We had one of our water utilities clients call the NVR was not accepting 
logins... Two cameras are mission critical to document when techs take UV 
sampling of treated waste water before sent out to irrigation.  The others are 
normal surveillance with UVC and UVC Pros.  They had power outage on Saturday 
and apparently affected NVR.   IP was same but no logins including my support 
one worked... Reset unit and got it reconfigured,  no issues in log files..I 
connected my laptop to hot spot which was on network and cameras updated 
immediately over ptp wireless link!    So NVR didn't recognize camera firmware. 
  Connected NVR to net... 3.09 to 3.15...on right side on menu shows 
3.5.2installed it and voila... Nope Had to upgrade Chrome on management 
PC.   Voila!!   Thanks to Ben and Marc at UBNT.    



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Re: [AFMUG] Just got my 1st set of Siklu 5500d. Now what?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
They'll likely get a hold of you once you register/activate the
radio.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/16/16 3:44 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:


  

  

  Well I logged into the ftp section of siklu's site
looking for a manual, firmware updates if needed and any
other pertinent info. Nada, Zip, Zilch
I guess this product is so new, that they haven't even
posted anything on their site about it.
  
  Does anyone have a contact that I can talk to by chance on
  how best to implement this bad boy?

I can get into it and play with it no problem, just looking
for any tips on them.
  
  Thanks

Sam

  

  

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Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Fair enough. I shall gaze longingly, through blurry eyes.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 10:06 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  One does not simply look at PacketFlux. Packetflux
is an elegant lady, with charm and a horseface. Memorizing, yet
horrifying, once you have tasted her, your thirst will never be
quenched by another maiden, no matter ho fair she may be.
  
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:36 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com>
  wrote:
  

  

  No limit with the proper shunt.  
  

   
  
From: Jesse
    DuPont 
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:30
  AM
To: af@afmug.com 

  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site
  Monitor
  

  

 
  
  

  I'll
look at PacketFlux. I'm needing upwards of 60
amps bi-directional current monitoring for
battery string.


  
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On
  12/2/16 9:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  

  Looks a bit on the hobby level to
me.  And more expensive than Forrest’s
products.  
  

   
  
From: Jesse
    DuPont 
Sent: Friday, December
  2, 2016 8:49 AM
To: Animal Farm

Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
  Site Monitor
  

 
  
  Ahh
found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
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On
  12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote:

Someone, a few
  months ago, sent a link to the

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'll look at PacketFlux. I'm needing upwards of 60 amps
bi-directional current monitoring for battery string.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 9:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  Looks a bit on the hobby level to me.  And more expensive
than Forrest’s products.  
  

   
  
From: Jesse DuPont

Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 8:49 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor
  

 
  
  Ahh
found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse
  DuPont wrote:

Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the
  group for a site monitor system for monitoring DC voltage,
  current, etc. via IP/SNMP and it used external current
  shunts. It wasn't the Newmar, the Tycon TPDIN or the
  PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed like it was
  $250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on sensors.
  
  Thanks!
  -- 











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Re: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and why?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Yes they did. I don't know what their grand plan is, but 4.0b3 is
stable, flexible and comprehensive. They've really screwed with
logging. It used to be flexible, with regex rules, etc. Now it's
just RouterOS logging by category only. And wouldn't you know it,
the only category now is "Dude". CHR sucks because the primary
volume is so small. And if you're running an Enterprise version of
VMware, have to mess with the disk and controller type to even get
it to work.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 5:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:


  
  Seriously, Mikrotik really fucked The
Dude. No development for something like five years, then when
they start, they shit-can the PC-installable version and the web
interface. They require it to be ran from a router. Who the hell
does that? I know they have CHR now, but still...


  
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  Intelligent
Computing Solutions
  
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Internet Exchange
  
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From: "Stefan
  Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 12:05:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and
  why?
  
  We are still with the DUDE. Not seen another product where
  mapping is better.
  They started developing it further but the new beta's are
not usable now but promising. They integrated the Dude into
their ROS. So it will be usable with CLI and run on some of
their routerboards and their virtual appliance. Very easy to
handle for ISP's using Mikrotik for routing. And it is still
free.
  
  
   Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
  Von: Brett A Mansfield <li...@silverlakeinternet.com> 
  Datum: 02.12.16 04:21 (GMT+01:00) 
  An: af@afmug.com 
  Betreff: [AFMUG] What NMS does everyone use and why? 
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ahh found it: flexSCADA. Sorry about that.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 12/2/16 8:46 AM, Jesse DuPont wrote:


  
  Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the group for a site
  monitor system for monitoring DC voltage, current, etc. via
  IP/SNMP and it used external current shunts. It wasn't the Newmar,
  the Tycon TPDIN or the PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed
  like it was $250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on
  sensors.
  
  Thanks!
  -- 













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[AFMUG] Site Monitor

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Someone, a few months ago, sent a link to the group for a site
monitor system for monitoring DC voltage, current, etc. via IP/SNMP
and it used external current shunts. It wasn't the Newmar, the Tycon
TPDIN or the PacketFlux. Does anyone remember? Seemed like it was
$250-300 ish or the main unit and then the add-on sensors.

Thanks!
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Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How Would You Address It?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
That's where we're at, option 4. By default, we NAT everyone for v4.
Those who call and complain about issues with the NAT (gaming, VoIP
maybe, VPN sometimes), we move them to a dynamic routable v4
address. We're all PPPoE so this change is simple: change it in
RADIUS, kick their session, back on with routable v4 address. All
our SM's are bridged so the customer's router does the PPPoE session
and gets the IPs directly. We do not charge customers who need a
public, only those who need a STATIC.
We also are 100% dual-stack throughout, with v6 prefix-delegation
enabled at every site. Any router we sell has v6 enabled and is
tested at the house. Any customer-owned existing router, if it
supports v6 PD will also get a prefix if v6 is enabled on their
router.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/27/16 7:56 PM, Kurt Fankhauser
  wrote:


  You can do an option 4 HYBRID if you don't have
enough IPV4 for each customer like me. About half my customers
are on public V4 and the other half are Private 10.0.0.0 numbers
and I plan on overlaying that with dual stack IPV6 and everyone
will have public V6 assignment while only about half will have
public v4 and the other half will have private v4
  
On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:05 PM,
  Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
  We are
doing dual stack with IPv6 and IPv4 available on DHCP for
each customer.

I have over 600 IPv4 assigned and about 80 IPv6 assigned
currently, so you can see how well that's going...

I would love to just use IPv6, but there doesn't seem to be
a good solution for that currently.

Which is sad because IPv6 has been out there for over a
decade.

  

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 4:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Network from Ground Up - How
Would You Address It?

Dual stack and Ipv4 public addresses….

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Sam Morris <w...@csilogan.com>
wrote:
>
> If you were starting a new network from scratch,
how would you do your IP addressing?
>
> Option 1) ipv6 - Doesn't appear that everything on
the Internet supports pure v6, which would require...
>
> Option 2) ipv6 with NAT64 or dual stack (or
whatever would be a patch to make Option 1 work)... or
>
> Option 3) ipv4 with private IP addresses and a
single public v4 address at the edges (and use CGN for
the calea stuff - CGN which evidently comes with its own
set of problems...)
>
> Or is there a better option that I'm not thinking
about?
>
> Deciding among these seems like picking which
presidential candidate to vote for - They all stink, and
trying to decide which one stinks the least...
>
> Thanks,
> Sam

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik DNS Cache

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I, too, seem to have weird issues where the Mikrotik will slowly
stop doing recursive lookups until the cache is flushed. Not sure if
it's related to using IPv6 DNS addresses or what. I've moved back to
giving out my on-net DNS servers instead of using the Mirkotik
cache/proxy.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/26/16 7:55 AM, Josh Reynolds
  wrote:


  Shouldn't be any issues, no.
  
On Oct 26, 2016 8:54 AM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  Is anyone
using the Mikrotik DNS cache as there primary DNS resolver
for there clients?  Say use a CCR and your largest upstreams
DNS
server as parent.  Should there be any issues with that?
  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] stp

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I don't know what all vendors use for their defaults, but one of the
simplest things you can do to help stabilize RSTP is to be
intentional about which device is the root bridge (i.e. closest
switch/bridge to traffic egress/ingress or core or what ever you
define as the "root"). Make sure that device has the lowest priority
so that all other bridges are working to have the best path to that
device. if you want traffic in a bridged network to flow a specific
way, you can influence that with RSTP path cost. None of this
replaces routing (ducks), but it's better than leaving them all at
default priority and letting them elect the root.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/25/16 9:08 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  STP is dynamic, when we were solely a Milan
switched network it was off by default, when we moved to HP it
was off by default, now its on by default for everything even
HP, I assume if I read release notes on new models I would have
known that.
I prefer dynamic things be off and we turn them on
loop mitigation i guess i can see being worthwhile to have
  on by default, but generally when you create a loop its by
  mistake, and if you dont know its on, it creates a dynamic
  troubleshooting environment
I like knowing its generally going to be on, the mikrotik
  thing was unexpected, global off would be nice
when i was just a tech they implemented rstp on the network
  for redundant crummy links and dicked with the timers the
  links would flap and kick off a random root run around the
  network for hours, you cant get greedy with stp


  
  
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Faisal
  Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
  wrote:
  

  
very simple..


a) it is on by default in CISCO Equipment
b) it catches people by surprise, cause it does not
  output to logs as to what is going on.
c) one can only see the status of a blocked port if
  one issues the stp command.
but the biggest one is...


d)  Cisco switches will react to STP messages being
  broadcast from a totally different section of a
  connected network... !


so, simply by the virtue of 'Cisco of Right' and
  they have the highest quantity of switches deployed in
  the field... and this is one of the biggest gotchas,
  when the folks experience it. they  (cisco)
  automatically gets  the brunt of the black eye !


No one starts a story with .. " Let me tell you how
  I made a mistake" but the story always starts with
  .." Ahhh what a POS, let me tell you what I had to
  endure due to this  POS !  ".

  
  
  :)
  
  
  
  
  Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518
  x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or
Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
  
  
  

  From:
"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 6:18:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stp
  


  

  Why
  do people act like STP is some evil
  proprietary Cisco thing?  If you don’t want
  it, turn if off, but don’t make it sound like
  Cisco pulled it out of their ass, it’s a
  perfectly standard Layer 2 protocol.
  

 

Re: [AFMUG] buildout deadlines

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Ha! Just received a couple of those, too. We logged into our FRN and
filed the notice of completed construction.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/25/16 1:43 PM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  we have a couple links, we were told all fcc stuff
was good to go. We got one of those vulture letter from Business
Radio Licensing wanting us to give them a fee to file our
construction notification


looking at one of the licenses, it gives me the option to
  file it, i assume thats the case for all of them. are we going
  to get hammered for filing now when theyve been in production
  use for some time? I assume they mean it when they say if we
  havent filed by the deadline  theyll terminate our licenses


Im a bit irritated by this
  
  
  -- 
  

  
If you only see yourself
as part of the team but you don't see your team
as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] 10G transport, what's it worth?

[Jesse Dupont]

$3825, 800ish miles, 3 year, Zayo (one end at Tier 1 market).
$3800, 30ish miles, 5 year, CenturyLink (intrastate)






On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:59 PM -0600, "TJ Trout"  wrote:












What is the going rate for 10G of long haul transport today? I've heard it may 
be down in the $2500 range? If you have received a competitive quote recently 
could you give me a ball park and who the provider was? Direct or through sales 
channel? 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Facebook (was: antenna pattern for baicells UE)

[Jesse Dupont]

Yeah, I completely agree about people indiscriminately being too liberal with 
their personal information. 






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:07 PM -0600, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:










I know, I'm just being a wise ass.
We use FB for all the things you listed as well.  
I personally quit FB about 4-5 years ago...to much 1984 in my opinion.  People 
freely give up a lot of privacy to a private company that uses that data to 
make billions and knows WAY too much about everyone and how we are 
interconnected.
2 cents
-Sean

On Friday, October 14, 2016, Jesse Dupont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
We use FB a lot. We have more followers/likes than customers. We use it for 
outage notifications, new sites/area announcements, ask customers to 
review/rate us, etc, etc. We answer support and new service requests there, 
too. It's also by far the most bang for your buck as an advertising medium.






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:47 PM -0600, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:












Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] antenna pattern for baicells UE

 

One of the most popular sites in the world so...bunch!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 6:02 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

what is this "book of face" to which you are referring?!?!

 

seriously, who still uses Facebook???

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
wrote:

Rick posted the beam width on the Facebook group in the last couple weeks

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 2:15 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

Does anybody happen to have the polar antenna pattern for the 19dbi Baicells 
CPE?

 

If not, does anybody know what the horizontal beamwidth is?

 

[AFMUG] OT: Facebook (was: antenna pattern for baicells UE)

[Jesse Dupont]

We use FB a lot. We have more followers/likes than customers. We use it for 
outage notifications, new sites/area announcements, ask customers to 
review/rate us, etc, etc. We answer support and new service requests there, 
too. It's also by far the most bang for your buck as an advertising medium.






On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 6:47 PM -0600, "Ken Hohhof"  wrote:












Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] antenna pattern for baicells UE

 

One of the most popular sites in the world so...bunch!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 6:02 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

what is this "book of face" to which you are referring?!?!

 

seriously, who still uses Facebook???

 

-Sean

 

 

 

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Rick posted the beam width on the Facebook group in the last couple weeks

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Oct 14, 2016 2:15 PM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

Does anybody happen to have the polar antenna pattern for the 19dbi Baicells 
CPE?

 

If not, does anybody know what the horizontal beamwidth is?

 

Re: [AFMUG] Fast.com (Netflix) tests significantly slower than EVERYTHING ELSE

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Nah, they're both, if the player supports it.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/7/16 2:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


  I believe Netflix videos and stuff are IPv4 only.
  

  

  
  
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  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
  


On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Paul
  Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
  wrote:
  Why is
that strange?

  
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Just did a speed test too fast.com and got
86mbps.  What I thought was
> odd is it ran over IPv6 according to torch in our
Mikrotik.

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
UBNT.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:51 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  What PTMP equipment are you using at those sites? I have seen odd
  things happen on APs during severe fading events.
  
  On 10/6/2016 10:20 PM, Jesse DuPont
wrote:
  
  

I'll chime in on this... We had four separate multipoint APs
this morning, two on one tower and the other two each on their
own separate towers, all drop all their RF sessions to SMs and
had to be rebooted before the SMs would reconnect. I wonder if,
had the equipment been higher quality, maybe the SMs would not
have dropped, just degraded for a bit (perhaps)? Other than
these are all in the same 20 mile radius, they have nothing in
common other than the owner. Do you think it's the same
symptoms/problem?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:02 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Thunderstorms this afternoon. Then it cleared and the sun was
  beating down for a while. Still 70F outside. Dew point 67F.
  90% humidity. Wind dropped to zero around dusk, which is the
  major contributing factor. Feels like a summer night outside
  right now. The wind should pick up a little bit later and mix
  things up. Hopefully.
  
  Our 30 mile 6GHz path is about 7dB low one direction and 18dB
  low in the other direction (Rx high side) right now. Sitting
  at 256QAM and 64QAM. As I'm writing this, I'm sitting here
  watching the Rx high side RSL swing back up 10dB in less than
  a minute. Now both RSLs are even, but still 7dB below normal.
  And both sides back to full mod. Now it's starting to reverse.
  The Rx low end is going down hill while the Rx high is sitting
  fairly steady. And now they're even again. You can really see
  the frequency selective fading with the FDD split. Cool stuff.
  Sucks, but still cool to watch.
  
  On 10/6/2016 9:17 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
  
  




  George,
  is this due to some weird weather by you?
   
  Oh,
  and one thing to consider if you have 3.65
  interference, I found out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX
  for smartgrid, I don’t know if this is the top of the
  hierarchy for their 900 MHz stuff, or SCADA to
  substations.  One tower by me they have 4 sectors and
  I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It didn’t help
  that they totally messed up the lat/lon of their tower
  when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked at the
  CPE locations and drew lines following the stated
  azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a
  ComEd facility.
   
   
  
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
   
  
lol well it wont be coming from us
  for a while, we are going 3ghz silent
  
  
 

  On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM,
George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
wrote:
  

  Dude, I'm seeing multipath
and ducting like a somebitch. Started around
dusk. Don't beat your head into your desk. I'm
seeing some 11GHz links go from their nominal

Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I'll chime in on this... We had four separate multipoint APs this
morning, two on one tower and the other two each on their own
separate towers, all drop all their RF sessions to SMs and had to be
rebooted before the SMs would reconnect. I wonder if, had the
equipment been higher quality, maybe the SMs would not have dropped,
just degraded for a bit (perhaps)? Other than these are all in the
same 20 mile radius, they have nothing in common other than the
owner. Do you think it's the same symptoms/problem?


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 10/6/16 9:02 PM, George Skorup
  wrote:


  
  Thunderstorms this afternoon. Then it cleared and the sun was
  beating down for a while. Still 70F outside. Dew point 67F. 90%
  humidity. Wind dropped to zero around dusk, which is the major
  contributing factor. Feels like a summer night outside right now.
  The wind should pick up a little bit later and mix things up.
  Hopefully.
  
  Our 30 mile 6GHz path is about 7dB low one direction and 18dB low
  in the other direction (Rx high side) right now. Sitting at 256QAM
  and 64QAM. As I'm writing this, I'm sitting here watching the Rx
  high side RSL swing back up 10dB in less than a minute. Now both
  RSLs are even, but still 7dB below normal. And both sides back to
  full mod. Now it's starting to reverse. The Rx low end is going
  down hill while the Rx high is sitting fairly steady. And now
  they're even again. You can really see the frequency selective
  fading with the FDD split. Cool stuff. Sucks, but still cool to
  watch.
  
  On 10/6/2016 9:17 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
  
  




  George,
  is this due to some weird weather by you?
   
  Oh,
  and one thing to consider if you have 3.65 interference, I
  found out ComEd is using 3.65 WiMAX for smartgrid, I don’t
  know if this is the top of the hierarchy for their 900 MHz
  stuff, or SCADA to substations.  One tower by me they have
  4 sectors and I think each AP only feeds 1-2 CPEs.  It
  didn’t help that they totally messed up the lat/lon of
  their tower when they registered it in ULS.  Once I looked
  at the CPE locations and drew lines following the stated
  azimuth, I saw they converged on a tower next to a ComEd
  facility.
   
   
  
  From: Af
  [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
  On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
  Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:05 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] *&%$ 320
   
  
lol well it wont be coming from us for
  a while, we are going 3ghz silent
  
  
 

  On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:58 PM,
George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
wrote:
  

  Dude, I'm seeing multipath and
ducting like a somebitch. Started around dusk. Don't
beat your head into your desk. I'm seeing some 11GHz
links go from their nominal -45ish to like -35 to
-60 in just a couple minutes, and BER alarms like
crazy. This is teh suck.
  

   
  
On 10/6/2016 8:47 PM, That
  One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
  
  

  There is some nutty
madness going on on a large portion of our
320 network, it has hit multiple sites at
once. 
  
I know much of its self
  induced due to too many marginal installs
  on very limited access points
  
  
 
  
  
good CINR to SMs, even
  matrix B I cant even get into

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Ransomware

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Mining a bitcoin probably costs more in electricity for you than the
bitcoin is worth. Either way, you're spending the money...


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/30/16 8:58 AM, Nate Burke wrote:


  
  But you can just Mine your own bitcoin, can't you?  So it's
  effectively free ransom.
  
  On 9/30/2016 9:56 AM, That One Guy
/sarcasm wrote:
  
  
lol they dont take credit cards, bitcoin only,
  and as i understand all communication is via email.
  
  


  On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Josh
Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

  Just a thought...since it's social
engineering anyway...


What if you called and asked when the files would
  be returned to you?  Say you paid an hour ago but it
  still hasn't been fixed.


Maybe give them a credit card that you don't use
  often and pay the bill with that, then when you get
  your files nuke the machine and dispute the
  charge/cancel the card.
  
  

  

  
  
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  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
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On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at
  10:48 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  

  The ransomware is still on the computer
after you pay the ransom, right?  So the
only way to stop them from hitting you again
when they're hard up for cocaine money is to
invest a lot in IT fixes anyway.  Same
problem, except if you pay the ransom maybe
you get your data back.  But paying the
ransom also encourages them to keep doing it
to other people, and maybe contributes to
the ongoing problem.  I guess it comes down
to whether you have enough of it backed up.
  
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: 9/30/2016 9:54:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Ransomware
 

  
the ransoms are
  relatively cheap if youre not a
  targeted corportation, running between
  150 and 8The amount of work stoppage
  and time investment alot of people put
  into this exceeds the ransom anyway

  On Fri, Sep
30, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:

  

  FireEye
  was providing a decrypt
  tool for the original
  Cryptolocker but likely
  you are out of luck.  Find
  a backup, pay the ransom,
  or kiss your data goodbye.
   
   

Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem

[Jesse Dupont]

We've had to reboot E7s before because of DHCP snooping failures on ONTs.



_
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem
To:  


We didn’t do any Calix changes and we don’t think they can push a change.   
From: Paul Stewart Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 10:07 AMTo: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem Yup …  Four steps to DHCP that 
you should see on the capture DiscoveryOfferResponse Ack (DORA for short) Once 
the Ack is completed then the ONT should have an IP and only come back looking 
for a new IP near expiry and/or a power event etc… I’d suggest testing against 
the DHCP server with a PC with short expiry as noted .. if that works fine then 
go further upstream and repeat.  really sounds like an ONT issue - did you do 
any changes with Calix firmware or anything like that? Just some guesses Paul   
On Sep 30, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Adam Moffett    wrote:   
That   was supposed to say "if you can ping the ONT from the DHCP server"  
stupid   fingers can't keep up with stupid brain.     --   Original Message 
--  From:   "Adam Moffett"   To:   "Animal Farm" 
  Sent:   9/30/2016 9:59:04 AM  Subject:   Re: [AFMUG] Need help 
with DHCP problem   You're doing exactly what I would do. The 
renewal is unicast, so if you can the ONT from the DHCP server then the 
unit should be able to renew.  My guess would be something in the middle 
either dropping the request from the client or dropping the ack from the 
server.  Maybe a misbehaving switch or misconfigured firewall rule.  
Wireshark and/or logs on one end or the other might tell you which step is 
not happening, but they won't tell you which device is dropping the ball.  
I'm guessing you'll run wireshark, see a missing packet from somebody and 
then have to packet capture at points in between to see if the missing 
packet is present or not at that point.   -- Original 
Message --From: "Chuck McCown" To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: 9/29/2016 11:12:12 PMSubject: [AFMUG] Need help 
with DHCP problem   I have not dug into the entrails of DHCP 
since NAT was added   to Canopy, so long time ago.  I have Calix ONTs that 
are going away   when their DHCP reservations expire.  They normally get 
them from   DHCPatriot.  People lose service, they call, we reset the ONT 
and   service comes back.       Started a couple of days ago, no 
network changes to speak of.    But about 30% are having the problem.   
    There is no way the DHCPatriot could be causing this is there?    
Once it hands out an IP and a reservation time, it is out of the loop,   
right?     I suggest setting up an ONT with a reservation time of 1 
hour then   wireshark the DHCPatriot to see of the ONT ever comes knocking, 
or if it   does, what is going on between those two.       Any 
other troubleshooting ideas out there?  Going to bed,   hopefully there 
will be a bunch of brilliant posts in the morning leading   us directly to 
the bad actor.     

Re: [AFMUG] Need help with DHCP problem

[Jesse Dupont]

Do you have MacFF enabled? This snoops the DHCP transaction and keeps MAC to IP 
mapping in a table (for anti-spoofing). Maybe something isn't right in the 
(presumably) E7 and MacFF isn't functioning quite right? Might try disabling 
MacFF temporarily to see if any better or maybe disabling DHCP snooping or 
Option 82 also temporarily.






On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:12 PM -0600, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:










I have not dug into the entrails of DHCP since NAT was added to Canopy, so long 
time ago.  I have Calix ONTs that are going away when their DHCP reservations 
expire.  They normally get them from DHCPatriot.  People lose service, they 
call, we reset the ONT and service comes back.
Started a couple of days ago, no network changes to speak of.  But about 30% 
are having the problem.  
There is no way the DHCPatriot could be causing this is there?  Once it hands 
out an IP and a reservation time, it is out of the loop, right?
I suggest setting up an ONT with a reservation time of 1 hour then wireshark 
the DHCPatriot to see of the ONT ever comes knocking, or if it does, what is 
going on between those two.  
Any other troubleshooting ideas out there?  Going to bed, hopefully there will 
be a bunch of brilliant posts in the morning leading us directly to the bad 
actor.  

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi Controller questions

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
As Josh said, the controller going out does not affect the APs. In
fact, the controller can be offline for quite some time and won't
affect the AP, even if the AP reboots.

Upgrading the controller will not cause an outage to the AP's unless
automatic upgrades is enabled.

I typically disable automatic upgrades and kick them off in
maintenance window.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/26/16 7:42 AM, Eric Muehleisen
  wrote:


  For those that have used Unifi extensively, I have
a couple questions that I can't quite find on the forums.


1. If the controller goes offline, does that have an effect
  on the AP's is serving? Or do they continue to operate
  normally?


2a. Will upgrading the controller cause an outage to the
  AP's?


2b. Will it help if I disable "automatic upgrade" and
  upgrade the AP's during a maint. window after the controller
  has been upgrade?


Thanks!
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] IBM g8124 locked optics

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
FWIW, we generally order our vendor-coded optics from Pro Labs.
They'll send a sample if they don't already have a tested/confirmed
optic for some device. I've had great success on IBM Networking
Blade Switches (old BNT).


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/14/16 7:46 AM, Joe Novak wrote:


  I can't help but think there should be a way to
turn off the vendor lock considering it's a rebranded juniper
switch.. I could not find it. Do you have any fiberstore cisco
coded optics? People reported success with legit optics from
juniper/cisco/brocade according to servethehome.com forums.
  
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:28 AM, TJ
  Trout <t...@voltbb.com>
  wrote:
  
Anyone have experience with sfp compatibility?

I just stupidly ordered a bunch of transceivers
  from fiberstore before doing research and now I'm seeing
  that some models are vendor locked 
  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question

[jesse . dupont]

Sell them Deskview and they can do two things on that server, and maybe 
Lantastic.





On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:34 PM -0600, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
 wrote:










whoa! now!! lets not go getting crazy here
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:






Hmmyou could put a pentium overdrive chip in that socket.  I'm gonna sell 
them an upgrade.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 9/13/2016 2:25:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question
 


That website is top of the line, hosted on nothing but the best 486dx4 
architecture and maximized performance of the full 4mb edo ram, this thing is 
busting with the hottest new DOS 6.0 operating system. For security all info 
submitted is written immediately to a 5 1/4 floppy diskette which is 
immediately airgapped to one of the equally robust servers in the data center 
of the janitors garage


On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 6:36 PM,  wrote:



That would be extremely cool if i can.  Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup  wrote:



I just did a Part 90 land/mobile on the stupid java app a couple weeks ago. 
Total pain in the ass. Had to find java 7 and force it to install, then get rid 
of the stupid update nag every 5 minutes.

I had to close it a couple times due to crashes and I was able to pick up where 
I left off. So I think you'll be fine.


On 9/12/2016 5:46 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


I started a license application on the FCC site, but I have to prepare some 
attachments which are going to take awhile to finish.  I didn't know what all 
the required attachments were going to be until I got most of the way through 
the application.
 
If I just leave the browser window open, how long do I have until this times 
out and I have to start over?  
 
If it does time out, and I come back to the application later with the same FRN 
number, will I be able to pick up where I left off?
 
It wouldn't be the end of the world to start over, but I'm curious.
 
-Adam
 




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Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
The Nagios script does the same (although the fact that Josh made is
is geeking me out - I have to rely on stuff someone else made). The
Nagios agent on the BIND9 runs rndc-stats, which updates the stats
file with new data. The agent then reads and parses the stats file,
sends the new data back to the Nagios server via an encrypted
channel and the data gets written to the RRD. Rinse, repeat.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/12/16 11:04 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  that
  
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh
  Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  
Are you talking about something like this?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  You need to figure out how to get the data *out* of
BIND.  Newer versions expose a statistics channel via
XML that you can use to get data like this.  For the
graph above, my NMS (Zenoss 4) SSH's into each DNS
server and executes a little custom script that I wrote
which returns Nagios-ish style data:
  
  
  
OK|success=1022736319 referral=339 nxrrset=93439175
  nxdomain=163271953 recursion=373732835
  failure=18408551 duplicate=13564673 dropped=0
  numzones=143 recursiveclients=2 rtt10=278
  rtt10_100=430614909 rtt100_500=52986868
  rtt500_800=75607 rtt1600=989
  
  
  
  Zenoss then uses this data to produce the graph that
I pasted above.


  

  On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:43
AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  Im using DNSTOP to monitor real
time activity on these servers I made live
(interesting to see just how perverse some of
our customers are) but is there a good tool for
monitoring visually statistics, queries, cache,
errors, etc that doesnt involve building yet
another server to monitor these?


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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF Route Summarization

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
To summarize your PPPoE pools, the prefix for it needs to be in
another area. Depending on your RouterOS version, it will
automatically create the blackhole route for the area-range. It's
not too difficult, I can send you config samples if you need. No
filters needed with area-range and separate area.

You can do the same thing to aggregating part of a hierarchy. So
long as the contiguous prefixes are all downstream from a single
router, you can put that "leg" of the network into a different area
and summarize it using the area-range.

**Queue Bruce about using iBGP for this** (which I support) :)


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/9/16 4:15 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Mainly the pppoe, but I'd also like to clean up the
  routing table a bit by summarizing subnets that are contiguous.
  Maybe I'm over complicating it with that last part.
  
On Friday, September 9, 2016, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:

  

  
What are you trying to accomplish?  I’ve never
  liked summary routes, seems like too much potential
  for error (or maybe too complex for my simple brain). 
  If you’re trying to avoid propagating a bunch of /32
  routes (like with a PPPoE pool), you can blackhole the
  subnet to create the summary route and then add a
  route filter to drop /32 prefixes.

  
 

  From: Jason McKemie 
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:16
PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF Route
Summarization

  
   

Is
  the only way to do this by adding another area?
  Recommendations? 
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] IOS 10 VPN Mikrotik

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I use the following config on a MikroTik (Router OS v6.27) for
L2TP/IPSec tunnels with my Mac, Windows 8/10, Android and iPhone.
This config allows connection from any IP, requires a user/pass
along with the IPsec key and gives out a v4 and v6 address to the
connecting client:

/ip ipsec proposal
set [ find default=yes ]
  enc-algorithms=3des,aes-128-cbc,aes-256-cbc
/ip ipsec peer
add enc-algorithm=3des,aes-128,aes-256
  exchange-mode=main-l2tp generate-policy=port-override secret=\
    abcdefgh
/ip ipsec policy
set 0 dst-address=0.0.0.0/0 src-address=0.0.0.0/0

/interface l2tp-server server
set authentication=mschap2 default-profile=""
  enabled=yes

/ip pool
add name=pptp-pool ranges=x.x.x.x/26

/ipv6 pool
add name=pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1
  prefix=:::::/56 prefix-length=64

/ppp profile
add change-tcp-mss=yes dhcpv6-pd-pool=pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1
  dns-server=y.y.y.y,z.z.z.z \
    local-address=x.x.x.x name=l2tp-vpn
  remote-address=pptp-pool remote-ipv6-prefix-pool=\
    pppoe-ipv6-pd-pool1


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/7/16 7:02 PM, SmarterBroadband
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
We currently use PPTP VPN on our office
  Mikrotik router for staff to login to our network remotely
  (from PC, MAC, Android and iPhones).  I read that IOS 10 and
  MAC OS Sierra will not have PPTP due to security issues.
 
I am told other VPN protocols on Mikrotik
  don’t work well in 6.x?  Is this right?  Anyone using them?
 
What else are people using for VPN access?
 
Thanks
 
Adam  
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] DNS separation

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
We do it exactly as George said.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 9/6/16 1:47 PM, George Skorup wrote:


  
  I have three machines on the network. Master at the NOC and two
  slaves at towers. They handle our domains, PTRs, etc. As well as
  DNS for customers. Recursion is locked down to our address blocks
  only. I also have an anycast address shared between all three. The
  infrastructure devices use that for lookups.
  
  Use BIND views to separate things if you're paranoid.
  
  On 9/6/2016 2:26 PM, Josh Baird
wrote:
  
  
I wouldn't be overly concerned about your
  recursive boxes being authoritative for your internal (only)
  zones.  You already have mechanisms in place to prevent
  external clients from using them for recursive services.

  On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, That
One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  Im putting our recursive sservers up for
our network to use, theyre access limited by ACL and
external router firewall policies to our networks only


There will be four total servers NS1 and NS2 are
  our current authoritative only servers, they are
  public facingfor our domains and our ARIN allocation


I read many conflicting best practices, so ...


NS3 and NS4 I am tempted to make slaves to NS1 (its
  the master for all zones) and put our RFC 1918 space
  on NS1, however this creates a security dilema in that
  a new bind vulnerability could expose our internal
  space structure, not that its a huge deal today, I
  would prefer to not have made a poor choice for ease
  today that causes a problem down the road.
Im tempted to delegate a subdomain (infrastructure.domain.com or
  whatever) to NS3 for rfc1918 record, but then that
  puts authoritative master zone records on a recursive
  server which all the best practices suggest avoiding.


I suppose i can put forwarders in for this up to
  NS1/2 on the recursive servers and use bind views to
  limit the internal zones




What is recommended in this scenario?


Also, with a set of recursive servers, is it
  possible to sync the cache between the two so I can
  load balance the servers (we wont likely ever have
  enough load from our network for it to ever be an
  issue)
  
  
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Re: [AFMUG] (OSPF + ibgp) / formerly Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
For me, it was a bit of an experiment, but I have ended up liking
it. Yes, it does add some overhead, but I didn't have to add routers
to be the route reflectors - I just chose two routers which provided
good geographic redundancy balanced with being as well-connected as
possible to the rest of the routers and checked the "route reflect
to peers" box. Route reflecting is really no more intensive than
just BGP peering; probably most already know this, but the only
different between a route reflector and a non-route reflector is
that at route reflector is allowed to break the iBGP rule of not
disseminating routes learned from one peer to another peer.

One of the things I really like about using BGP for access prefixes
is that I don't have to mess with filters or using non-backbone
areas and area-ranges to summarize pools used for things like PPPoE.
It's nice that more recent versions of MikroTik automate adding the
U route of a summarized area-range after the first connected route
shows up, but with BGP, I simply add the prefix to Networks and it's
done.

Another advantage, albeit a "band-aid" one is that if I'm having
some link quality issue that is ultimately causing OSPF to lose
adjacency (packet loss causing dropped Hello's, for example, or some
jackass carrier providing a circuit that upgrades their platform and
they don't read the release notes and multicast gets dropped...), I
can deploy a small handful of static routes to improve stability
slightly until I can resolve the issue (just a small time saver).

Obviously, none of this functionality REQUIRES the use of BGP and it
can all be done using OSPF. Indeed, while I'm using OSPF + iBGP in
my WISP, the telco I'm also the network architect/engineer at uses
only OSPF as the IGP and we have thousands of internal OSPF routes
and dozens of routers in the backbone area (along with others in
non-backbone areas) and it's extremely stable. I think its easy to
misinterpret problems which manifest themselves as OSPF issues, but
are really just OSPF reacting to some other condition; the canary in
the coal mine, if you will.

 If you're having issues with OSPF losing adjacencies or
changing from full to down or full to init, you've got some problem
with the link. Period. OSPF is not the problem. OSPF has been stable
in MikroTiks since 3.x.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/26/16 1:16 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
  wrote:


  
So just for the sake of a technical discussion... 


In your opinion, what is the merit of such a config (osfp +
  ibgp) ?


It can be argued that such a config, 
  a) Still depends on OSPF functioning.
  b) Layer an additional dynamic protocol on top of it
  (ibgp)
  c) Requires additional  Routers (route reflectors).


If the merit of such an approach is to manage manage OSFP
  behavior in a  more granular fashion,  Why not use the those
  features as they are available in  OSPF / Best Practices...
   (OSFP  best practices, suggest that, don't advertise
  connected or static routes, setup all interfaces as passive,
  and control prefix advertisements via the network section of
  OSPF).


OSPF also tends to be the most common denominator
  (protocol) across different mfg.  Bgp being the 2nd.


Regards


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  From: "Jesse DuPont"
<jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 12:03:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness
  


  Right, PTP and loopback prefixes are distributed with
OSPF (and possibly management subnets for radios) and
"access" network prefixes (customer-facing) are distributed
via iBGP.
I have two of my routers configured as BGP route reflectors
and all other routers peer with onl

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Right, PTP and loopback prefixes are distributed with OSPF (and
possibly management subnets for radios) and "access" network
prefixes (customer-facing) are distributed via iBGP.
I have two of my routers configured as BGP route reflectors and all
other routers peer with only these two; this solves the full mesh
and provides redundancy.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 8/25/16 8:40 PM, David Milholen
  wrote:


  
  He may have meant only have the ptp and loopback addresses
listed in networks
  
  
  
  On 8/25/2016 9:31 PM, Mike Hammett
wrote:
  
  

I've heard this concept a few times now.
  I'm not sure how only using OSPF for the loopbacks works.
  
  

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  Internet Exchange

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  From: "Bruce
Robertson" <br...@pooh.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:28:43 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of
many reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer,
dynamic pool, server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF
*only* to distribute router loopback addresses.� All your
weird OSPF problems will go away.� My apologies if I'm
misunderstanding the problem, but my point still stands.

On 08/25/2016 10:22 AM, Robert
  Haas wrote:


  
  
Alright, this problem has raised it
  head again on my network since I started to renumber
  some PPPoE pools.
Customer gets a new IP address via
  PPPoE x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer
  can�t surf and I can�t ping them from my office:
�
[office] � [Bernie Router] �
  [Braggcity Router] � [Ross Router] � [Hayti
  Router] � [customer]
�
A traceroute from my office dies @
  the Bernie router but I am not getting any type of
  ICMP response from the Bernie router ie no ICMP Host
  Unreachable/Dest unreachable etc � just blackholes
  after my office router.
A traceroute from the Customer to
  the office again dies at the Bernie router with no
  type of response.
�
Checking the routing table on the
  Bernie router shows a valid route pointing to the
  Braggcity router. It is also in the OSPF LSA�s.
--
Another customer gets x.x.x.207/32
  and has no issue at all.
�
--
Force the original customer to a
  new ip address of x.x.x.205/32 and the service starts
  working again.
�
--
�
Now � even though there is no
  valid route to x.x.x.208/32 in the routing table �
  traffic destined to the x.x.x.208/32 IP is still
  getting blackholed.. I should be getting a Destination
  host unreachable from the Bernie router.
�
This is correct the correct
  response .206 is not being used and there is no route
  to it:
C:\Users\netadmin>ping x.x.x.206
�
Pinging x.x.x.206 with 32 bytes of
  data:
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination
  host unreachable.
Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination
  host unreachable.
�
Ping statistics for x.x.x.206:
��� Packets: Sent = 2,
  Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
�
C:\Users\netadmin>tracert
  74.91.65.206
�
Tracing

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik OSPF weirdness

[jesse . dupont]

Regardless of the culprit, the cause of this will be a misconfiguration of some 
kind and likely not even with OSPF. OSPF is not weird, nor does it behave 
badly; it merely reacts to conditions based on a predetermined set of 
algorithms which are very well documented and implemented, especially for IPv4. 
OSPF builds a FIB and based on that FIB, it modifies the route table. Both of 
those are correct in this case.


All that said, I fully embrace the model you laid it and have been using it for 
some time. It makes perfect sense to me to use a non-link-state protocol to 
distribute prefixes that are not based on the state of a link.


Now, if we can just get Mikrotik to work out the next-hop recursive resolution 
issue so we can use BGP to distribute v6 prefixes...


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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:28 PM -0600, "Bruce Robertson"  wrote:











  

  
  
I've said it before, and been argued with... this is one of many
reasons why you use iBGP to distribute {customer, dynamic pool,
server subnets, anything} routes, and use OSPF *only* to distribute
router loopback addresses.� All your weird OSPF problems will go
away.� My apologies if I'm misunderstanding the problem, but my
point still stands.



On 08/25/2016 10:22 AM, Robert Haas
  wrote:



  
  
  
  


Alright, this problem has raised it head
  again on my network since I started to renumber some PPPoE
  pools.


Customer gets a new IP address via PPPoE
  x.x.x.208/32 (from x.x.x.192/27 pool). Customer can�t surf and
  I can�t ping them from my office:


�


[office] � [Bernie Router] � [Braggcity
  Router] � [Ross Router] � [Hayti Router] � [customer]


�


A traceroute from my office dies @ the
  Bernie router but I am not getting any type of ICMP response
  from the Bernie router ie no ICMP Host Unreachable/Dest
  unreachable etc � just blackholes after my office router.


A traceroute from the Customer to the
  office again dies at the Bernie router with no type of
  response.


�


Checking the routing table on the Bernie
  router shows a valid route pointing to the Braggcity router.
  It is also in the OSPF LSA�s.


--


Another customer gets x.x.x.207/32 and has
  no issue at all.


�


--


Force the original customer to a new ip
  address of x.x.x.205/32 and the service starts working again.


�


--


�


Now � even though there is no valid route
  to x.x.x.208/32 in the routing table � traffic destined to the
  x.x.x.208/32 IP is still getting blackholed.. I should be
  getting a Destination host unreachable from the Bernie router.


�


This is correct the correct response .206
  is not being used and there is no route to it:


C:\Users
etadmin>ping x.x.x.206


�


Pinging x.x.x.206 with 32 bytes of data:


Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.


Reply from y.y.y.1: Destination host
  unreachable.


�


Ping statistics for x.x.x.206:


��� Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost =
  0 (0% loss),


�


C:\Users
etadmin>tracert 74.91.65.206


�


Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.206.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.206]


over a maximum of 30 hops:


�


� 1���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 7 ms� z.z.z.z


� 2���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 6 ms�
  y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1]


� 3� y.bpsnetworks.com [y.y.y.1] �reports:
  Destination host unreachable.


�


Trace complete.


�


This is what I see to x.x.x.208 even though
  it is not being used and there is no route to it.


C:\Users
etadmin>ping x.x.x.208


�


Pinging x.x.x.208 with 32 bytes of data:


Request timed out.


Request timed out.


�


Ping statistics for x.x.x.208:


��� Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 0, Lost =
  2 (100% loss),


�


C:\Users
etadmin>tracert x.x.x.208


�


Tracing route to
  host-x.x.x.208.bpsnetworks.com [x.x.x.208]


over a maximum of 30 hops:


�


� 1���� 6 ms���� 6 ms���� 6 ms� z.z.z.z


� 2���� *������� *������� *���� 
Request
  timed out.


� 3���� *������� *���� ^C


�


--


�


I�ve verified there is no 

Re: [AFMUG] Traco competition for Mean Well RSD?

[jesse . dupont]

A lot of power substation control equipment is high voltage DC (100-300 VDC).


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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:14 PM -0600, "Adam Moffett"  
wrote:
















I think it's more like you have a 110 VDC power supply for the motors in your 
machine and you want to convert that to lower voltage for electronic controls.  
Variable input voltage is good because when the motors kick on you might see 
voltage jump around.
 
17 years ago I was a draftsman drawing wiring diagrams for process equipment.  
Pretty sure I've seen something like that.
 
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Eric Kuhnke" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 8/25/2016 3:08:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Traco competition for Mean Well RSD?
 


I don't think it is a misprint, I have seen other high-voltage input DC:DC 
converters (you can find some from Sager/Powergate), but they're much rarer 
than things which have a top-end input voltage maximum of around 76VDC...    
Really curious what sort of weird industrial applications are relatively low 
wattage at a couple hundred watts load for a device, and need that kind of 
input.



On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:





I wonder if that is a misprint. I know a lot of power supplies that actually 
"don't care" if the input is AC or DC. So inputting 120 VAC works more-or-less 
the same are 120VDC. Off-line switching power supplies were a great innovation.




bp



On 8/25/2016 11:35 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:


I know such things exist but have never encountered them in person, where would 
you have 140 or 150VDC power?





On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:



https://psui.com/product/teq-300wir/
https://psui.com/wp-content/uploads/products/Traco%20Power/DataSheets/teq300wir.pdf

Unfortunately the prices (even assuming a discount) look prohibitive.